I'm legit damn near crying right now. This is not just a building. This is so much more. So much.
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Fire breaks out at Notre Dame cathedral, developing situation [Update: major structural collapse - Art and other Assets Saved] (See Staff Post)
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This is a 5th grade level take on entropy in the universe.
People are not rational and they will always have emotional reactions to events that happen. Pointing that out isn't insightful, it is just being a smarmy shithead.
This is a 5th grade level take on entropy in the universe.
People are not rational and they will always have emotional reactions to events that happen. Pointing that out isn't insightful, it is just being a smarmy shithead.
Last post about it. I think it's tragic just not something France can't come back from. I'll leave the thread now. Sorry for upsetting people. I was only trying to say that the future can be much brighter than what we witnessed today. Obviously I did a bad job getting the point across. Goodbye.
wow...my condolences to all who love that cathedral.
Was this the one that was sorta held up by all kinds of tacked on internal and external buttresses? I was watching a show about it ( I think it was this ) and if so, fears of a total loss must be considered? what's left may be so unstable..shocking to see this
Was this the one that was sorta held up by all kinds of tacked on internal and external buttresses? I was watching a show about it ( I think it was this ) and if so, fears of a total loss must be considered? what's left may be so unstable..shocking to see this
I can imagine you going to funerals and casually saying "We're all gonna die eventually..." to people.
Cause that's what you are doing here, just on a different level.
Nothing has made me blatantly say holy shit out loud at work in awhile.. but this did.
I'm trying to figure out what sort of conspiracy theory could exist already? burning down your centuries old national monument for the insurance money like it's some failing pub
"a bad job" is underselling how awful of a job it was, learn some empathy before posting in threads like this
Seems so, but I fear what the scaffolding collapse could cause...
No you didn't. Your words were shitting on others who were affected by it. You stated "they're just buildings" and comparing it to 9/11. Come on dude. Whatever "good" intentions you had vanished and turned to shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRXqiJe3bXs&feature=youtu.be
this youtube livechat is spamming "F" in the chat, it gave me a bit of a chuckle during this terrible time
this youtube livechat is spamming "F" in the chat, it gave me a bit of a chuckle during this terrible time
Currently it's believed to have been an accident from the renovation.
But man, imagine being that man that caused the accident. The guilt must be tremendous.
When your house is burning, and all your possessions are going down in flames, I hope a stranger comes to you, and says "Imagine how cool your new house can be. Think of 9/11 man"
Same. I have to stop looking and go back to work. Ugh.
Chi town, thanks for posting those photos. I'll post some of my own later tonight, but they're not as well lit.
Why are there members here that act like uncultured shut-ins and seem to have little to no empathy or understanding for the PRICELESS VALUE of Notre Dame.
I think we should not be comparing it, stop minimizing it, stop trivializing it, stop neutralizing it, stop accelerating people's emotions to the rebuilding phase.
I think we should not be comparing it, stop minimizing it, stop trivializing it, stop neutralizing it, stop accelerating people's emotions to the rebuilding phase.
I swear, every time I see world heritage natural or man-made being destroyed, I die a little inside...
The stone is superheated right now, which means that it's threatening to crack and explode.
It's like a massive fire pit right now - much harder to put out because of the stone.
With fire safety regulations the way they are, if this was an accident, it was an accident caused by wilful and historically flagrant negligence that would probably land everyone remotely involved in jail.
The number of legally required safety precautions that would have to be ignored to result in this are so many, there's really not that much distance between this accident and an actual arson.
Woah, legit looks like something from Bloodborne or DS. Fucking shame to lose the 3 Rose Windows. Not sure if they were even original but they were a work of art.
Don't quit your day job and become a grief counselor, as you are absolutely terrible at it. You don't try and give people hope while it's still burning, give people some time to grieve.
Yeah I was sure that would be crushed when the spire fell.
The drone footage actually is maybe a glimmer of hope?
Obviously this is really tragic and people should be allowed to mourn as much as they want to, but as I understand it most of what has been damaged so far has only existed since the 19th century. It has been rebuilt before and (so far) can be again. It's important to remember that right now; that one day this day will be an important part in the history of an important monument and we were all alive for that.
That's how I'm comforting myself for now, at least.
That's how I'm comforting myself for now, at least.
I'll add a couple of my own pictures in honor of this great piece of history and architecture.
I am blessed to have visited Notre Dame twice, first as a boy at 16 and then again, at 46, this past October. I'm not a religious person and I've been to many churches and cathedrals in my life but it is hard to describe just how magical Notre Dame was. The play of light, a purple glow punctuated by a soft yellow from the chandeliers, is absolutely stunning. My picture doesn't catch it fully, but:
There are other pictures in my blog entry for the day (past the Louvre pictures) at http://www.bigweathergames.com/?p=5655. No ads, etc. on the site, just my personal travel blog in case someone wanted to see more pictures or read my thoughts.
There are other pictures in my blog entry for the day (past the Louvre pictures) at http://www.bigweathergames.com/?p=5655. No ads, etc. on the site, just my personal travel blog in case someone wanted to see more pictures or read my thoughts.
If you look at the drone photo, you can see roof structure burning on top of the existing vaults. The main issue is the heat - temperatures get so high and even stone construction will eventually collapse, like it happened with the central spire. Furthermore, the bells are carried by wooden construction and firefighters' main focus now is stopping the fire in the northern bell tower because if that bell falls down, it will destroy stone walls and possibly collapse northern belfry.
This is incredibly sad. I thought when I heard this news initially that the fire would eventually become under control. Seeing that drone shot from above, it looks like the entire building will collapse.
Damn, always sad to see landmarks getting destroyed.
Wow, after the first pics/vids I thought they could handle the situation quickly and that there only is limited damage. Structural damage is easier to fix than the loss of all the woodwork and paintings.
Jesus, this is hellish.
Wow, after the first pics/vids I thought they could handle the situation quickly and that there only is limited damage. Structural damage is easier to fix than the loss of all the woodwork and paintings.
Thing is, old buildings like this often get a pass when it comes to regulations because there's simply not much that can be done to make them safer, because of how they're built.
An unmitigated act of cultural vandalism if it's anything other than an a tragic accident of circumstance. This is really upsetting.
The building is gone. France should left it at ruins like others historic monuments/buildings