And visuals? and animations? and scale? Why does it have an 80+ opencritic score if its terrible in every way?
Era is extremely bad at not understanding the difference between "I don't like this thing" and "This thing is bad".
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And visuals? and animations? and scale? Why does it have an 80+ opencritic score if its terrible in every way?
Era is extremely bad at not understanding the difference between "I don't like this thing" and "This thing is bad".
FFX may have had it's issues and outlandish character designs, but it's soundtrack kicked ass!
Yeah, I was thinking about replaying it yesterday. I need to get the missable summons dammit.
Have no idea. He looks anime as fuck to me lol
I think they looked a bit boring. In general, I wasn't particularily fond of the whole FF8 artstyle to be honest.
Increasingly gaudy. 8's designs were fine (except Rinoa - her design is hideous - why is she wearing biker shorts and have 80s leggings on her arms?), but each game Nomura designed for got more and more baroque until again the turd that's 15. People are acting like I just made up the zippers and buckles meme.
Your point is still wrong since FF games always had gaudy designs .
You just did not notice that much because of the 2d and lack of detail.
If anything FF went back to there old ways after 7, 8 , 9 .
You're missing the point. In those game you weren't assaulted with embarrassingly awful looking characters at every moment. They also fit into their worlds. Nomura's look like he's trying to hard to be a fashion designer.
Fit into there world because there 2D .
Cause if those games were 3D and having more detail characters with 5 sets of beads would look hell out of place .
yeah honestly it's a bit too early to judge because we don't have solid info or much footage... but I feel the combat won't be as "action-y" as many might think.
Like you said, there seems to be no real positional/movement importance like normal action game. The way this regular attack moves through the field and attack feels way more automated than typical action combat..
Also, blocking an attack still does chunk of damage, which makes me feel that the game is designed on the idea that you are suppose to take damage during combat.
I feel it's going to be a bit more action oriented than combats like FFXII/Xenoblade, but less action than full-on action RPG combat like FFXV/KH3
Gotta take damage to build limit. Personally, I cant see the battle system as anything other than a modern take on the old system. FF7 was NEVER turn based, regardless of what people mistakenly think. With the blue bars being (I think) ATB gauges, it's just like the old system except now regular attack is a filler as opposed to something you need to wait for. You still need to wait for command attacks and magic, and no doubt these attacks will do more damage than a regular attack to make them worth waiting for and using. You see Cloud in the trailer using some flip attack which costs him one blue bar and does 618 damage as opposed to the 30 that his regular attack does.yeah honestly it's a bit too early to judge because we don't have solid info or much footage... but I feel the combat won't be as "action-y" as many might think.
Like you said, there seems to be no real positional/movement importance like normal action game. The way this regular attack moves through the field and attack feels way more automated than typical action combat..
Also, blocking an attack still does chunk of damage, which makes me feel that the game is designed on the idea that you are suppose to take damage during combat.
I feel it's going to be a bit more action oriented than combats like FFXII/Xenoblade, but less action than full-on action RPG combat like FFXV/KH3
That's what happens when IT ACTUALLY EXISTS NOW!
WE LIVE IN A WORLD WHERE IT EXISTS AGAIN!
yeah they actually called it ATB bar, at least until 2017 build.
In 2015 build it seemed like your regular attacks fill up your ATB bar, which you can use it for strong attack like in the trailer.
That would be a good way of doing it, solves the issue of people who would inevitably just hold block and wait for the timer to fillyeah they actually called it ATB bar, at least until 2017 build.
In 2015 build it seemed like your regular attacks fill up your ATB bar, which you can use it for strong attack like in the trailer.
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFVIIRemake/comments/boft85/a_collection_of_every_interview/
Here's a collection of every interview regarding FFVIIR. Starting with the latest, down to the first.
There's some really juicy bits here. Some choice quotes:
Here's a collection of every interview regarding FFVIIR. Starting with the latest, down to the first.
There's some really juicy bits here. Some choice quotes:
OG FFVII is pretty far from perfect, especially when it comes to gameplay. And this remake is more than just fancier graphics. The devs themselves have said that they weren't interested in remaking FFVII if it just meant the same game with prettier graphics. This is a thorough modernization of FFVII and that is hella ambitious.
And not all action RPGs are FFXV. You have absolutely no idea of the quality of the gameplay/combat system of this remake. Even if it arguably similar looking, that does not count for stuff like responsiveness and smaller details of how you control the combat that can have a big effect on how fun/satisfying more action-y combat is.
I immediately thought of Lighting Returns when you said those things but faster pace. I feel FFXII/Xenoblade may be a bit too slow for FFVIIR but I get what you're saying.
I agree, but I think with this series, I preferred that. For a fantasy JRPG series called "Final Fantasy" taking place in fantasy worlds with monsters and god-like beings, and magical abilities and shit, Amano's art fit what Square was going for in those early games. FFVII, I loved the more gritty look of the character designs. Lots of rust (rust on Barret's gun arm, rust on the Buster Sword, and such on). I thought FFVIII was too casual and clean. It's strange, though, and maybe just having to do with my taste. While I feel FFXIII is the weakest entry in the series, I actually don't hate the character designs. To me, they are probably the best thing about that game (only talking about FFXIII prime, sequels need not apply). FFXV, which has the main bros dressed up in designer duds, I actually don't mind either. For some reason, FFVIII's character designs are my least favorite of the entire series. Hell, FFX, I think has some eyesore clothing choice, I still am more accepting (maybe because they at least feel unique to the world, somewhat familiar, yet somewhat "alien").
Thank you. I think it would look really cool, but I honestly think it might be quite tough to make. Even from several km up, having to make photorealistic Midgar, Junon, etc. that match what you see running around the city would be daunting. Could they just take the city environments and shrink them? But then how much memory might that take? I actually wonder if it might be easier to just do zones for the separate parts, and then add this map made partly out of the actual full environments for the combined PS5 release.
yeah honestly it's a bit too early to judge because we don't have solid info or much footage... but I feel the combat won't be as "action-y" as many might think.
Like you said, there seems to be no real positional/movement importance like normal action game. The way this regular attack moves through the field and attack feels way more automated than typical action combat..
Also, blocking an attack still does chunk of damage, which makes me feel that the game is designed on the idea that you are suppose to take damage during combat.
I feel it's going to be a bit more action oriented than combats like FFXII/Xenoblade, but less action than full-on action RPG combat like FFXV/KH3
Exactly. I feel like the pace has to be on the slower end compared to KH and Dissidia for what they want to accomplish anyway:
I remember the open world/sandbox quote and I was happy they didn't care much about that since it brings down the quality of the map design imo. Just focus on making meaningful locations.
yeah when I compared to FFXII/Xenoblade, it was more of how combat will be progressed. You won't have and zone transitions, and you will have free movement like FFXII/Xenoblade. The difference is that FFVIIR will be much faster paced, and you will have to press button each time for regular attack unlike Xenoblade where it does auto for you.
There will be elements of Lighting Returns as well of course. It's made by (formerly) BD1 so a lot of staff will overlap.
I wonder if blocking will have depth to it. Like, if you just press down the block button, you will always take x% of the full damage, but timing blocking well/perfectly would activate perfect block that negates all damage & maybe stun (some) enemies. That would be a decent balance between FFXV's "dodge everything by pressing down a button" that is made for casuals who suck at action gameplay but makes things too easy for anyone with some skill and more hardcore "if you suck at timing your blocks, be prepared to be mauled by the enemy" style defensive gameplay.yeah honestly it's a bit too early to judge because we don't have solid info or much footage... but I feel the combat won't be as "action-y" as many might think.
Like you said, there seems to be no real positional/movement importance like normal action game. The way this regular attack moves through the field and attack feels way more automated than typical action combat..
Also, blocking an attack still does chunk of damage, which makes me feel that the game is designed on the idea that you are suppose to take damage during combat.
I feel it's going to be a bit more action oriented than combats like FFXII/Xenoblade, but less action than full-on action RPG combat like FFXV/KH3
I am sure there will be some sort of "Just frame" block system like you say. If I remember correctly Lightning Returns had similar just-frame block where if you press it at the right time your block doesn't drain your ATB bar. For this I expect less damage or even no damage.
yeah honestly it's a bit too early to judge because we don't have solid info or much footage... but I feel the combat won't be as "action-y" as many might think.
Like you said, there seems to be no real positional/movement importance like normal action game. The way this regular attack moves through the field and attack feels way more automated than typical action combat..
Also, blocking an attack still does chunk of damage, which makes me feel that the game is designed on the idea that you are suppose to take damage during combat.
I feel it's going to be a bit more action oriented than combats like FFXII/Xenoblade, but less action than full-on action RPG combat like FFXV/KH3
This all sound very good!
Looking at it, I guess block/guard command is mapped to one of the buttons. Of course there probably won't be any sort of triangle button equivalent like in KH.
Personally I Can't wait to see Next Gen Gold saucer.
Speaking of which, I had a litte mindblowing showerthought about that place where I've only just realized that it is supposed to be based on Yggdrasil with the different realms on the end of each branch. I always wondered why it had such a weird shape lol. Sharing a world with other norse themes like Midgar, Odin, Gungnir, Nibelheim and Midgardsormr etc I'm surprised it took me literally 20 years to notice that.
Speaking of which, I had a litte mindblowing showerthought about that place where I've only just realized that it is supposed to be based on Yggdrasil with the different realms on the end of each branch. I always wondered why it had such a weird shape lol. Sharing a world with other norse themes like Midgar, Odin, Gungnir, Nibelheim and Midgardsormr etc I'm surprised it took me literally 20 years to notice that.
Hopefully so.
Also, another point I wanted to make in relation to your earlier post. I think the quick snippets of gameplay are too early to make any kind of assumption/speculation that positioning & movement during battles don't matter. Kingdom Hearts also has moves that close in on (locked on) enemies much like what is seen in FFVIIR's footage yet positioning & movement are very important to the combat (at least on higher difficulty levels). We'll need to see more to see if that's the direction they are going with. The characters do seem less agile so we won't necessarily be dodge rolling infinitely around the battlefields, but I imagine we can avoid enemy attacks by carefully moving around them and timing offensive & defensive play well.
Yeah I agree it's too early to make these assumptions. I just felt Cloud's movement and attacks felt more automated than anything I have seen in KH3 or FFXV.. It will also be curious to see how the general movement of the character is.
Hopefully we see a lot more footage and information next month to get proper idea on how the combat works.
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Thats actually a very comprehensive and sensible observation! Thank you! It really doesn't look like FFXV combat to me (thank god), your description makes sense with the footage we have seen and the combat loop ties to the original.
yeah 2015 build had defend as one of the command menu option, 2017 seemed to have removed it and 2019 is probably the same. I think it's better to have block mapped to a button rather than having to select it from the command menu..
Agree and it would be more tedious anyway. Since they are using KH2's UI system to some degree, you'd want to map other commands to it.
I just hope this game's combat is as versatile and varied like FFXV's. Else I'm really going to miss the aerial attacks, the flanking, blindsiding, real time weapon switching, group attacks and magic that does more then simply inflict damage.
Most of them translate pretty fine to a more action-y system as is (grand spells/stats/summons/skills) and ultimately there really aren't all that many materia in the game so I would think development time constraints shouldn't be too much of an issue. Not sure how well something like W-Summon fits in an action RPG but others seem fairly doable in one. If anything, I could see them adding some new materia rather than removing a lot, considering this is now multiple games.
What I'm wondering is how will moving around and attacking while going through a menu to select one of several spells, especially across three characters all in real time going to be intuitive? Its possible I'm sure, but I have a hard time imagining that being fluid.
Maybe something like a radial menu like Witcher 3?
I'd hope AI can handle some magic usage and a customizable quickmenu akin to KH for the controllable character will mostly work fine.
those all looked great. Hopefully it translated well to ingame.Posting the old arts from last year:
