Ok we get it you don't believe they were real. For many(including myself) they were symbols of an act of love.
I wasn't being facetious.
I'm in shock such an historic monument is burning. I'll probably boot up AC Unity later on.
FFS, you must feel so smart.
holy shit....Can't find a primary source, but they've almost certainly melted :(
This is awful, really sounds like they are saving what they can from the inside and going to let the rest burn itself out. Hard to believe it'll be just gone but it sounds like they don't really have a choice.
I'd go as far as to say European identity. I'm gutted and I'm none of those three thingsWhat a huge blow to Parisian, French, and Catholic identity :(
Accident
I heard most of it was lost, but not from any confirmed source just rumblings on the internet.
I think you can be at a bit more ease. The burning of the Libraries of Alexandria was awful because back then, documentation wasn't as widespread and the library had some world exclusive tomes and knowledge. That was a real loss of history. Notre Dame's history, relics, artifacts etc. have been documented by now well over a couple of decades and the knowledge is stored all across the world. The only loss here is the physical building which is sad on its own, but not a tragedy in the same sense.
It sucks, but it isn't the end for Notre Dames history. I think we will see a restoration program in due time where we will see it rebuilt to the smallest detail.
As a fellow atheist, this. It's not hard to not be an asshole, and there is no reason to take this as an opportunity to preach atheism (yes, the wording choice is intentional, enjoy it Bernard Coleslaw).Can we respect faith of others for a moment? I say that as an atheist.
Didn't realize this thread was made exclusively to make people "feel better." The poster felt like reflecting on the fragility of life. All and all a pretty vanilla opinion to call someone a cunt over.
none of those were real, probably, as relics are almost never real - and in any case should have no faith value, since catholics are supposed not to be idolaters. the real loss is all the art. THAT is real and irreplaceable...
Damn thats horrible.Paris police reporting there have been no deaths or injuries so far, thankfully.
The going theory right now is that it was an accident caused by a 6 million Euro restoration.
Trying to fight it more aggressively would unfortunately risk even more damage. Those stones are obscenely hot right now and water could cause even more significant structural damage to the walls etc.This is awful, really sounds like they are saving what they can from the inside and going to let the rest burn itself out. Hard to believe it'll be just gone but it sounds like they don't really have a choice.
The artefacts existed, that they were the real ones is irrelevant, the artefacts existed, they were shown to the people on special occasions.
It's a loss to the catholic people.
Damn, this is awful. Those stained glass windows were beautiful.Can't find a primary source, but they've almost certainly melted :(
I'd go as far as to say European identity. I'm gutted and I'm none of those three things
You don't get to decide what other people valuenone of those were real, probably, as relics are almost never real - and in any case should have no faith value, since catholics are supposed not to be idolaters. the real loss is all the art. THAT is real and irreplaceable...
Sad to see something so beautiful and historic on fire, I'm also sad about the hate and violence that will come as a result of this.
I mean, this is a world landmark. It goes beyond Europe. I'm devastated and I'm an American :(
Yes of course and it will take decades to rebuild thisI'd assume this cathedral, like many other buildings, has been thoroughly 3d mapped from every angle, so that with as much will have been lost, they can at least rebuild the structure identically?
This has be very scared that it'll eventually give and cause even more damage. It's amazing that it's still standing, here's hoping it'll stay like so.
Assholes using being atheists for their excuse to be assholes, nothing more. Sucks for the majority of us who aren't... but every group has them.Ugh I wanted to go to Paris for the first time in a year. This is crushing :( Not sure why anyone would be celebrating this, I'm as atheist as they come but cathedrals are beautiful structures