Final Fantasy XIV: Shadowbringers |OT| First World Problems

Jhey Cyphre

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is buying an apartment a good investment? I'm guessing since I'm starting so late gil won't become relevant for a very long time.
 

Sibylus

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is buying an apartment a good investment? I'm guessing since I'm starting so late gil won't become relevant for a very long time.
I think so. That apartment in Kugane was 500,000 gil and makes for a very cheap TP from Eorzea to the far east (or the first to the far east). Also has a place to store your chocobo if you don't have an FC house.
 

Chainshada

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Oct 25, 2017
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Up to 26 Titania EX kills, still haven't seen a single mount drop. 4 more and I"m just going to move on to Innocence for 30ish kills..Come back to them when the ilvl raises and I don't have to deal with 50% of "Farm" parties wiping 3 times and disbanding.
 

laoni

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Oct 25, 2017
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How much harder is Titania EX then Innocence EX?

Also does Titania EX drop the weapons outright or do you need to get totems?
Innocence has harder mechanics but if you fuck up, you pretty much just get a vuln stack of shame on yourself unless you really fuck up.

Titania EX if you fuck up even a littke, you've probably killed at least 1 other person and yourself.

I spent 2 lockouts getting my Innocence clear and all night getting my Titania.

It drops 1 weapon per clear,and you get 1 token as well, and when you get 10 you can trade them for a weapon of your choice
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Welp, after one night of trying this again, I don't think this is for me. I was having a good time playing through story missions, but then I hit a wall because of level requirement, and I can't even gain a single shitty level from 35 to 36 so I can continue the story. These level requirements to keep doing the story are just....really killing it for me.
 

TrueHero

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Feb 24, 2018
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Just wanted to say I've been really enjoying this game so far, already spent 300 hours in it this past month. In the beginning of heavensward rn and can't wait to see what all the hypes about. Wish i knew earlier that the FF game ive been looking for was in an mmo.
 

Kaah

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Jun 3, 2019
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Welp, after one night of trying this again, I don't think this is for me. I was having a good time playing through story missions, but then I hit a wall because of level requirement, and I can't even gain a single shitty level from 35 to 36 so I can continue the story. These level requirements to keep doing the story are just....really killing it for me.
Uh really ?
XP is extemely fast at this level, just do your roulette everyday and dont forget your bestiary logs. Levelling should not be a problem here.
 

Jhey Cyphre

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Oct 25, 2017
720
Welp, after one night of trying this again, I don't think this is for me. I was having a good time playing through story missions, but then I hit a wall because of level requirement, and I can't even gain a single shitty level from 35 to 36 so I can continue the story. These level requirements to keep doing the story are just....really killing it for me.
Wow. I guess MMOs just aren't for you. Levels are just given to you in this game with hardly any effort. I'm pretty sure you can run a single dungeon and gain that level you need. Or go for some stuff in your Hunting Log... or grind some FATES or do a few of the hundred or so side quest offered to you in that level range.
 

Perfect Chaos

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Oct 25, 2017
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Welp, after one night of trying this again, I don't think this is for me. I was having a good time playing through story missions, but then I hit a wall because of level requirement, and I can't even gain a single shitty level from 35 to 36 so I can continue the story. These level requirements to keep doing the story are just....really killing it for me.
Queue for the leveling duty roulette. Between the dungeon and the daily XP bonus reward, you’ll get like 2 levels at least for 15-20 minutes of time commitment.
 

Stripper13

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Oct 27, 2017
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Welp, after one night of trying this again, I don't think this is for me. I was having a good time playing through story missions, but then I hit a wall because of level requirement, and I can't even gain a single shitty level from 35 to 36 so I can continue the story. These level requirements to keep doing the story are just....really killing it for me.
Stay queued in the Duty Finder between story missions. You should have access to beast tribes soon too. They're an excellent source of exp.
 

Arkeband

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Nov 8, 2017
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Welp, after one night of trying this again, I don't think this is for me. I was having a good time playing through story missions, but then I hit a wall because of level requirement, and I can't even gain a single shitty level from 35 to 36 so I can continue the story. These level requirements to keep doing the story are just....really killing it for me.
Wait - you can’t gain a level from 35 to 36, is that because you’re on the free trial...?
 

MagnusGman

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
423
Dallas
Wrapped up the main quest tonight and Jesus man. I cried a little...

I love G'raha so much. All the little emotional twinges that hit with him are just so damn good. Calling out his name as he tries to sacrifice himself before going to the last zone was just - right through my heart.
 

jfkgoblue

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Oct 27, 2017
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So I played around in Titania ex with WHM after hitting 80. Yeah this job is so OP, I'm shitting out 6k DPS while not knowing how to play it well yet
 

Rayge

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Oct 27, 2017
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So Sorry if this is a dumb question...

In FFXI you could level separate jobs and carry over skills using a sub job.

If I level something like Samurai is there is "sub job" that I need to also level to carry skills better to make me a better damage dealer?
 

jfkgoblue

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Oct 27, 2017
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So Sorry if this is a dumb question...

In FFXI you could level separate jobs and carry over skills using a sub job.

If I level something like Samurai is there is "sub job" that I need to also level to carry skills better to make me a better damage dealer?
Not anymore
I mean don’t be surprised that SE has no idea how to balance healers lol.
Yeah what they did to healers has been so disappointing
 

taepoppuri

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Oct 29, 2017
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So Sorry if this is a dumb question...

In FFXI you could level separate jobs and carry over skills using a sub job.

If I level something like Samurai is there is "sub job" that I need to also level to carry skills better to make me a better damage dealer?
No need to level another class or job except the one you want to play :) they ditched that system back in ARR 😂
 

KeRaSh

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Oct 26, 2017
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What are those stockings?

I'm not even in Shadowbringers yet and I could tell immediately that was the final area before anyone said anything about it being a spoiler.
I'm super glad you were wrong because your post felt more like a spoiler than the original picture in question.

So I played around in Titania ex with WHM after hitting 80. Yeah this job is so OP, I'm shitting out 6k DPS while not knowing how to play it well yet
This gives me hope, haha. I have my good days but I'd consider myself slightly above average. I really want to give Titania EX a try once I'm through post-SB and ShB.

Yeah what they did to healers has been so disappointing
As a WHM I'm super happy with the changes. :P
 

Dreamboum

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Oct 28, 2017
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took me all night and more but I got my house

i'm not one to complain about the game, but the housing situation is frankly ridiculous
 

TheYanger

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Oct 25, 2017
5,403
What are those stockings?



I'm super glad you were wrong because your post felt more like a spoiler than the original picture in question.



This gives me hope, haha. I have my good days but I'd consider myself slightly above average. I really want to give Titania EX a try once I'm through post-SB and ShB.



As a WHM I'm super happy with the changes. :P
I'm not sure why any of you guys are trying to pretend the picture wasn't what it was at this point. It's insulting to the intelligence of the people that got spoiled, frankly, and it doesn't diminish the spoiler itself at all, like...if you show me what that picture was, and I THEN see it in the game, you saying 'no no it totally wasn't that' isn't going to make it suddenly surprising and cool instead. It's a bell that can't be unrung and lying about it won't actually bring that back.
 

Yankee Ruin X

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Oct 31, 2017
538
Okay. I played FFXIV 2.0 for around 11 months when it released, had a really good time. Quit a bit in advance of Heavensward, and despite hearing good things, I wasn't in a place to jump back in, so I didn't.

But everyone is talking about Shadowbringers like holy fuck, so...

...first off. I got a free copy of Heavensward a few months back. Is it good? Moreover, if I attempt to complete it, will I find able and willing souls to help me do so? (I am not on Ultros, it should be mentioned...it seems as though a transfer will cost me $18.) I don't even know if I'm near the end of MSQ 2.0; I have vague memories of fighting a scary armor man voiced by Richard Epcar in a fight with a shitton of lasers.

Or should I jump ahead to Shadowbringers?

I'm also a Dragoon and I remember being kind of a weaker job (or was it class?) so maybe I should consider upping one of the new ones. It might be tough for me to pick up Dragoon because I absolutely forget fucking everything about the job, and I won't have the first 50 levels to "learn" it, so maybe I should pick something else...but I remember 1-50 taking a not insignificant amount of time and the MSQ really helping, so how slow is it to bring something else up?
I jumped back in yesterday and hadn't played since ARR, initially it was a bit overwhelming for me as there was so much stuff to do so didn't know where to start. I have pretty much every job at 50 so the sheer amount of quest pop ups was insane and a bit daunting. Had to reset all my hotbars as many of the skills where obsolete for the jobs and figure out what all the new stuff did for it. Once that was sorted I decided to just plow on with the MSQ on Heavensward until I start getting back into the swing of things. Looking forward to being able to sink some real time into it this weekend and going to just stick to WHM until I get the lay of the land and get that up to 80 and then start unlocking the jobs added since ARR.

Hoping I can find a friendly FC I join so have some people to chat too and ask questions.
 

KeRaSh

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm not sure why any of you guys are trying to pretend the picture wasn't what it was at this point. It's insulting to the intelligence of the people that got spoiled, frankly, and it doesn't diminish the spoiler itself at all, like...if you show me what that picture was, and I THEN see it in the game, you saying 'no no it totally wasn't that' isn't going to make it suddenly surprising and cool instead. It's a bell that can't be unrung and lying about it won't actually bring that back.
Sorry, my point was not to downplay the spoiler from the screenshot.
In my case I was thinking about the looks of armors and glamours because that topic was discussed before that screenshot so when I saw the image I just looked at the character armor without looking at the background. For all I know it could have been the backdrop of the Titan fight.
It wasn't until everyone screamed bloody murder that I realized that I was looking at a spoiler.
People kept praising the surprise of the final area so I'm super looking forward to experiencing that. Then someone said the picture contained a spoiler for the final area so I was slightly bummed because I thought I kinda knew what the final area might look like now.
That knowledge to me was as much of a spoiler as the picture was for other people who really looked at the backdrop of the character.

It's one thing to see something without context and people calling it out as a spoiler but it's just as bad if someone gives the spoiler in question context without using spoiler tags for that.
 
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Dark Knight

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Oct 25, 2017
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Completed my first challenging ShB content with a friend in a learning party tonight, Innocence EX. So fun!
 

mdzapeer

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May 8, 2018
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Wrapped up the main quest tonight and Jesus man. I cried a little...

I love G'raha so much. All the little emotional twinges that hit with him are just so damn good. Calling out his name as he tries to sacrifice himself before going to the last zone was just - right through my heart.
Same here.

I probably would have started bawling if he actually died, and with my wife and kids around too, good thing Emet saved my dignity at the last minute.
 

Yankee Ruin X

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Oct 31, 2017
538
Does anyone have a guide for WHM and what skill rotations I should be using, also would be helpful to have some images of UI layouts for PS4 and things like that too
 
Nov 1, 2017
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I've been thinking and for new players to get up to speed faster, would it be okay to skip the entirety of A Realm Reborn and start with the 2.1 patches (Seventh Astral Era Quests). I remember those had you revisiting several regions and redo ARR primals while also recapping and advancing the story, so maybe that's a faster jumping on point? Also when I do low-level duties I'm really annoyed with how little skills you have and maybe starting a job with all skills up to level 50 might be better.
 

Klyka

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Oct 25, 2017
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Welp, after one night of trying this again, I don't think this is for me. I was having a good time playing through story missions, but then I hit a wall because of level requirement, and I can't even gain a single shitty level from 35 to 36 so I can continue the story. These level requirements to keep doing the story are just....really killing it for me.
I am unsure how you are not leveling up.
Running one dungeon should level you at that point. Doing your daily duty roulettes should level you. Doing leves, doing FATEs, anything really.
Are you by some chance on a trial account? Those can't level above level 35.
I honestly have never heard of someone not being able to level cause the game throws just SO much XP at you like everywhere.
 

Skyfireblaze

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think so. That apartment in Kugane was 500,000 gil and makes for a very cheap TP from Eorzea to the far east (or the first to the far east). Also has a place to store your chocobo if you don't have an FC house.
Wait what did I miss here, there are differenciations between buying a house and apartment? I always wanted a place for my character other than the house of my FC but the cheapest house I saw on Phoenix was around 4.000.000 and while I could afford that, I would have only around 500.000 gil left. If I could get something for 500k I would jump on it right away.
 

Klyka

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Oct 25, 2017
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Wait what did I miss here, there are differenciations between buying a house and apartment? I always wanted a place for my character other than the house of my FC but the cheapest house I saw on Phoenix was around 4.000.000 and while I could afford that, I would have only around 500.000 gil left. If I could get something for 500k I would jump on it right away.
Every housing district has an apartment building with I think about 90 apartments for sale. You can buy one there for 500k
 

seroun

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Oct 25, 2018
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Welp, after one night of trying this again, I don't think this is for me. I was having a good time playing through story missions, but then I hit a wall because of level requirement, and I can't even gain a single shitty level from 35 to 36 so I can continue the story. These level requirements to keep doing the story are just....really killing it for me.
If you are a free tial account, you can't go above level 35.

If you are not a free trial account, go on any dungeon or do any Duty Finder: Leveling. Gaining levels is really easy with the duty finder/other activities. If you are searching to grind the levels through killing overworld mobs, this is not your game.
 

Abominuz

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Oct 29, 2017
697
Netherlands
I need some tips, am lvl 56 just finished the main story (of ARR) and a shitload of quests open up and a lot of hard dungeons. Is it better to do them right away or should i just focus on the main story and trough all the expansions? Feels like i will be overleveld before i do the first expansion.
 

Klyka

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Oct 25, 2017
5,143
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Wow I wonder how did I miss this playing since launch, thanks for the info! But since it's limited to 90, I won't have much chance to get one right now, right?
I myself only found out about this yesterday when I finally looked it up.
I always thought when people said "apartments" they were talking about private rooms in the FC houses XD

I need some tips, am lvl 56 just finished the main story (of ARR) and a shitload of quests open up and a lot of hard dungeons. Is it better to do them right away or should i just focus on the main story and trough all the expansions? Feels like i will be overleveld before i do the first expansion.
You can't really help being overleveled, so don't worry about it. Overgearing is just how the game rolls with older content.
You should normally always be continuing the main story, cause that's what unlocks many things and gives you access to all the new regions and stuff. I would however give you the advice of doing the blue marked sidequests cause they unlock all kinds of things. And having the new "hard" dungeons (which is just a moniker to say they are new dungeons set in the same setting of the old one) in your duty roulette means you will see more and different dungeons when you sign up. They are fun to do and it's just more content to do,you know?
 

Skyfireblaze

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Oct 25, 2017
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I myself only found out about this yesterday when I finally looked it up.
I always thought when people said "apartments" they were talking about private rooms in the FC houses XD
Yeah it was the same for me, I never thought otherwise and I'm kinda relieved I'm not alone with this :P But hey I'll atleast try and see if I can buy an apartment anywhere on my server later.
 

TheYanger

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Oct 25, 2017
5,403
I've been thinking and for new players to get up to speed faster, would it be okay to skip the entirety of A Realm Reborn and start with the 2.1 patches (Seventh Astral Era Quests). I remember those had you revisiting several regions and redo ARR primals while also recapping and advancing the story, so maybe that's a faster jumping on point? Also when I do low-level duties I'm really annoyed with how little skills you have and maybe starting a job with all skills up to level 50 might be better.
That sounds worse, honestly. You'd lose all story context. If anything the 2.x patches are way worse than 2.0 itself.

The real issue is that there is important lore stuff woven into all of it, but they put all the padding in the MSQ back then. Now they don't put nearly as much of that, and it shows. There will always be little sidetracked storylines but both 2.0 and 2.x suffer extensively from having like 1 tiny bit of important lore shoved in the middle of a 15 quest chain for no real reason other than to pad the playtime of a patch.
 

fr0st

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Oct 28, 2017
908
I need some tips, am lvl 56 just finished the main story (of ARR) and a shitload of quests open up and a lot of hard dungeons. Is it better to do them right away or should i just focus on the main story and trough all the expansions? Feels like i will be overleveld before i do the first expansion.
It's up to you but I'd say do the MSQ since there's 100 quests between ARR and heavensward.
 

seroun

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Oct 25, 2018
409
I've been thinking and for new players to get up to speed faster, would it be okay to skip the entirety of A Realm Reborn and start with the 2.1 patches (Seventh Astral Era Quests). I remember those had you revisiting several regions and redo ARR primals while also recapping and advancing the story, so maybe that's a faster jumping on point? Also when I do low-level duties I'm really annoyed with how little skills you have and maybe starting a job with all skills up to level 50 might be better.
If you start a job with basically 65% of the level done, then why would you play the game?

Same for the story. Can the new player experience be improved? Yeah. But the solution is not removing 2.x, but removing some of the padding between quests and removing some of the quests between 2.x and 3.0.


If you are annoyed when doing low-level duties, you can just unsync.

PD: Besides there are already services for that. Go to Mogstation and you can buy potions to skip story and level characters. But why play the game if you aren't going to play the game?
 

Klyka

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Oct 25, 2017
5,143
Germany
I personally feel I would be a whole lot less invested in basically anything in the game if I had skipped large portions of it.
There is so much this game builds on in it's stories. So many characters you haven't seen for like 3 years and suddenly they show up again.
 

Philippo

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Oct 28, 2017
2,142
Milan, Italy
Hey guys, i am really tempted by FFXIV for how much its story is praised, but i want to solo it as i don't like multiplayer games. Is it feasible?
How long would it take to play all the "main" story beats from ARR to Shadowbringers?
 

Qvoth

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Oct 26, 2017
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2 - 300 hours I suppose, and I think that's being optimistic
That's not even counting queuing waiting times
 

fr0st

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Oct 28, 2017
908
If you start a job with basically 65% of the level done, then why would you play the game?

Same for the story. Can the new player experience be improved? Yeah. But the solution is not removing 2.x, but removing some of the padding between quests and removing some of the quests between 2.x and 3.0.


If you are annoyed when doing low-level duties, you can just unsync.

PD: Besides there are already services for that. Go to Mogstation and you can buy potions to skip story and level characters. But why play the game if you aren't going to play the game?
Probably the bad reputation of ARR isn't helping. They can also watch the cutscenes if the skip right? Or just YouTube the story to get an idea of what is happening.

Another thing is maybe they don't play much and with this game being sub only, they might stop playing cause the story or combat is too slow for the at early levels and just want to get to the good part.
 

Klyka

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Oct 25, 2017
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Germany
Hey guys, i am really tempted by FFXIV for how much its story is praised, but i want to solo it as i don't like multiplayer games. Is it feasible?
How long would it take to play all the "main" story beats from ARR to Shadowbringers?
The only times the game ever forces you to group up is when you gotta do "Trials" which are big bossfights and the dungeons for the story.
In those times, the most people usually talk is a quick "hi" at the start and then a "gg" at the end unless things go wrong.
if you just write "Hi all, this is my first time here" people will understand and if something doesn't work out, they will tell you what to do.
First time players btw are good to have in a party cause you actually get a nice bonus for playing with them, so usually everyone is very welcoming. You can of course run into the occasional ass, but over my 6 years in this game, those moments were few and far between and you can always just find another group with the matchmaking.

Personally, before Shadowbringers, most of my playtime was as a solo player cause my friends weren't really playing at the time and if there is one MMO that works great as a solo game, then it is FF14.
 

sredgrin

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Oct 27, 2017
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Hey guys, i am really tempted by FFXIV for how much its story is praised, but i want to solo it as i don't like multiplayer games. Is it feasible?
How long would it take to play all the "main" story beats from ARR to Shadowbringers?

You have to do some stuff with people, there are main story quests that are dungeons and trials. Granted these are typically very easy, at least to the point I've gotten, so you can effectively just not communicate if you want.