Final Fantasy XIV: Shadowbringers |OT2| The Zodiark Killer

Pyros Eien

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Oct 31, 2017
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There's a reference in the final normal mode quest to needing to complete ??? from the MSQ, and so the question is going to be if the ??? normal quest gating Savage is before or after that point. Forcing MSQ before Savage would be a hilariously bad decision but... kind of in-line with how XIV likes to roll, so maybe MSQ speedruns incoming. Mash that skip cutscene as hard as you can.
I do like that the story of the raid ties into the MSQ, but they should probably release the raid a week later if they're gonna do it like that for sure.
 

MochaKoffee

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Oct 27, 2017
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Basically any of the recent-ish marketing for this game will totally undermine the hell out of the ending of 2.X.

Or, hell, just letting the current intro movie play out, lol.
 

rpm

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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the 24th century
Yeah, as someone who started playing in 2018, 2.55's cutscene basically did nothing for me. I'd imagine it was a lot more impactful when it was current. It's still my second favorite cutscene behind the end of Shadowbringers because of (2.55 spoilers, duh) "You would mock her? THEN MOCK HER FROM HELL!". That cutscene specifically was the moment I knew that I loved this game.
 

MochaKoffee

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah, as someone who started playing in 2018, 2.55's cutscene basically did nothing for me. I'd imagine it was a lot more impactful when it was current. It's still my second favorite cutscene behind the end of Shadowbringers because of (2.55 spoilers, duh) "You would mock her? THEN MOCK HER FROM HELL!". That cutscene specifically was the moment I knew that I loved this game.
The "rules" hadn't been quite established just yet, so it was a lot more impactful, yeah. Especially because they left it to stew right there for a good few months, lol.

Y'shtola hadn't taken her customary dips into the lifestream yet, Moenbryda was staying dead, etc. Now, it's relatively clear that death is pretty cheap in FFXIV unless you happen to be a Femroe, a rather Splendid individual, or a boy potato.
 

DNAbro

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Oct 25, 2017
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All right finally was able to finish all the Coils of Bahamut. So if they make references to that in 5.2 I am ready. Also took the time to clean up all my inventory space and retainers so I am 100% ready. Tuesday can't come soon enough.
 

GLAVONAK

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Oct 25, 2017
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the 2.55 (40 minute lol) scene was sooooo good for me
it was like they finally decided to, uh, start doing things lol

only finished stormblood the other night but that scene was still a highlight
 

kurahador

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Oct 28, 2017
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Urghhh...finished Pyros story, but my logogram barely half filled.

How do I get gold coffer exactly? The bunny keep giving me bronze coffer. And what's the best way to get heat-warped chest?
 

aceface

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Oct 25, 2017
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Urghhh...finished Pyros story, but my logogram barely half filled.

How do I get gold coffer exactly? The bunny keep giving me bronze coffer. And what's the best way to get heat-warped chest?
For gold coffers, do HUNDREDS OF COFFERS and even when you get the golds you can count on not getting that mount you want!

I'm not bitter at all....

In the end I told myself if I made enough gil from selling the logograms and stuff from all those other coffers to buy the gritty mount off of the marketboard I'd give up. And that's what I did, 6 million gil later.
 

N_Cryo

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Nov 6, 2017
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Forgot to read the patch notes and im bummed about the new beast tribe quests. I dont like how its gathering exclusive as I maxed mining and treecuttin for ishgard restoration materials. Meanwhile my fishing is lacking but I was reserving that for ocean fishing. Hopefully the currency exhange rewards are better.
 

penguindrum

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Feb 10, 2019
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I finally cleared Hades EX today and I am beyond ecstatic. I've only been playing for three months and this was my first foray into harder content. It took about a week of party finder parties. I feel like I can do phase 1 in my sleep at this point but everyone would always leave once we made significant phase 3 or 4 progress. Anyway, onto farming it. I want my main class (WHM) weapon but of course I'm also praying for the mount.
 

Buckle

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Oct 27, 2017
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Ugh..

*shadowbringers ending*

Zenos is such a boring villian.

Varis was a lot more interesting than him to me and I was looking forward to more of him in the Garlemald expansion.

Will be glad when we finally kill this character and move on already. He does nothing for me.
 

rpm

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
3,878
the 24th century
Ugh..

*shadowbringers ending*

Zenos is such a boring villian.

Varis was a lot more interesting than him to me and I was looking forward to more of him in the Garlemald expansion.

Will be glad when we finally kill this character and move on already. He does nothing for me.
I liked Zenos a lot in 4.0.

I like him a lot less since then. The throat slit was, IMO, a perfect ending to his arc. Every time I've seen him since then, I get a little pissed that it didn't end there.

I wish we got more of Varis.

All I can say is that this shit better be going somewhere, and I really hope he's completely out of the picture by 6.0
 

B.K.

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Oct 31, 2017
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I expect Zenos to be around until the end of 6.0. I expect him to gain Zodiark's power and become an avatar of Zodiark and the Warrior of Light to gain Hydaelyn's power and their final battle to act as the final battle between Hydaelyn and Zodiark.
 

rpm

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
3,878
the 24th century
I expect Zenos to be around until the end of 6.0. I expect him to gain Zodiark's power and become an avatar of Zodiark and the Warrior of Light to gain Hydaelyn's power and their final battle to act as the final battle between Hydaelyn and Zodiark.
I also expect him to be around for a while, I just really hope he isn't. Like, if in 5.2, Elidibus just said "I have no need for you anymore, sword boy" and killed him, I'd be more than okay with that, because if 6.0 is going to be a Garlemald expansion, I'd prefer a focus on new characters or on the Ascians themselves. I liked the direction they were moving in during 4.X in regards to what post-Zenos Garlemald would look like with the Varis stuff, and I feel like 5.0 just fucking did a 180. Post 4.X, Zenos should only have been a handy puppet that Elidibus uses for a bit. The story contrivances needed to keep him in are tiring (although they've always kind of been tiring, though, he's a dude that's very good with a sword). Y'shtola needed qualified and powerful people (Kan-E-Senna, Emet-Selch) to pull her ass from the lifestream but Zenos can do it apparently by himself just via bootleg Echo. God, Y'shtola, are you even trying?

He was a cool villain for one expansion, but it's time to move on. Emet-Selch was even better villain than Zenos but I'd be even more pissed if he came back too
 

aceface

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Oct 25, 2017
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I expect Zenos to be around until the end of 6.0. I expect him to gain Zodiark's power and become an avatar of Zodiark and the Warrior of Light to gain Hydaelyn's power and their final battle to act as the final battle between Hydaelyn and Zodiark.
I figure this is probably right (5.0 and after spoilers)
I think it's useful having Zenos around for storytelling purposes because he destabilizes the Empire giving you an in and a common enemy to rally the people of the Garlean empire against in the inevitable Garlean redemption arc we'll be getting in 6.0
 

Fanuilos

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Oct 27, 2017
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I also expect him to be around for a while, I just really hope he isn't. Like, if in 5.2, Elidibus just said "I have no need for you anymore, sword boy" and killed him, I'd be more than okay with that, because if 6.0 is going to be a Garlemald expansion, I'd prefer a focus on new characters or on the Ascians themselves. I liked the direction they were moving in during 4.X in regards to what post-Zenos Garlemald would look like with the Varis stuff, and I feel like 5.0 just fucking did a 180. Post 4.X, Zenos should only have been a handy puppet that Elidibus uses for a bit. The story contrivances needed to keep him in are tiring (although they've always kind of been tiring, though, he's a dude that's very good with a sword). Y'shtola needed qualified and powerful people (Kan-E-Senna, Emet-Selch) to pull her ass from the lifestream but Zenos can do it apparently by himself just via bootleg Echo. God, Y'shtola, are you even trying?

He was a cool villain for one expansion, but it's time to move on. Emet-Selch was even better villain than Zenos but I'd be even more pissed if he came back too
Hopefully there's some twist coming for him in 5.2 this tuesday. It would be nice if Elidibus slapped him back down to earth. Really curious to see what interest he has in Amaurot besides chasing WoL booty. If they're gonna keep him around at least give him some other goals.
 

Fanuilos

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Oct 27, 2017
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A dark knight in brayflox should know not to stand in the big line aoe from a big scary dragon, right? Oooh, I'm not cut out for healing
 

Pyros Eien

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Oct 31, 2017
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A dark knight in brayflox should know not to stand in the big line aoe from a big scary dragon, right? Oooh, I'm not cut out for healing
Technically they could be a new tank, DRK starts at 30 so only a little bit before Brayflox, and you don't need to have leveled a tank to unlock DRK. The breath is also pretty quick iirc on that boss, so that if you only react to it there's a decent chance to get clipped. It's healable though especially if you esuna the dot once it's at 2stacks, unless the tank also has garbage gear.

Just something you have to deal with when healing dungeons, most tanks aren't even "average", below average is more the norm especially in leveling dungeons. A lot don't bother dodging anything or using cooldowns at all.
 

Fanuilos

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Oct 27, 2017
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Technically they could be a new tank, DRK starts at 30 so only a little bit before Brayflox, and you don't need to have leveled a tank to unlock DRK. The breath is also pretty quick iirc on that boss, so that if you only react to it there's a decent chance to get clipped. It's healable though especially if you esuna the dot once it's at 2stacks, unless the tank also has garbage gear.

Just something you have to deal with when healing dungeons, most tanks aren't even "average", below average is more the norm especially in leveling dungeons. A lot don't bother dodging anything or using cooldowns at all.
Yeah, I've been looking at my 55 white mage and been thinking I want to get back to it. It's been a while since I healed so I figured I would level up astrologian a bit. I just need to chill and keep going.
 

Wyze

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Nov 15, 2018
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Man I’m really not into the mechanic that involves popping an ocgd to spam an ability as much as possible during a 10 to 15 seconds window. Feels very clunky, doesnt look good to me either.

MCH, DRK and WAR of the ones I’ve played, have the same spam mechanic. Doesnt feel satisfying at all to me.
 

Skyfireblaze

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Oct 25, 2017
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Man I’m really not into the mechanic that involves popping an ocgd to spam an ability as much as possible during a 10 to 15 seconds window. Feels very clunky, doesnt look good to me either.

MCH, DRK and WAR of the ones I’ve played, have the same spam mechanic. Doesnt feel satisfying at all to me.
I can see that, I personally also don't really like the combat-system of the game as a whole but I love everything else about it to such a high degree that I can easily but up with the "meh" combat experience. Now if FFXIV had a battle-system like TERA or Blade and Soul I'm not sure I would ever play anything else in my life ever again.
 

Wyze

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Nov 15, 2018
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I can see that, I personally also don't really like the combat-system of the game as a whole but I love everything else about it to such a high degree that I can easily but up with the "meh" combat experience. Now if FFXIV had a battle-system like TERA or Blade and Soul I'm not sure I would ever play anything else in my life ever again.
I do enjoy the combat actually, trials are well design and dungeon bosses are fun.

I really enjoy playing as Black Mage, Gunbreaker, Samurai, Dragoons and Red Mage. Those classes have fun mechanics and rotations. No spamming of abilities.