That dress thing was literally because some people's eyeballs basically had a real life glitch (like mine)
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Final Fantasy VII Remake: Some fans are mad because Barret "looks white"
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Why he look like Malcolm Jamal Warner? LolYou're not a fan if you think he looks white? Crazy
Compare this
to the newest trailer and he looks a lot lighter to the point where I'd make a case but I think the worst part is the beard
I'm so confused.
What the fuck is "non-con multi-play"? It sounds videogamey. Like no controller multiplayer.
Things like this make me wonder what the reaction to Cloud beating the ever living shit out of Aerith is going to be.
And people wonder why companies like Nintendo try to circumvent anything political for as long as possible (unfortunately including identity politics and representation). They might just not be as familiar with what an accurate representation would be. All i see that is off though is the hair?
Barret along with every other representation is spot on to me
Barret along with every other representation is spot on to me
he literally doesnt look white at all...i will say that erasure of lighter skin tone black people is a huge problem even if he was lighter tone
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He's not going to beat up Aerith. Even the random NPC that was beating up the captured Celes in FFVI was removed as early as FFVI Advance.
Don't forget the whole cross dressing part. You know there will be someone complaining about how they handled that. It's a lose lose situation.
At this point I have to wonder if Square is wondering if this game will be worth all the trouble.
Or black people that don't have natural curly hair because some are of course also complaining about that.
I didn't know that. Did that change was kept for the subsequent mobile and PC releases?
I genuinely think financially it will do solidly for the company even if a moderate hit and it's of good quality overall
Episode 1 (Full price, PS4, PC, XB1, standard and limited editions, PS5 and XB2 souped up versions likely at full price)
Episode 2 (Full price, PS4, PC, XB1, standard and limited editions, PS5 and XB2 souped up versions likely at full price)
Episode 3 maybe? (Full price, PS4, PC, XB1, standard and limited editions, PS5 and XB2 souped up versions likely at full price)
FFVII Remake Complete editions (PC, PS5, XB2, standard and collectors editions
However more than any other Dev team that I can remember, they really have my sympathy - the scrutiny they are going to come under even for the slightest nuance or contextual change or non change is going to be fucking insane
Barret hair is acurate to his old model. Its pushed up, militair style. Just has a more modern look now. Complain moar at 11.
Want to complain about his "white voice"? Blame the black voice actor that is voicing Barret. (I actually think his voice is fine as well)
Want to complain about his "white voice"? Blame the black voice actor that is voicing Barret. (I actually think his voice is fine as well)
"He doesn't look what I think a black man must look like ergo he's just some guy with a tan".
And I assume by "biker guy" you were saying a white biker guy, weren't you?
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I'm not sure actually! The FF Wiki only says that it was because the original FFVI came out before the CERO rating system (the Japanese equivalent of ESRB) was created.
Bullshit. They did redesign his face but that wasn't a race change, jfc.
Yup. The skin is a super non-issue. Kinda unnecessary debate, and was already hashed out in the trailer thread, so I don't see a point beyond "get annoyed at internet outrage".
Shit's gonna happen with everything they reveal from this game.
He probably meant "tanned biker guy" who happens to not have black facial features and curly hair.
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They said it was because they modeled the characters in Kingsglaive after real actors (their motion capture actors), so they redesigned his game version for consistency.
http://www.novacrystallis.com/2016/...ff-talk-kingsglaive-music-collectors-edition/
??? He looks identical, just different lightingYou're not a fan if you think he looks white? Crazy
Compare this
to the newest trailer and he looks a lot lighter to the point where I'd make a case but I think the worst part is the beard
Non-Consentual Mutilation-Play. I don't think he's quite into that!
Anyway, back on topic, I feel like this is a little overblown, but this is also people on twitter making skin tone judgments based on inconsistent lighting, so I feel discussion on this angle might not be fully warranted.
I do appreciate, however, discussion on how his design was realized in this new engine, and I feel like they sorta toned down the exaggerated features in a good way. I look forward to using him in the game, and I hope we can get better renders to check out. Some design stuff with him definitely deserves inspection, like him having a straight fade.
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I find it strange that some people can't see that new Barrett (based on what little they have shown) has some Caucasian-ish (not necessarily white) facial features when compared to the original model. That seems a little "one drop rule" like to me to not notice the difference at all.
I'm not someone outraged by this as I don't have much interest in the remake but it's a notable difference in design. I think a lot of characters in Japanese-made artwork end up looking mixed race for some reason and this is one of those cases.
I'm not someone outraged by this as I don't have much interest in the remake but it's a notable difference in design. I think a lot of characters in Japanese-made artwork end up looking mixed race for some reason and this is one of those cases.
If Barret looks white then I'm just a ghost I guess.
It's just a matter of different lightning.
It's just a matter of different lightning.
I dunno, he went from Yakuza boss to generic European king.
So non-con multi-play means penis mutilation? I don't keep with the lingos of today.
It just looks like lighting to me. But Barret is pretty fucking dark skin so when more scenes come out we'll have to see if he retains the same complextion
eh, problem is don corneo always struck me as the sort of dude who'd respond to the idea of a foursome with "great! lemme get the handcuffs"
That's my take too. He's lighter than his original model, but he's definitely still a person of color. Heck, he's darker than me.
If only there were black game devs to show their colleagues how to render black hair properly 🤔🤔🤔
As somebody who is a mixed race black person with lighter skin, I'm actually interested in a distinct "mixed" vibe, even if it's just because of the art style. But there's no harm in pointing it out or saying you expected something different. Agreed, it is strange when people want to say "I see no difference", but they really just mean that they like the look, which is okay. Don't need to say things like "oh its white people trying to be woke on black people's behalf"... that really is a 'bad look'.
Using a relaxer is a thing though, I don't think it's entirely too far fetched.
He looks lighte skinned but I think it is ridiculous to claim he looks white skinned. I also think this is a clickbait topic...