Yes of course, next one should be a remake I think.Are we thinking we'll get another Fire Emblem on the Switch? There's usually at least 2-3 years between mainline entires right?
Yes of course, next one should be a remake I think.Are we thinking we'll get another Fire Emblem on the Switch? There's usually at least 2-3 years between mainline entires right?
I'd be shocked if there isn't at least one more.Are we thinking we'll get another Fire Emblem on the Switch? There's usually at least 2-3 years between mainline entires right?
Well, IS' situation in general is a complete mystery right now since we don't know what most of their staff is apparently working on.Are we thinking we'll get another Fire Emblem on the Switch? There's usually at least 2-3 years between mainline entires right?
I'd wager we're getting at least two more; Three Billboards on Tellius was practically screaming "this will be the template for a Seisen remake!" at times, plus we normally get two original games per console at minimum. The only exceptions to this, at least for consoles that received a Fire Emblem game (see: not the N64, Game Boy Color unless you count that unofficial bootleg on the GBC) were the Gamecube (Path of Radiance), Wii (Radiant Dawn) DS (both remakes) and Wii U (do we count #FE?). Given Fire Emblem's current success, the Switch being as hot a console as it is, Three Little Pigs' making record sales and the lack of another console for Intelligent Systems to develop for (Three Houses did start out on the 3DS, after all), I doubt we're going to see a repeat of the 00s console era.Are we thinking we'll get another Fire Emblem on the Switch? There's usually at least 2-3 years between mainline entires right?
Source for that?
Using Google Translate so I may be misunderstanding it/GT might have mistranslated the article but here: https://www.4gamer.net/games/423/G042326/20190716108/Source for that?
Iirc IS started a game for 3DS but it was on the 3DS engine and it was cancelled by Nintendo
4Gamer: When did the project start?
Yokota: It's difficult to tell when it started, but I was thinking about the new project itself before the development of "FE Echoes".
4Gamer: At that point, was the next story about Nintendo Switch?
Yokota: The first plan was for Nintendo 3DS. After that, I decided to make "FE Echoes" with 3DS, and was temporarily put on hold. At the timing when the development of "FE Echoes" reached the middle stage, I moved on to planning again. It is a flow. It was around the time of the release of "FE Echoes" that the team was organized and started production.
They say plan tho, planning and development arent exactly the same thing.Using Google Translate so I may be misunderstanding it/GT might have mistranslated the article but here: https://www.4gamer.net/games/423/G042326/20190716108/
As I understand it, the main reason they stopped development for Three Houses on the 3DS was because of Shadows of Valentia. It sounds like it was pretty early on given he can't recall exactly when (there's another interview where he says it was right after Fates was finished), but I digress.
How do exactly weapons work? Like I k ow that there are clasiffied according to their ranks, but I dont know of I have to make my characters use the best weapon possible according to its rank, or if I just have to stick with the personal weapons (which seems to have more slots than regular weapons)
I figured people in here might be interested to hear that Berwick Saga (from the creator of our lovely FE franchise) has been translated. I made a thread about this, but it's easy to miss and the game deserves some attention!
Also Lucina's in-game Awakening birthday.Wait Fire Emblem anniversary is the same day as Hitler's and the same day as weed day? I swear april 20th is the most prolific day of the year.
Lucina is literally Hitler
The same could be said for a vast majority of plot points and devices in any game not just Fire emblem. There are many games that contain mature, dark, taboo themes. How do you think stories are developed during the creative process, especially in one like fire emblem? Finding inspiration from history/ historical accounts.I'm not sure you're aware of this but Fire Emblem is not history; Intelligent Systems chose to use it as a plot point when they could have used just about any other method to showcase how evil the villains were. Just because they included something that happened in the real world doesn't somehow justify its inclusion nor is it a defense for the execution of said inclusion, especially when it's intertwined with Deirdre's lack of agency within the story.
P.S. Attributing all of Fire Emblem: Seisen No Keifu's qualities, positive or otherwise, to Kaga alone does a disservice to the many other people who worked on that game, be it Gunpei Yokoi, Tohru Narihiro or other staff members of Intelligent Systems, former or current. If you'd like to discuss this further, we can do so in the appropriate thread because i'd prefer not to derail this any further than to say that Three Houses always gave me the impression that they were going to remake Seisen No Keifu shortly afterwards, be it once the DLC was wrapped up or working on the two at the same time.
Well, this is a hell of a swerve dragging a conversation in from the Three Houses OT. But based on your comment, you sound like one of those Kaga worshippers that think the series is just unilaterally worse without him regardless.The same could be said for a vast majority of plot points and devices in any game not just Fire emblem. There are many games that contain mature, dark, taboo themes. How do you think stories are developed during the creative process, especially in one like fire emblem? Finding inspiration from history/ historical accounts.
But before I go any further. For the sake of seriousness. I will ask this only once.
Is this post of yours serious or in jest?
your answer will decide whether I continue or just stop right here.
I'm leaning towards the latter atm.
And to give you a freebie. Fire emblem has not been the same since Kaga left. For worse imo. Only Tellius can stand proud but even that game has its issues. I enjoy TH for example but there are too many issues that I feel that hurt the game a lot that could have been avoided if...
Well that's enough for now.
Ok Superboy Prime.And to give you a freebie. Fire emblem has not been the same since Kaga left. For worse imo. Only Tellius can stand proud but even that game has its issues. I enjoy TH for example but there are too many issues that I feel that hurt the game a lot that could have been avoided if...
Well that's enough for now.
Not a worshipper. It's just... I miss good, well written stories with villains that are believable and competent. That and well I'm not really a fan of Waifu Emblem as it currently is now. It can be more. Fire emblem should strive for more. Yet now it undeniably caters to waifu fools for better or worse since awakening.Well, this is a hell of a swerve dragging a conversation in from the Three Houses OT. But based on your comment, you sound like one of those Kaga worshippers that think the series is just unilaterally worse without him regardless.
Let it go. He's never returning to the series and he only has himself to blame after setting every bridge between himself and Nintendo/IS on fire in a fit of brazen stupidity.
Didn't I say I disliked Gaiden? Not everyone has a spotless record and Kaga sure as hell ain't spotless. Disliked Gaiden. I also got beef with him on mystery of the emblem though I did enjoy the game regardless. I enjoyed all games except gaiden/echoes, FE7.
I see. A troll. My first impression was the correct one after all.
You're the troll insulting fans for their preferences and an unwillingness to see positive aspects of the later games. Like, you can't expect to be taken seriously id you put Three Houses on the same level as Fates. You're just being aggressive and ridiculous for the sake of it.Not a worshipper. It's just... I miss good, well written stories with villains that are believable and competent. That and well I'm not really a fan of Waifu Emblem as it currently is now. It can be more. Fire emblem should strive for more. Yet now it undeniably caters to waifu fools for better or worse since awakening.
Worse, same fools defend their waifus regardless of optics or facts. So discourse sucks. Fates and TH are especially guilty of this. Less discourse about plot and more about waifus. Its honestly sickening.
Didn't I say I disliked Gaiden? Not everyone has a spotless record and Kaga sure as hell ain't spotless. Disliked Gaiden. I also got beef with him on mystery of the emblem though I did enjoy the game regardless. I enjoyed all games except gaiden/echoes, FE7
I see. A troll. My first impression was the correct one after all.
No point discussing further.
The reason "the discourse sucks" is because of people like you; you are demonstrably not interested in a discussion, you just want to rant about The Good Ol' Days™. You started this all by talking about how you wish Kaga would be a part of a Seisen No Keifu remake since you don't trust modern Intelligent Systems to handle it properly.Not a worshipper. It's just... I miss good, well written stories with villains that are believable and competent. That and well I'm not really a fan of Waifu Emblem as it currently is now. It can be more. Fire emblem should strive for more. Yet now it undeniably caters to waifu fools for better or worse since awakening.
Worse, same fools defend their waifus regardless of optics or facts. So discourse sucks. Fates and TH are especially guilty of this. Less discourse about plot and more about waifus. Its honestly sickening.
Didn't I say I disliked Gaiden? Not everyone has a spotless record and Kaga sure as hell ain't spotless. Disliked Gaiden. I also got beef with him on mystery of the emblem though I did enjoy the game regardless. I enjoyed all games except gaiden/echoes, FE7
I see. A troll. My first impression was the correct one after all.
No point discussing further.
Alright I'll bite.You're the troll insulting fans for their preferences and an unwillingness to see positive aspects of the later games. Like, you can't expect to be taken seriously id you put Three Houses on the same level as Fates. You're just being aggressive and ridiculous for the sake of it.
Claiming "waifuism" isn't even an argument. That's not a character analysis. That's thoughtless nonsense.Alright I'll bite.
Three Houses suffers from waifuism the same as fates and awakening. We ain't talking gameplay here. The story is much stronger than fates but the waifuism that plagues fates remains ever present in three houses. This you are not able to deny. Especially as it's unavoidable when the protagonist is once again an avatar player. Three Houses is a step in the right direction but there are certain things that still hurt it. By no means am I saying three houses is a bad game. That's a notion that you somehow came up with for w/e reason. But there are certain flaws that can't be ignored that hurt the game.
How the villains are handled. How the motivations vs character choices match. Why did X character did this or that. And ofc the blatant waifuism.
If you're gonna defend why TWSITD just sat on their ass for most of part 2 was good writing well good luck with that. There's a huge difference between sitting patiently in the throne room in a castle waiting for your big confrontation against the protagonist and his/her friends vs being able to nuke someone at any time with near impunity the moment they're outside Garrech Mach Monastery.
With the former you can make the argument that as a king/Queen/emperor/empress/etc that said ruler or person with authority has to well... Administer said authority. Why do you think a ruler appoints generals? Because a ruler literally has better things to do such as rule their nation. Could said Commander in chief be more proactive? Absolutely. But would that also be abandoning their duty as sovereign to play war games? Equally valid as well. Whether that's right or wrong can be up for interpretation but at minimum it wouldn't be bad writing.
What's bad writing is having confirmed that Byleth is alive and well post timeskip and letting that person walk free when you can snipe the poor sod with javelins of light whenever they leave Garrech Mach. Having ample time (months) to do so as well. Great bridge of myrdinn. Arianrhod. Gronder field. Enbarr. Fhirdiad. Any bloody skirmish on the side where Byleth leaves Garrech mach. And proceed to do nothing. when TWSITD specialize in secrecy and espionage so they aren't lacking for spies that can inform them of Byleth's whereabouts.
And thats just one of many issues I take with three houses. Still a fantastic game and I will defend it. But I will not be blind to it's problems and it does has some problems.
Ofc anyone who has seen me point this out already in the TH thread would already know this. It's an old beaten horse.
I will ignore your slander about trolling. You are misunderstanding my intention and hopefully you will understand me better after reading this post. If not... A shame but oh well.
Ftr because apparently I'm being misunderstood here, I enjoy all but gaiden/echoes and FE7.
Yes that means I also like fates. Yes, All three routes even. I'm probably the only one on this forum who will defend conquest's plot as well the decision to make revelations the canon route/having a Canon route. Such is the pains of being a fire emblem lunatic. Even more so when I have to replay the games that I don't like just to remind myself why I don't like it *looks at gaiden/FE7*
Well do you recall anyone like say... Camilla in previous FE games before fates for example? I sure as heck don't. A character who fawns and panders to the player avatar specifically and is well... Overbearing regardless of relation? Don't get me wrong. I like Camilla but I can't ignore that she is waifubait. Heck she was most recently voted #1 in a FEH survey as "the hero you wish were your sibling." That made me cringe. Especially since I know she was a popular s rank support in fates. I doubt the people who voted in that survey genuinely wanted her as a proper sister. These cats got ulterior, degenerate motives. Ftr when I say waifu emblem I refer to Awakening - Three Houses. Let's get that outta the way.Claiming "waifuism" isn't even an argument. That's not a character analysis. That's thoughtless nonsense.
TWSITD take a back seat for most of the second half, true, but it's not like Thales can just launch javelins with impunity. They're physical weapons and, as far as we know, there's a finite stock of them and so they have to be selective with their targets. Yes, even if that means not killing Byleth from orbit at Garreg Mach, because they can't be sure that plan would even work, and they don't want to attract any more attention to themselves than necessary. How this is somehow more egregious than the chain of poor decisions Corrin makes in Fates that are only absolved because the plot dictates they never suffer for mistakes they make, I have no idea, because your defense of Fates is literally "I like Fates."
Which is fine. You can like Fates. But you aren't arguing anything particular in its favor.
And it's not like there wouldn't be waifu wars over characters in a Genealogy remake regardless.
Camilla has no connection to Three Houses, which had completely different character designers and different writing teams. You're not making any convincing arguments here. The only thing you're really doing is muddling your argument when you're trying to paint Three Houses characterization with the same brush as Fates. You're also ignoring the existence of Shadows of Valentia in between Fates and Three Houses. Yes, it's a remake, and you stated before you don't like it, but again, it also isn't Fates in terms of its writing or characters.Well do you recall anyone like say... Camilla in previous FE games before fates for example? I sure as heck don't. A character who fawns and panders to the player avatar specifically and is well... Overbearing regardless of relation? Don't get me wrong. I like Camilla but I can't ignore that she is waifubait. Heck she was most recently voted #1 in a FEH survey as "the hero you wish were your sibling." That made me cringe. Especially since I know she was a popular s rank support in fates. I doubt the people who voted in that survey genuinely wanted her as a proper sister. These cats got ulterior, degenerate motives. Ftr when I say waifu emblem I refer to Awakening - Three Houses. Let's get that outta the way.
Oh that's right. I made the fate arguments in the old forum all those years ago. Fine I'll repost. I always took conquest as "what if Camus was your older stepbrother and you decided to stick with the family you grew up with because that Camus archetype rubbed off on you and well you grew up with said family". It's not unreasonable. Hell it's understandable. It is as Kamui/Corrin says. He doesn't want to raise his sword against the only family that he grew up with. For the sake of family, Many people do questionable things and history is full of examples of this. I really appreciated the Camus angle in the conquest story. Loyalty to your nation, regardless of the ruler in charge will inevitably have you do things you will not be proud of. Even if you are against war, you are still a knight or in this case a prince/princess of Nohr. I saw a lot of Camus in Xander. So that helped a lot.
Conquest actually plays out pretty well a what if scenario I've always thought about since knowing Camus of Grust. And the story was pretty good despite Azura plot choices. I really liked the reveal of Garon in the throne room. Played out exactly as I expected it would. Was the predictable? Probably. And that's perfectly fine if it is done well. I thought it was done well. Though I doubt many saw "I AM BETRAYAL" coming. Not like that anyways.
I like and dislike the player avatar concept. On one hand a customized unit that you can train to tailor to your stragetic needs. On the other hand, shipping and waifuism may hurt the story and hurt the characters. Can make a character a one note personality which is not okay in a game like Fire Emblem. A character should not almost completely revolve around the player avatar or be a one trick personality. Tharja, Camilla comes into mind. Edelgard as well to an extent. Especially considering how almost everyone in TH metaphorically prostrates/wanks over Byleth in time which is the result of Byleth being the player avatar.
I have more thoughts but.. I'll stop here for now. But for those who are willing to answer, who are your top 3 villains in Fire Emblem excluding TH? For me it's in this order: Lekain, Arvis, Gharnef.
So you're going to just ignore the cons that the player avatar brings into the plot. The fates petting feature(replaced with blowing air to your s rank waifu/husbando in America), the swimsuits, bikinis, awakening's swimsuit dlc, the three houses tea time where you can stare, glance, literally gawk at your waifu? The maid/butler outfits where you can now train your waifu/husbando to be a good, submissive servant/waifu/husbando?Camilla has no connection to Three Houses, which had completely different character designers and different writing teams. You're not making any convincing arguments here. The only thing you're really doing is muddling your argument when you're trying to paint Three Houses characterization with the same brush as Fates. You're also ignoring the existence of Shadows of Valentia in between Fates and Three Houses. Yes, it's a remake, and you stated before you don't like it, but again, it also isn't Fates in terms of its writing or characters.
You're not supposed to take that seriously and be quiet about it. In fact your reaction is the correct one. What else does a soldier or in this case a prince can do when he does something he doesn't like or think is right? He tries to convince himself that this is war. That justice is an illusion. Or some come up with some other kind of bs excuse to justify himself to his own conscious. How many people who have seen war and did questionable things said something similar to themselves? War sucks. Even worse when war crimes are committed. Xander may have been prince but that prince still answers to a king who is higher up the chain of command. And the king overruled him often in conquest in case you don't remember that well. It's not right and its not justifiable. But it happens all the same.I still can't get over Xander having the gall to say "this war isn't simply black or white" after Nohr's forces had committed various war crimes like the slaughter of innocent civilians (many of whom were children). Say what you want about Birthright's generally average storytelling, it isn't intellectually insulting with its pretentious dialogue about the consequences of war (which has been done better by the likes of Shadow Dragon and the Sacred Stones) or contrivances like the crystal that reveals Garon's true form.
Fuck male Pegasus Knights. Men aren't good enough for that role.FE as a game has been sexist since Kaga, it has gender locked classes still for who knows what reason
Funny enough Fates was the first, and only, game that did away with gender locked classes. I guess there is still the dlc but for the most part it was a step in the right direction in that aspect that 3H unfortunately reversed
Indeed, it is one of the most idiotic choices they made. Lysithea is one of the most proficient magic units in the entire game, and I can't turn her into a dark mage? Like, what the hell?Three House's gender-locked classes are especially odd when you consider they decided to make the dancer class gender neutral (and I don't count bard or other male equivalents of that class, the dancer has been exclusive to women throughout the series) but Pegasus Knights, Heros, Gremory, etc. assigned to men or women, which also has implications in regards to gender identity in that game.
So I can be a manly dancer but a Gremory can't be a man striking a pose? Pah!
Which is to say nothing of how many of those women are characterized/treated in their respective games i.e. Leila in Fire Emblem being fridged, literally everything involving Deirdre in Seisen No Keifu, etc.Indeed, it is one of the most idiotic choices they made. Lysithea is one of the most proficient magic units in the entire game, and I can't turn her into a dark mage? Like, what the hell?
Also, yes, Fire Emblem is quite sexist. Ignoring avatars, how many female lords are in the series? Or actually, the one and only lord in the entire game.
That's not Rekka no Ken, Fuinn No Tsurugi or Thracia 776.