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Final Fantasy VII Remake General Discussion Thread [Open Spoilers for Original FFVII ONLY please!]
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Yeah, even if I still prefer either the VIII/PE or the VII style, G-Bike has really nice art, quite like it. I really want to see Nomura's concept art for Remake (it's a shame that the artbook in the special edition is probably going to be short as hell :/).I don't like his Dissidia artwork that much either, but I do like his G-bike artwork (which actually is after Dissidia)
except Yuffie's art which I am not really a fan of.
It's a real shame G-bike died so early that we never got Aerith artwork.
On that note, I wonder if we'll ever get this as an optional outfit:
Yeah, even if I still prefer either the VIII/PE or the VII style, G-Bike has really nice art, quite like it. I really want to see Nomura's concept art for Remake (it's a shame that the artbook in the special edition is probably going to be short as hell :/).
On that note, I wonder if we'll ever get this as an optional outfit:
I think that's the worst cloud design I've ever seen
He has the shittier Buster Sword and the typical Dissidia posture, so that makes it even worse (I do like the outfit but it doesn't fit Cloud at all and looks awkward).
Fantastic video. I didn't notice how much difference the opening shot was between State of Play trailer and E3 gameplay demo.
Do you guys think they've changed Aerith's face?
This was the original when she was first revealed.
She looks a lot more softer.
I preferred the earlier one though, Im getting bored of playing perfect looking heroes and the original Aeirth look something quite unique for Square.
This was the original when she was first revealed.
She looks a lot more softer.
I preferred the earlier one though, Im getting bored of playing perfect looking heroes and the original Aeirth look something quite unique for Square.
I have been in absolute awe of the animation every time I see the remake, but the one thing I'm wondering about is if Cloud's casting animation will make a return somehow. We've seen him cast spells in trailers already and he doesn't use his original battle animation to do so, he just puts 1 open palm out real quick. I'm thinking maybe he'll use the original animation for Summons.
EDIT: It kinda looks like he's farting out bubbles here, maybe I should have GIF'd a different spell, lmao.
EDIT: It kinda looks like he's farting out bubbles here, maybe I should have GIF'd a different spell, lmao.
SE changes face models like underwear. Even Advent Children cycles through a bunch of different models for Cloud's face within a single film.
I believe the former is in-engine (real-time) render while the latter is pre-rendered. That's why the latter looks softer.
Yeah correct. Just curios if they have shown the other characters. Want to see the new designs.
In engine vs. prerender. 👍
We talking about the same studio that used the same Chain of Memories Sora model for more than a decade? On other characters no less... 👀
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I remember thinking that was such a badass design when it came out... XD
The mummy wrappings on his sword... Just ridiculous
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I remember how conflicted i was about Kingdom Hearts when i was a kid (it came out when i was in Jr High), I thought Cloud looked bad ass, FF was my favorite franchise, but the instant i saw a disney character it was so jarring and took me out of it so much that i never bothered playing them.
Really glad i grew out of that.
Really glad i grew out of that.
Soras shoes are worse than that, but yeah also pretty bad looking back on it
In engine vs. prerender. 👍
We talking about the same studio that used the same Chain of Memories Sora model for more than a decade? On other characters no less... 👀
yeah the difference is quite huge for a month gap. I assume SoP trailer was made a while ago.
The CG part is small change like I mentioned, but other things are quite different as well that's why I said huge gap. The opening scene is the most noticeable one.
The environment, lighting, Cloud's sword not cliping through his arm anymore... For a month difference, it does feel quite huge imo.
SoP
E3
I wonder how old the build of the SoP trailer is, as that might be to much change for just a month as Xenosaga said.
If you noticed it, the Command Menu was activated with ⭕ and not ❌, even in some of the footage they showed this E3 IIRC.
A lot of UI elements are different from SoP to E3, like the text "mode" being added to Punisher/Operator, Character portraits added, and HP/MP/ATB text visible now (although I feel this was hidden intentionally for SoP trailer)
As for O/X buttons, it's going to be different from JP and West version so maybe they were thinking of keeping it the same, but decided to change it.
phewww that was fun to watch. Haven't seen his stuff before but he goes in.depth. man.
This is nuts. Also, man that sudden change to the huge fan in the reactor during the fight with the scorpion is already bothering me.
Not expecting much tbh. Maybe small new stuff in the same area we saw, but I don't expect anything major new. That is for either Gamescom or TGS I think. But considering Kitase himself will be on the stage, I could be wrong and they could show something new.
I wonder if they'll adjust how steal works in the game. The original formula for working out steal success was designed by a god damn insane person.
((((40+your level-enemy level)*512)/100)*item constant)/256 and then roll a 63 sided dice and it has to be over that
They've not used anything even CLOSE to this complicated before or since FF7 original
((((40+your level-enemy level)*512)/100)*item constant)/256 and then roll a 63 sided dice and it has to be over that
They've not used anything even CLOSE to this complicated before or since FF7 original
It's a weird numerical choice, but it's not complex, purely linear. 512*256/100 is just times a single constant, another constant to be able to control how hard an item is to steal, and a baseline 40 that goes up or down depending on level difference. It's honestly how I might code it, albeit I would probably use a 1000 sided die, not 63. Maybe weird limitations of random number gen at the time, I dunno.
A 1000 sided die? That seems a little harsh. Let's use an example from the wiki;
Cloud is lvl 50
Enemy is lvl 25
Item to steal is a Turbo Ether which has an Item Constant of 8
This puts the chance number to compare to the RNG number at 10, meaning there is a 17.2% chance of stealing
If you made the RNG number go to 1000, that would put the steal chance at 1.01%.
Seems like an unfairly low % for a common item on a much lower level enemy.
(shakes head) The 1000-sided die isn't "unfair". It's to give you fine-grained control over the chances of something dropping. With a 1000-sided die roll needing to be less than a number determined via a formula, you can have the drop percentage be any percentage to a tenth of a percentage point; i.e., a 9.7% chance of dropping, or a 78.3% chance of dropping. A 63-sided die means you only have 63 available "percentages" to assign...which is probably okay, in the end, it's just weird.
The formula (the numerical constants, specifically) would change, of course, when using a 1000-sided die versus a 63-sided die. I'm just saying the general technique isn't that strange.
Holy monkey! That Cloud looks GREAT! How come I've never seen this before? Now I need this outfit as an extra on the Remake.
Ok, yeah I understand using the 1000 sided to have accurate percentiles, I just assumed you were dropping the 1000 sided die into that particular formula.
so you're telling me that the "Dexterity" stat had nothing to do with your chances to steal an item .........
i need to sit down.
i need to sit down.
Yikes
Literally stop copying me https://www.resetera.com/threads/fi...ion-thread-open-spoilers.117768/post-21907952I have been in absolute awe of the animation every time I see the remake, but the one thing I'm wondering about is if Cloud's casting animation will make a return somehow. We've seen him cast spells in trailers already and he doesn't use his original battle animation to do so, he just puts 1 open palm out real quick. I'm thinking maybe he'll use the original animation for Summons.
EDIT: It kinda looks like he's farting out bubbles here, maybe I should have GIF'd a different spell, lmao.
I tihnk it's just relevant for ATB speed and evasion
I see it. I feel pretty good about the guess on Summons, though.Possibly fixed
Man, this picture gets me hyped for some reason. I want the game to start. I want to do the things.
7 months to go....
It was one of the most hype videogame opening for me. Was shocked when I played back then.
IIRC it was 19:00 Hong Kong time.
Anyone knows what time it starts tomorrow?
I honestly expect little new if anything at all, but will definitely check it out (not live tho, I can't).
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