4K (and 8K) resolutions, in the living room, are most beneficial with large screens. Tiago is quite wrong to not even consider this; distance matters not, it's the size of the screen. The larger screens get the more detail they can show that can be appreciable by the viewer.Baccus Put this vid in the OP along with the screenshots below. It's a waste of rendering resources that could be better spent on effects, higher framerate, etc. I'd take a checkerboard solution or straight 1440p and (60 fps or better effects) over just 4k.
Tiago Sousa agrees with you btw:
OP isn't saying there is no difference, they're saying higher resolutions hold graphical advancements back, basically you now have PS3 games with blown up resolutions instead of really revolutionary new rendering techniques and also physics advancements.
After getting a 4K TV, and seeing games in 4K, I also think it's a waste of rendering resources, and 1440p with better performance or other uses of the power is a much better tradeoff.What dawned on me is that next gen, with consoles probably targeting native 4K, we're not getting the generational leap we could have had if devs had stayed on 1080p or the much more healthy middle of 1440p. The jump in power previously used to advance lighting, polygons and calculations are now being used to stretch the image with negligible difference in "realism".
Greebman brought up the very reason why this shouldn't (and won't) ever be the case. There is no point to an increase in detail if that detail cannot be seen.
Op is not talking about OLED or HDR tho, he's talking about the fact that he doesn't see much detail being brought out by higher resolution on current gen games.
I don't think anyone is saying that a 4K image is not a huge improvement over 1080p in terms of image quality, as it obviously is. Just that the jump comes at a huge hit, which not everyone prefers instead of a smoother game or other improvements at 1080p or 1440p.
OP has an NU7000?
Many people are saying you can't see the difference.I don't think anyone is saying that a 4K image is not a huge improvement over 1080p in terms of image quality, as it obviously is. Just that the jump comes at a huge hit, which not everyone prefers instead of a smoother game or other improvements at 1080p or 1440p.
Tiago is not wrong at all. 4k does not improve the graphics in anyway imo. I have a sony x900e and a 27" 1080p Samsung CFG73 VA monitor. Playing Starwars BF2 on the Xbox One X looks noticeably worse than playing the SWBF2 on my CFG73 at max settings and 144hz.4K (and 8K) resolutions, in the living room, are most beneficial with large screens. Tiago is quite wrong to not even consider this; distance matters not, it's the size of the screen. The larger screens get the more detail they can show that can be appreciable by the viewer.
Yea, its crazy to judge 4k as not worth it when all their experience is with the the lowest end budget 4k TV Samsung has in its line up.The big jump is HDR. The model you bought, (NU7100) has iffy HDR and no local dimming. That model is at a great price for its size, but I wouldn't discount all 4K tv's based on the performance of the NU7100. The Samsung Q8 and Q9 are stunning as is the Sony 900F in the LCD category.
Yeah, this is especially irritating. DMC5 on Xbox One comes to mind from what we've seen of the demos.
Of course it's going to look worse if everything else is the same except for the resolution. If devs drop resolution and don't use the extra processing power for other stuff, then it is pointless, but that's not the argument being made.
I thought the jump from playing 900p Spider-man on my 4k TV to playing it via my PS4 Pro when I upgraded was massive personally. A big jump. I’d love a 60fps mode obviously but optional.
For still images, yes. But not when the game still runs in 30fps and all the details get blurry once the image starts moving.
Not at all what I was arguing, in simple words, if you can't fix clipping, unrealistically behaving physics, etc there's no reason to increase resolution, it only amplifies the flaws.
Then why do 480p TV broadcasts look more detailed than your average 4k game? That is false.