I'll look for the official French tweet but it's around here somewhere.
EDIT: Oh, nvm, it's linked to the tweet there.
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Fire breaks out at Notre Dame cathedral, developing situation [Update: major structural collapse - Art and other Assets Saved] (See Staff Post)
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I'll look for the official French tweet but it's around here somewhere.
EDIT: Oh, nvm, it's linked to the tweet there.
Imagine lacking this much tact and self awareness in situations where you've visibly upset a number of people and still insist that you're in the right, parading the fact that you're free to continue posting as you have been.
I teach Cultural Studies, and the thought occurs to me that there are few things that have occurred in my life as significant as the loss of this building.
That's not hyperbole. It's the honest truth.
That's not hyperbole. It's the honest truth.
People coming here and posting nihilistic "everything will be gone" stuff knowing exactly what response they will get and then they are *shocked pikachu* when getting proper response. Jesus. Like atheists who always must point out to believers that they're wrong.
ok be real with us, what was her name and why did she end it?
The construction of Sagrada Familia is actually getting faster because of the advancement in computer aided design. They now have a complete 3D model of the building and things can be manufactured digitally.
It's gonna be different for Notre Dame, because you want to restore it to how it was before which means utilizing a lot of traditional techniques.
I hope you are not american, becuase with this type of shit, you only give americans a bad name in terms of history and architecture.
And even if you are not, wtf is wrong with you.
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Oh, just read your other messages, just another idiot nihilist.
This live footage doesn't have commentary and the silence is so surreal https://youtu.be/qRXqiJe3bXs
Thats right. They are hoping to save more from the fire than would be destroyed if they dumped several tons of water onto the structure, weak as it already is now.
In addition to the weight of the water, there is the risk of not hitting the target. This risk runs hitting other people and/or damaging other buildings.
Imagine being this ignorant you don't see the harm in your words and how much you're pissing people off. It's like you want to be the most ignored member here
I hope the hunchback is alright.
its really sad to see something that old being wiped away into nothing but ash. I know a restoration is most likely out of the picture but I hope they took lotsa pictures over the past 700 years so they can at least build another one.
its really sad to see something that old being wiped away into nothing but ash. I know a restoration is most likely out of the picture but I hope they took lotsa pictures over the past 700 years so they can at least build another one.
I am heartbroken at the likely collapse of one of the greatest structures of European history, and probably of modern humankind. Even more tragic is the likelihood that this fire won't be stopped anytime soon. I need to contact my relatives in Paris to get a better idea of how bad this will get.
No clue, the original french tweet is in there however and others have confirmed that's what it translates to so it should be accurate.
oof no it's really not like that.
People care about both for very different reasons.
Not catholic but in 2016 I had the opportunity to attend Sunday Mass at the cathedral and it was a really great experience and one of the highlights of my trip. The cathedral is absolutely beautiful and I would always recommend folks check it out when they visit Paris.
I'm extremely sad to see this news. Assuming it can't be rebuilt/repaired I wonder what they'll do with the site.
I'm extremely sad to see this news. Assuming it can't be rebuilt/repaired I wonder what they'll do with the site.
When 9/11 happened the buildings were also cultural monuments. But we rebuilt there. All I'm saying is this isn't the end of the French cultural impact because a building burnt down. Time to come together and make something even more monumental.
If all you see from my posts are nihilism then you aren't actually reading them. Just assuming what you want to. Humanity made Notre Dame. We can make other things now. I'm saying is a clean slate and a look to an even better future (maybe). But you guys can keep misjudging my posts as much as you want to.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
it's like parody at this point, do you even read what you write you loon?
People have been banned for less... It's fucking pathetic and honestly insulting to anyone who cares about what this represents.
Do us all a favor? Leave the fucking thread.
No one wants to wade through your edge-lord garbage to discuss this. Just... Leave the thread. Please.
The construction of the Sagrada Família started in 1882 and, after revolutionaries set parts of it and the blueprints on fire during the Spanish Civil War in 1936, it isn't even close to being finished.
I know, apples and oranges. It's good to be optimistic though.
So, so horrible. I can't imagine how bad those in France feel.
Please, if you have the means/availabity do see Paris in your lifetime. My favorite place to visit in the entire world.
Please, if you have the means/availabity do see Paris in your lifetime. My favorite place to visit in the entire world.
I'm a little ashamed to admit it, but this was kind of how I was with 9/11 the morning of. "It's just some buildings... nothing is going to change..."
But I was 12 years old. And in shock. It was hard for me to comprehend everything that was happening.
Plus superheated stone and water causes even more issues as stones crack, explode etc. It really is a case where they have to just hope when the fire goes out the shell is intact
I was lucky to go there in 2010.
Beautiful place. When you are there and imagine how many people steped on those stairs, you shiver over how far humanity has reached.
The cultural value of that place is outstanding.
Beautiful place. When you are there and imagine how many people steped on those stairs, you shiver over how far humanity has reached.
The cultural value of that place is outstanding.
Dude, it's time to stop doubling down, read the room, and just make an exit. Maybe there was some miscommunication, but you've made your opinion known.
I'm not going to quote and draw attention to them, but anyone drawing comparisons to other tragic events... please don't. We don't need a tragic oneupmanship game going on to satisfy anyone's sense of nationalism or ego. Notre Dame is burning, and that's a sentence I couldn't have imagined typing this morning. It's a tragedy happening in this moment.
I've been there, it was a neat building. I'm atheist and buildings like this that perpetuate religion bother me in some ways. I don't care about any of it other than it was a massive beautiful structure. I won't shit on people who want to grieve, but I do think that perspective needs to be given with regard to those saying it was this massive religious loss for Paris, when Paris is one of the most irreligious cities in the entire world. I am not French though, so that's all I'll say about it.
So you don't see any error in shitting all over peoples feelings about a priceless piece of history and culture now being gone?
Last thought - this is woefully void of understanding the humanities and the idea of sacred spaces. That building is France, friend. She is the wrapping of theology and empire, of literature and beauty, that echoes from our past into today.
She is a building of breathtaking human achievement tied to an era when humans shouldn't have been able to make it. Yet we did, and we dedicated it to God.
It is not replaceable. Please have some empathy.
"Couldn't"
At least get the saying right if you're going to go out like that.
On topic, I hate this. The wife and I had this on our list of places to go bucket list wise, it will stay on the list in the hopes that they restore it. It's going to be one heck of an endeavor. Glad to see people are safe. Hope all the firefighters get through the end safely.
Oh wow, awesome news if true!
