Fire breaks out at Notre Dame cathedral, developing situation [Update: major structural collapse - Art and other Assets Saved] (See Staff Post)

Alcoremortis

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Oct 25, 2017
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I’m devastated by this. I almost want to just take the day off work because of this. Notre Dame was one of the most beautiful churches I’ve been to and seeing like this is just heartbreaking.
 

PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
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This is just unbelievably tragic. I hope they can save at least some of the building.

850 years...damn thing is 850 years old. It makes America as a country seem like a baby.
 

ArmGunar

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Oct 30, 2017
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I'd assume this cathedral, like many other buildings, has been thoroughly 3d mapped from every angle, so that with as much will have been lost, they can at least rebuild the structure identically?
Yes of course and it will take decades to rebuild this
But stained glass windows, paintings, relics are probably lost

And this monument is 855 years old, has seen world wars, etc... this is sad
 

dragonbane

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Oct 26, 2017
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Ugh I wanted to go to Paris for the first time in a year. This is crushing :( Not sure why anyone would be celebrating this, I'm as atheist as they come but cathedrals are beautiful structures
 

jani

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Nov 9, 2017
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What i don't understand is that when these historic buildings are renovated/repaired why there isn't round the clock monitoring/guard on site untill it's finished.. sure it might cost but rebuilding from the ashes is quite a bit more expensive not to mention the loss of history which is priceless..
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Fucking awful. My wife and I have been planning a trip to Europe that was going to take place in 2021 and this was definitely on the list of things to see. Such a loss.
 

KojiKnight

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ugh I wanted to go to Paris for the first time in a year. This is crushing :( Not sure why anyone would be celebrating this, I'm as atheist as they come but cathedrals are beautiful structures
Assholes using being atheists for their excuse to be assholes, nothing more. Sucks for the majority of us who aren't... but every group has them.
 

Cogg88

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Oct 27, 2017
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Damn, always would of loved to seen the cathedral in person. Just one of those historical landmarks you assume will always be there. Sad a piece of history is gone. Yeah they can and probably will rebuild, just doesn’t feel the same.
 

i-Lo

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Oct 31, 2017
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That landmark has significant historical ramification and has served as inspiration in other mediums. This is an absolutely and unequivocal tragic loss of history. The way the fire was burning it almost looked it was being force fed oxygen... holy shit. I am hoping against hope that there is something left of the historical place after the fire has been put out.

Good luck to the firefighters.

Also hoping that the fire was not arson.
 

meaulnes

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Oct 27, 2017
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The opera house in Barcelona burnt to nothing and was fully rebuilt. News are incredibly sad but restoration can and will happen for sure.
 

Tapiozona

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Oct 28, 2017
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Late to the news here. Is there any idea on what caused it? God forbid it was arson..that's some evil shit.
 

Acidote

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Oct 26, 2017
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Absolutely horrible. I was close to tears watching the spire collapse. Notre Dame needs to be rebuild, come what may, just like other cultural landmarks. Reminded me of the arson at Kinkakuji, which has been rebuild as well.
This is a little bit different. Japanese temples and castles are designed to be dismantled (or partially dismantled) and rebuilt with new wood.
 

TheBaldwin

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Feb 25, 2018
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So upsetting

Hate loosing history of any kind, especially stunning architecture and importance to a country.

Hopefully some main parts can be recovered.
 

Luke92

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Jan 31, 2019
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Fuck fuck fuck

This is so unreal. You read about big fires destroying stuff in history but you'd never think something like this could happen today. But fuck, so much destuction in less than two hours. Such a tragedy.
 

steejee

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Oct 28, 2017
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Cultural tragedy. Sadly haven't gotten to see it in person yet, hopefully they're able to salvage/save as much as possible...
 

Skade

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Oct 28, 2017
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Thing is, the more the fire rages on, the more the scaffoldings might melt and crumble inside potentially damaging the vault (if it hasn't fallen yet). And the more the firefighters pour water in the building to try to estinguish the flames, the more weight and damage they'll inflict on the structure.

It will be extremely long to rebuild such damages.
 

Calamari41

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Oct 25, 2017
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What i don't understand is that when these historic buildings are renovated/repaired why there isn't round the clock monitoring/guard on site untill it's finished.. sure it might cost but rebuilding from the ashes is quite a bit more expensive not to mention the loss of history which is priceless..
Yeah, there actually usually is in a way. Especially on "hot" jobs, like with iron workers for example, in the construction industry you'll have basically a fire watch team there at all times ready to pounce, and what's more, they stick around for hours after that particular "hot" task is done, to make sure that nothing was kindled. That this was able to happen is absolutely mindblowing.
 

Baconmonk

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Oct 26, 2017
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Ugh I wanted to go to Paris for the first time in a year. This is crushing :( Not sure why anyone would be celebrating this, I'm as atheist as they come but cathedrals are beautiful structures
I'm a full on atheist that scoffs at the religious stuff, and Notre Dame still had a major impact on me. Whatever the beliefs or reasons are, incredible art and architecture and history is universal. People made that mind blowing thing and all the stuff in it. Anyone celebrating this has some issues.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Wow, damn...one of the most iconic structures in Europe, survived world wars, massive upheavals to society and culture, and then, after all that, burns down in a renovation.
 

theBmZ

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Oct 29, 2017
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Assholes using being atheists for their excuse to be assholes, nothing more. Sucks for the majority of us who aren't... but every group has them.
Yeah I don’t get it, just respect other people’s beliefs. I’m an atheist myself, and hate seeing this. It’s an historical landmark, and beautiful piece of architecture.
 

Terminus

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Oct 30, 2017
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“My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings
Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
 

Nothing Loud

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Oct 25, 2017
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Notre Dame instills a peace in me that is hard to describe. I’ve visited it twice and both times were magical, the second time being where I went to the bell tower and the roof and saw the beautiful view of Paris. The first time I saw it, I was backpacking across Europe by myself, and it felt therapeutic to stand alone, entranced in front of its peaceful face on a sunny day and watch all of Paris walk by. I fondly remember the cakes and coffee I enjoyed at the cafe on its northern side across the street. There’s something magnificent about enjoying a calm morning with Notre Dame in your peripheral on a blue sky day. It feels like a silent guardian of Paris. You could always count on Notre Dame being in Paris. It didn’t matter who was king or prime minister or who was at war or what century it is since the Middle Ages, Notre Dame and its art was always there. Im so grateful I got to see it before all of this. I’m crying now. I’m gonna try to find my pictures.
 

TheMango55

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Nov 1, 2017
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Awful news.

I’m confident that the cathedral can be rebuilt but it will take decades and the historical contents inside are a tragic loss.
 

Bleu

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Sep 21, 2018
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The stained glass were thoroughly mapped for renovation several times so at worst they should be able to repair/redo them.
 

Tranq

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Oct 21, 2018
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The building is of emotional value to people. You lose something close to you and have people go '¯\_(ツ)_/¯ good reminder it happens', see how you would react to that.
It's a public forum, not a funeral. Not everyone will react the same way to loss, especailly something as connected to wealth, power and religion as the ND. Your feelings don't justify abusive behavior.
 

Dragon's Game

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went on my twitter and just saw this guy post this

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how do you react to this?
 
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mhayes86

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Oct 27, 2017
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The reports and video clips I've been seeing are awful and incredibly depressing. I hate seeing or hearing of history being lost.