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Final Fantasy VIII has sold over 9.6 million copies, third best selling FF game
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I never said there couldn't be, but read back through this thread and you'll see every excuse under the sun used to undermine VIII's success. Yes, VII was a big help and no one's denying that, but at some point people have to acknowledge that some of those 9 million copies were because people genuinely considered it a good game (this part isn't directed at you btw, just the thread in general).
This sounds more descriptive of XIII than anything else, not that XV is particularly noteworthy in respect to those things either.
The best three in the series sold the most. Well deserved.
I'm so tempted to buy the VIII remaster, but I just don't have time to play it now.
I still find these "because of 7" posts ironic lol.
Why was 7 successful again? Marketing, word of mouth, introduction to the series/genre for many...
And guess what, there's no doubt a good chunk of folks who fell off of 7 when it looked and played nothing like the cg commercials and didn't line up for 8 as a result. Otherwise, by your logic, VIII should be #1 if that was all it took. But it's almost like people's tastes as well as hype are factors...
Why was 7 successful again? Marketing, word of mouth, introduction to the series/genre for many...
And guess what, there's no doubt a good chunk of folks who fell off of 7 when it looked and played nothing like the cg commercials and didn't line up for 8 as a result. Otherwise, by your logic, VIII should be #1 if that was all it took. But it's almost like people's tastes as well as hype are factors...
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That, and the emphasis on fantasy over Sci-Fi, is what turned me off from IX. In fact, I probably wouldn't have played it if I hadn't gotten it as a gift. It just didn't draw me in like VIII did, and it took me a long time to crawl IX through. It was the opposite with VIII, where I just couldn't stop playing it. It's also the only game in the series, that I've played through twice.
Personally speaking, the pre-release material of IX was enough to sway me from buying it. It felt like a step backwards, when VIII was a huge step forward. Luckily, X corrected the course, and was a day one buy for me, just like VIII was.
And the same doesn't apply to IX, or the older entries before VII?
Eeeeeeeh not such a hot take, people have been saying that since forever.
I wouldn't say shit, but they're not SO SO good, especially 7. 8 was and still is quite revolutionary in many gameplay aspects as far as rpgs go.
7 and 8 went full teenage angst, which i guess was really cool back then but it is unbearable today.
I'm gonna need some receipts on that. Last time I checked the game was a critical success, and the game is currently listed in the "top selling" games on Steam.
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"went full teenage angst" - Holy hyperbole!
What if you already played both as an adult?
In VIII case maybe, in VII I have to disagree. VII is not Advent Children and compilation shit, Cloud for example is a completely different (and better) character in the original game. And all the characters are adults except Yuffie who is like, 17 and she acts the part. VIII is another beast, but it's more edgy than teenage 90's angst I'd say. Squall saying whatever constantly doesn't help, that's for sure lol
It's an amazing game with a pretty weak last boss (she's hard as fuck if you don't know what you're doing) and weak story. It's the first LOST or Game of Thrones ending I have ever dealt with.
You're seeing it wrong. There is a reason Square doesn't announce several FFs at the same time anymore. And FFIX had to fight against Dragon Quest VII, and then FFX a year later. You had to call yourself Gran Turismo to have as much lasting power that late into the lifecycle
FFXII was released when Oblivion already came out. Come on now. The market wasn't the same anymore, and the Xbox 360 was killing it, try putting your PS2 disc in there.
And selling 6+ millions when the game came out and the market shrank is a very good outlook. FFXII Zodiac Age reached million seller status in three months on one platform.
JRPG mania was at hits night at that point, I really don't see that as that crazy of a fact. I just remember at that time all of the talk was about how much time you could get out of a 50 dollar game, and because Legend of Dragoon was spread over 4-discs that a lot of my fiends were even hyping that game. It wasn't a terrible game, but with so many other JRPGs out, especially coming from the square and Enix pedigree, it LoD just didn't stack up. People were hungry for games at that time. Especially people still in high school and college that wanted the most bang for their buck!
Some parts of FFVIII are completely broken, the story isn't always hitting its stride, but it's one of my favorite games from the series overall. Just really stuck a cord for me!
Some parts of FFVIII are completely broken, the story isn't always hitting its stride, but it's one of my favorite games from the series overall. Just really stuck a cord for me!
But FF8 is a critical success tho'. And the sales are great. And the preorders are apparently good, if we refer to Steam. It's strange for a "terrible" game that "no one talks about", don't you think ?
They have been doing it for years
Why are you appalled by this?
Are we really hating on ix in this thread? Smh.
Anyway, I'm not surprised by this, it's a good game. But I'm sure Squenix is considering how long they put off this remaster and try and forget this game happened for some reason. I'm glad sales are proving then wrong here.
Anyway, I'm not surprised by this, it's a good game. But I'm sure Squenix is considering how long they put off this remaster and try and forget this game happened for some reason. I'm glad sales are proving then wrong here.
Lmao @ FFXII. You take in what people post on the forums too much. FFIV, VI, VII, IX and X are what has been considered top 5.
I'm not even sure i already had a conversation with someone IRL about Final Fantasy XII lol. Definitively a forum board thing.
Bro, anyone I talked to always bring up those 5 games. Never FFXII. FFXII started getting this massive love when FFXIII and even more with TZA. Back in 2006? Lmao.
Tom Holland's Spiderman sells for a truckload more than Spiderverse but Spiderverse will always be more culturally significant. Sales isn't an indicator for shit when it comes to praise and how much they impact an industry.
FFXII is literally top 5 though, both in sales and rankings. Its remaster is still the highest rated single-player FF since the original FF12 came out.
The remaster was a million-seller in three months, which is a potentially faster turnaround than FFX/X-2 HD despite the latter selling on two platforms and being two games.
Your neighbour not knowing what FF12 isn't an indicator of anything.
Final Fantasy IV? Noooo. A few old timer journalists put it in their best of lists (as you'd expect because of their nostalgia) but otherwise IV rarely makes it into any kind of rankings.
Are you seriously denying the impact FF7 had on the JRPG markets? Are you seriously denying the fact that FF7 is what made JRPG a thing in the West?
People here are denying every quality FF8 has. That should surprise you more than what he said about FF7.
Well-deserved. And no, definitely not just because of FFVII. It's as stupid as saying Breath of the Wild is such as success because of Skyward Sword.
I wonder what the final sales figure of FFXV will be, given that it's probably close to 9 million at this point.
I wonder what the final sales figure of FFXV will be, given that it's probably close to 9 million at this point.
While I don't agree, that's bound to taste. Denying the impact FF7 had on gaming is not.
Sorry FF7 fans, I never played the original and finished VIII 3 times. Maybe VIII is just more appealing. I finished 9, it is a great game but it wasn't as interesting as VIII. Kuja was boring, limit break>>>trance.
Kitase's holy trifecta (FFVII, FFVIII, FFX, we can count FFVI too, which he co-directed with Ito) have always been the most popular entries in the series and they were all critically acclaimed, but as always forum echo chambers paint a different picture than reality. The vocal haters are always a minority, but they like to repeat ad infinitum how much they hate a game. Looking at Wazzy's FFVIII giveaway thread, It's all about people loving the game.
The problem with the FF fanbase is that some fans have extreme opinions about one or two entries, the fact is that every FF is something special, the only one we can call a disappointment was FFXIII.
Or it's the vocal few, who even after 20 years can't get over that others like what they don't.
Exactly.
Did FFIX really have to fight against DQVII, though? I have no reason to view it as having been relevant outside of Japan. The freshness of FFX could be argued as an actual problem for IX.
Was never under the impression that WRPGs becoming more prominent on consoles was an issue as early as Oblivion, either. Can concede that the market had already been changing even before the transition to the seventh gen, far different from the JRPG Golden Age that PS1 represented (in terms of both quality and output).