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Final Fantasy XIV Shadowbringers introduces newest class: Dancer (Ranged DPS)
- Thread starter Seijuro
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Hell yes, this is the job I want to play. Started leveling BRD but maybe this is even a better option. Better in terms of fun to play.
I am also looking forward to fast queues for my healer jobs.
I am also looking forward to fast queues for my healer jobs.
well that dancer class doesn't unlock till level 60......so you will have to go through the first expansion which is a slog, especially post game and all of heavensward.
I mean, the expansion being more of a excuse to jump back in a gain. ;p
To be honest what's been announced so far for the expansion is weak. Only two new jobs, two unneeded races (imo) and little else. I guess the game is entering a final, slower phase in terms of content. Seams reasonable considering the MMO market has come to an almost complete halt and I guess fewer and fewer of us are returning.
For reference I quitted after beating the first Savage Raid of Stormblood, the one with Neo Exdeath.
For reference I quitted after beating the first Savage Raid of Stormblood, the one with Neo Exdeath.
It is support, just not a healer.
The game isn't ending or slowing down. Stormblood for example only had two new jobs and no new races. The new jobs and races we got here were highly requested by the players like Samurai and Red Mage two most requested before.
Dancer is the 10th DPS job, 11th if you include Blue Mage.
There are now:
4 tanks
3 healers
10(11?) damage dealers
It's a disaster. If the job selection in XIV were a three-legged table, it'd be laying on its side with shattered glass all over the floor.
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I think Yoshi-P back then said something like they are never gonna do three different classes at once again because it was hell to balance them.
As a healer main, I wanted something new to try. Maybe they're planning for some big changes in the 3 existing classes. I dunno.
I actually like it, ranged support are the least represented class of the game , especially with how underwhelming and clunky mch is (although i suppose you could say the same about whm, but still it's in a better place). Having a third is a good addition, the only downside is that healers need to pray they actually tried to fix things for shadowbringer and make the class more distinct, any combination viable instead of the clearly superior sch/ast.
I'm expecting them to add Beastmaster as a limited job during the second half of the patch cycle.
Here's to hoping they really throw a bone to healer mains via massive re-works of the existing healers, because not adding another one after six years is a really poor decision.
Other than that it looks fine I guess? Job reveals are rarely exciting anymore because for some reason they always hold off telling how they work to maintain hype and the trailers never tell us much.
Other than that it looks fine I guess? Job reveals are rarely exciting anymore because for some reason they always hold off telling how they work to maintain hype and the trailers never tell us much.
They know who's playing what. Even me I played Monk for the most amount of time and only recently branched off to have a healer and a tank class
It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, though. When new jobs are DPS, naturally there are going to be ever-more DPS. When no new jobs are healers, naturally that pool is going to stagnate or even shrink.
FFXIV could really learn from its predecessor in job design.
I was definitely surprised when it was announced as a DPS class, I expected a new healing class. But I'm not really disappointed and I'm definitely looking forward to trying it out.
That's a little unfair:
There are now:
4 tanks (inc Gunbreaker)
3 healers
3 buffers (inc Dancer)
3 casters
4 melees
There is a lot of variety there. Plus we dont even know what big battle system changes are coming yet...
i mean that's how ff14 works. there's no support, no buffers or debuffers. i'm sure she'll have some debuffs and DOT skills but that's it. forget the times of geomancers and ff11 dancers
Well there goes any interest in me playing this job.
Dancer needed to be a healer.
There are already too many DPS jobs as is.
Dancer needed to be a healer.
There are already too many DPS jobs as is.
It's not unfair, it's how the game's own systems treat each of the jobs. There's three roles. You can't queue as a buffer or a caster specifically in duty finder and there's very little content that requires parties to discriminate between DPS in that way. Damage is damage.
It's not unfair and your post is misleading.
The game has no straight "buffer" jobs. Bard and Machinist are DPS jobs. Nobody is inviting them to groups and saying "Okay, you stand in the back and keep those buffs up. We'll handle the rest!" They're DPS with support cooldown that you mash here and there.
Buffers in XIV are basically DPS jobs with certain support skills. Not sure why add more ranged DPS jobs when they sucked balancing ranged DPS since 2.0.
I love AST to much to play another healing class so that's not bad for me but out of all the classes they could have use it does seem like a waste for Dancer to be a dps, who knows maybe it was the class to have DPS players finally try something different.
And more reasons to completely drop MNK, I have no hope for the job that they would make it fun again but time will tell.
And more reasons to completely drop MNK, I have no hope for the job that they would make it fun again but time will tell.
XIV is okay on its own, but it never could hold a candle to XI's job design...
Locking everything down with the trifecta guaranteed that stuff like dancer being rDPS was inevitable.
It's hard to swallow when XI was such a big deal to me, but XIV is its own thing... Can't expect the classes to fill the same roles or perform the way they did in a different game I guess.
Locking everything down with the trifecta guaranteed that stuff like dancer being rDPS was inevitable.
It's hard to swallow when XI was such a big deal to me, but XIV is its own thing... Can't expect the classes to fill the same roles or perform the way they did in a different game I guess.
Hoped Dancer would be added for the last two years (when I started playing) as a Healer. Feared it would be DPS.
Last night finally revealed, and dang was I disappointed... Still am. I'm sure the Job will be cool, but I really wanted it to be a healer, as Dancer is my second favourite FF Job (Dragoon being first), but I don't play DPS.
At least it means comes ShB I won't need to power level myself to 70 with DNC to start the story, since now I'll just stick to one of the three existing Healer jobs.
Last night finally revealed, and dang was I disappointed... Still am. I'm sure the Job will be cool, but I really wanted it to be a healer, as Dancer is my second favourite FF Job (Dragoon being first), but I don't play DPS.
At least it means comes ShB I won't need to power level myself to 70 with DNC to start the story, since now I'll just stick to one of the three existing Healer jobs.
In isolation, Dancer being a ranged DPS is fine and it looks like an amazing job that most likely will be very popular.
Obviously the backlash is more because healer mains will not have got a new job for 2 expansions now and it could be a full 6 years between the last healer and a new one (if we even get one in 6.0). If a third job got announced that was a healer then I don't think there would be much hate on Dancer at all so I don't think the job design is the issue.
Obviously the backlash is more because healer mains will not have got a new job for 2 expansions now and it could be a full 6 years between the last healer and a new one (if we even get one in 6.0). If a third job got announced that was a healer then I don't think there would be much hate on Dancer at all so I don't think the job design is the issue.
