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What should happen to Aerith in the FFVIIR saga?

  • She should die, it's her destiny

    Votes: 395 57.7%
  • She should live, fuck destiny

    Votes: 289 42.3%

  • Total voters
    684
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Oct 25, 2017
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snausages

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Feb 12, 2018
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I'm not exactly in love with what I'm seeing in some of these streams. I wish the combat focused more on larger mobs that the player has to handle. When the big HP enemies enter the mix, the health bar just bleeds way too slowly. It's also odd to see Cloud beating the hell out of
Rude's
legs while he just stands there and takes it. As if it's normal for a human character to get sledgehammered over and over without physically reacting. I think the character models look amazing, though.
Whatever about hit reaction I would strongly suggest not taking away much from the combat in these streams. If the health bar bleeds slowly that just sounds like bad usage of ATB (not exploiting weaknesses, building up ATB and stagger fast and dumping ATB attacks to generate stagger/hit huge HP chunks off during stagger/building up limit breaks)

Even in the demo this was the different between a 4 minute fight against scorpion and a borderline 15 minute one with tons of ATB wasted on healing
 

MonadL

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Oct 25, 2017
4,888
It happened with the demo too. The first few days on that thread were largely negative. The negative voices tend to start louder than the positive ones. Which is totally fine! Promotes discussion. We'll see if it turns around on release the same way the Demo thread did
I'm legit not even taking a lot of the feedback here seriously. People were shitting on the demo left and right yet I thought it was incredible. Only feedback I'm looking for now is how long the game is and if there any glaring design or technical issues that haven't been brought up. All of the negative feedback I'm seeing so far is just from people pissed this isn't a 1:1 remake or feel the game shouldn't even exist.
 

Crossing Eden

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Oct 26, 2017
53,304
You'd be wrong, but hey. That's an opinion too.
It's one of those things where it's hard to defend and explain how it succeeds. That game's writing was aggressively bad, with quite literally every character being introduced to us at their worst and an expectation that the audience would be inherently invested in this incredibly convoluted lore system that they came up with. Relying on flashbacks to get us invested. With very little time for respite to get us connected. A shame because that game has really distinct character designs, especially Fang and Lightning.
 
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jaymzi

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Jul 22, 2019
6,540
........you know when it comes to JRPGs i'm so used to the entire cast being awkward teenagers where everything romance related is "will they/won't they."
So this was a big bruh moment.
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The expanded Midgar portion seems really well done but good lord the sexual tension.
Straight out of the book of harem anime tropes.

Member of the main character's harem jumping all over him while he shrugs it off.
 

RROCKMAN

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
10,822
Straight out of the book of harem anime tropes.

Member of the main character's harem jumping all over him while he shrugs it off.

Oh damn this game is going to make people SALT


Interesting, where was her name originally revealed?

Art Books and external material, like the Ultimania Books

Actually really hoping they used her original design with the spiky bangs rather than the generic mom look she had in crisis core
 

Pavemaniac

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Sep 10, 2019
194
Wish I could have taken a snapshot for ya. Guess you'll see her soon enough yourself. I'm glad they kept her flashback in rather than replace it with another Sephiroth taunt scene.
 

Bit_Reactor

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Apr 9, 2019
4,413
Apparently a mod can come in and tell everyone to be civil but when people shit on people with any negative feedback that's okay...? Neat. Apparently if you're passive aggressive it's okay but you can't be straight forwardly aggressive. Good to know for future reference.
 

Quinton

Specialist at TheGamer / Reviewer at RPG Site
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Oct 25, 2017
17,256
Midgar, With Love
Apparently a mod can come in and tell everyone to be civil but when people shit on people with any negative feedback that's okay...? Neat. Apparently if you're passive aggressive it's okay but you can't be straight forwardly aggressive. Good to know for future reference.

There are only so many of us and near as I can tell I'm the main one watching over this thread. Mods are fans too and many of us aren't going to want to be spoiled. I just woke up like 15 minutes ago, too, so y'know — time is linear and so am I.

Feel free to reach out to me with any outstanding grievances. In the meantime, I'll go ahead and catch up on what I've missed.
 

Crossing Eden

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Oct 26, 2017
53,304
I wonder if Square feels like it'd be worth it to invest in the sort of convo system you see in western RPGs like Witcher, AC, and Horizon. Feel like if done well that would provide better results than what they usually do outside of key scenes.
 

Bit_Reactor

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Apr 9, 2019
4,413
I wonder if Square feels like it'd be worth it to invest in the sort of convo system you see in western RPGs like Witcher, AC, and Horizon. Feel like if done well that would provide better results than what they usually do outside of key scenes.
I keep hoping FFXVI does something like that, or at least channels FFXIV's options where you can at least direct a convo a bit more. IT makes sense for this version of a classic game to be mostly "at" you instead of "with you" in terms of gameplay at least though.
 

Quinton

Specialist at TheGamer / Reviewer at RPG Site
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Oct 25, 2017
17,256
Midgar, With Love
I wonder if Square feels like it'd be worth it to invest in the sort of convo system you see in western RPGs like Witcher, AC, and Horizon. Feel like if done well that would provide better results than what they usually do outside of key scenes.

I've given this some thought before as well and I think it would be grand. Would certainly help matters.
 

Lobster Roll

signature-less, now and forever
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Sep 24, 2019
34,324
Wow, streams are really getting banned everywhere for showing game content. Ok then.
 

Crossing Eden

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Oct 26, 2017
53,304
Also refreshing to see
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FFXV made no sense, you had a bunch of dudes in their twenties on a road trip, with those personalities, and not a single one of them had a drink.
 

Makodaioh2167

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Mar 30, 2020
78
"Strife" may be the last name belonging to Cloud's father.

And I always found Cloud's Mom being named "Claudia" to be adorable as fuck.

Cloud is one of the few FF mains that actually has a mother lol
 

Euler007

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Jan 10, 2018
5,041
Could someone give me some insights on the psychology behind people actively hunting down and reporting streamers? I understand staying away from spoilers, but being angry at people spoiling and others consuming it? Don't get it.
 

Crossing Eden

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Oct 26, 2017
53,304
Could someone give me some insights on the psychology behind people actively hunting down and reporting streamers? I understand staying away from spoilers, but being angry at people spoiling and others consuming it? Don't get it.
You remember that one Era member who had a twitter account that was a parody of fanboys that uploaded a fake video of them reacting to the news that Horizon Zero Dawn was going to PC. It's that level of irrational dedication to a company, but unironically.
 

Makodaioh2167

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Mar 30, 2020
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Could someone give me some insights on the psychology behind people actively hunting down and reporting streamers? I understand staying away from spoilers, but being angry at people spoiling and others consuming it? Don't get it.

Emotional investment to the point of frenzy.

I mean, I personally think prematurely looking at streams to form an opinion without actively experiencing said story is how you get things backwards.

But, snitching like that just seems stupid. But it is what it is.
 

Lobster Roll

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Sep 24, 2019
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So here's my issue with these companies going full lockdown on streams. I understand and respect the desire to make sure that nobody is spoiled when it comes to the surprises and fun moments within your upcoming game. The issue I have is that the people (like me) that would go to watch these streams clearly do NOT give a damn about being spoiled. We are actively seeking out the spoilers. No single person on this planet who is avoiding spoilers would ever visit a FF7R stream to check it out. Dang, just let those of us who are interested in the product that you've released to the wild consume a stream for it if we want to do so.
 

Crossing Eden

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Oct 26, 2017
53,304
So here's my issue with these companies going full lockdown on streams. I understand and respect the desire to make sure that nobody is spoiled when it comes to the surprises and fun moments within your upcoming game. The issue I have is that the people (like me) that would go to watch these streams clearly do NOT give a damn about being spoiled. We are actively seeking out the spoilers. No single person on this planet who is avoiding spoilers would ever visit a FF7R stream to check it out. Dang, just let those of us who are interested in the product that you've released to the wild consume a stream for it if we want to do so.
Exactly like i'm buying this game anyway. I'm down to watch the first couple chapters before signing off and waiting til release.
 

Euler007

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Jan 10, 2018
5,041
There's one post per page asking about game length and 3 answers per page saying we don't know yet. Just go back a few pages. I'm sure as soon as someone finishes it we'll get the info.
 

werezompire

Zeboyd Games
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Oct 26, 2017
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There's one post per page asking about game length and 3 answers per page saying we don't know yet. Just go back a few pages. I'm sure as soon as someone finishes it we'll get the info.

And there were dozens of posts asking about what's new about Persona 5 Royal in the P5R thread despite the fact that the game's been out for quite some time in Japan AND people were answering the questions every few posts. I read through the current page and didn't see anyone talking about length.

If it bothers you, ask the OP to add that information to the OP.
 
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