Final Fantasy XIV director still interested in a Switch, XB. Talks ongoing.
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Its sony fault but nobody can do nothing about it. They too blended with final fantasy at this point so Square dont care either.
How easy is it to get into an MMO with a lot of content anyway? Feel like I would be lost if I ever tried to get into FFXIV, especially if it hits Switch and Xbox.
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Wait so it's Nintendo's policy is the reason? I thought they were fine with cross platform multiplayer with Minecraft? Wonder what Nintendo told him...
In the sense that I can jump in and learn everything as I go, or will I need to read up a lot on classes, jobs, etcetera?
We already basically know that MS wouldn't let cross play happen for FFXIV and have pretty recently learned that now Sony acts the same way, so it's much more likely that it's not Nintendo.
FFXIV is pretty easy to jump in as a newcomer. It will slowly introduce all the systems to you.
Yeah you can start from the beginning and pick things up as you go
It's a bit overwhelming but the game does an ok enough job at introducing things to you throughout the main story or patch content as you progress. By the time you hit 50 and get through most of the 2.0 story you'll likely be well versed in the game's core systems like dungeons, fates, leves etc. After that you can take things at whatever pace you want, like you can learn a craft or gathering profession any time you want there's no rush to level one up. Same thing with playing other classes, but I would recommend getting 1 class to max level before focusing too much on another. You get a passive boost to xp for other jobs once you hit max level.
Its easy. You just level up and you learn most of the things in the process. Of course if you are new to genre you might want to check some guides for roles and at max level check guides for optimal rotations etc. You will of course miss all previous end game content (don't know if you can solo raids in FF14) but it's not big of a deal. It's a journey.
The game is absolutely single player friendly. If you stick to the main story quest, you will easily learn your class over time if you bother to actually read what your abilities do and how they interact with each other (so many people dont).
But yeah, actual mechanics and features are slowly introduced through everything and quests that unlock content is clearly marked.
If XIV comes to Switch (which is kinda of a cool idea) I feel it will just hold the game back, like the PS3 did and the PS2 did for FFXI. The whole "___ limitations!" meme while memey, is true in these cases. Where lower end consoles can hamper features and QoL improvements for everyone else.
Oh, awesome to hear especially if the game is single player friendly. Always wanted to put a lot of time in XI but never got the chance to, so I might try XIV when my backlog settles a bit. Thanks!
Theory, a game theory:
Nintendo is fine with cross-platform multiplayer, but what they aren't fine with is the idea of Final Fantasy XIV having communications like keyboard with just about anyone with no restrictions. Final Fantasy XIV is a newer title and Dragon Quest is old and is exclusive to the Japanese audience so they probably cared less about that. They might also want their own Nintendo brand server or something as well.
We've seen that Nintendo wants to have an app for Switch just to voice chat with others which can honestly be argued is another layer of protection for younger audiences since you communicate only with friends. None of this could be true, but with Minecraft being a thing this is the only thing I could think of as to why Nintendo is hesitant.
Nintendo is fine with cross-platform multiplayer, but what they aren't fine with is the idea of Final Fantasy XIV having communications like keyboard with just about anyone with no restrictions. Final Fantasy XIV is a newer title and Dragon Quest is old and is exclusive to the Japanese audience so they probably cared less about that. They might also want their own Nintendo brand server or something as well.
We've seen that Nintendo wants to have an app for Switch just to voice chat with others which can honestly be argued is another layer of protection for younger audiences since you communicate only with friends. None of this could be true, but with Minecraft being a thing this is the only thing I could think of as to why Nintendo is hesitant.
Nah, this one is on MS. It's kinda an edge case, but it's still on them.
Crossplay with Xbox requires giving Xbox players the option of only playing with other Xbox players. This then requires an Xbox only server, which Squeenix isn't doing, and so it doesn't get ported.
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Why do you think that Nintendo is hesitant about this at all? We all know the most likely culprit.
last i heard SE is ironically working on a voice chat phone app for FFXIV. There is no ingame voice. Most people in NA use discord
last time i checked it was MS policies that prevented ff14 on xbox.
I doubt that's the case. Didn't they drop PS3 support because of the very limited ram? The Switch shouldn't have issues handling that given PS3's ram size was very small as Switch's like 4GB.
Pretty sure last time it was MS' policies stopping it, but because of stuff like Rocket League people are assuming it's Sony now.
Also if Switch does happen I'm looking forward to 5 more years of Switch holding the game back memes.
Also if Switch does happen I'm looking forward to 5 more years of Switch holding the game back memes.
I can't see it being Nintendo's fault here, cause even the Switch Online app connects you to everyone in the room (at least, I think it does for Splatoon). It's not a "think of the children" scenario.
My best guess is that Microsoft wants an "Xbox Only" server, the option to disable play with other platforms (highly doubt this one as some games that are crossplay don't offer this setting), and/or want to require Gold for players to play XIV; none of which Square wants to comply with, and I can't blame them.
My question is, FFXI had no problems being on a Microsoft platform, what's the problem now?
EDIT: I do want to point out that I'm speculating here, too. Nintendo could have problems that they want sorted out that I'm not aware of, but with Minecraft and Rocket League (and other MMO titles on previous systems) I don't see why they would have any problems hosting XIV.
Switch may make me jump back into FFXIV.
The last two expansions were so boring that I can't handle it anymore.
The last two expansions were so boring that I can't handle it anymore.
Sony is not mentioned in his quotes at all but he makes specific mention of Xbox and Nintendo. This theory that Sony has control over Final Fantasy XIV is baseless. You don't even need a PSN subscription to play the game.
He also states "first parties", key word "parties" being more than one entity. If it were Sony's fault he would've said "party". In this case, Xbox and Nintendo make up "parties".
Probably really exasperating that it was Sony who was cool with going cross platform with PC, then when Microsoft opened up about going across all platforms Sony turned around and went “Hell no!”
Switch would definitely be nice. That plus mobile hotspot would mean FFXIV wherever you had a good signal.
Ah right. I suppose then yeah, the Switch would be better suited. To be honest I don't know how much RAM the Switch has and the RAM was the the main reason for dropping PS3.
I may be wrong about the reason why they dropped it. I could've sworn it was about RAM (Will try to dig deeper later) but yeah, for fwiw, PS3's RAM was like 256MB. I could imagine that was a huge issue for modern MMOs.
...Yes @ keyboard? Wii and Wii U supports keyboard too. And I find gamepad better than keyboard (outside of chatting obviously) in my personal experience on PC. I use the XB1 controller for FFXIV and it worked out completely fine.
FFXIV is super controller friendly. I play the PC version with a DS4 because I can. Even high end content is perfectly fine this way.
"I'm interested in other platforms, of course - I hope SONY changes their policies or mindset".
Fixed that for yah.
Yo for real fuck Sony. There honestly is no reason to believe Microsoft or Nintendo are against it. Come on yall.
Fixed that for yah.
Yo for real fuck Sony. There honestly is no reason to believe Microsoft or Nintendo are against it. Come on yall.
They'e been talking for years. It's never going to happen due to the arrogance and difference of policies of all parties. Microsoft won't abide due to their rivalry with Sony and their own pride towards their exclusive server bullshit. Vice versa for the exact same reason with Sony. And Nintendo won't abide automatically due to their ludicrously archaic online system that still uses friend codes, with a fucking mobile app being the only way to properly online game and voice chat.
It's just an endless road that leads to nothing.
It's just an endless road that leads to nothing.
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It will. A game's technical core is only as strong as its minimum hardware requirement/weakest link (unless they dedicate a significant amount of resources into scaling things down).
How is this Sony's fault when FFXIV has been having PS3-PS4/PC playing together since day one? Like explain how Sony is stopping Square from bringing this to Nintendo and Xbox...?
I didn't know sony was that evil
Selling my ps4 tomorrow they can't get away with this shit
Whilst that's true Sony still has limits on it. The PS4 version requires a separate subscription, and only the most expensive option is available on PS4.
I know this will hurt you but in the case of FFXIV it's actually Microsoft keeping it off the XBO. They require Xbox exclusive servers as part of the crossplay. People blaming Sony for something that isn't even on them is kind of funny.
This one isn't on Sony.
That is not also an issue that is the only issue. Sony isn't holding FFXIV back per SE directly. It's all on MS. Sony is being stupid about Crossplay but it's not all on them.
Presumably the same reason Rocket League can be XBO/Switch/PC or PS4/PC, but not all four. That said,
I believe this is also an issue.
Explain how Sony cares when the game doesn't require PSN to play online? They don't care at all lol.
Yeah, I played on PC exclusively with a controller as a tank (and eventually a healer and DPS), and had zero issues playing the toughest moments of the post game. The game works wonderfully with a controller.