Unless the generally low resistance of enemy units has been changed in "Maddening"/they just hit that hard, I don't see how Lysithea doesn't help carry players through the early chapters (assuming this is for a NG+ playthrough for recruitment purposes on all but the Blue Lions path given Dedue's praise; BL is the only path i've yet to touch).
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I can't remember if there is a reason by why is Claudes bed bigger then the rest of the students?
Damn i had to sacrifice Lys and Marianne in the first maddening fght.
Weird because in an earlier try Dedue could not double her. Maybe she happened to get 1 spd to prevent the double which allowed her to survive one extra turn. In any case ch 1 done.
Also I think it would be even harder if i tried to engage both houses. I just took the left path and poked at dorothea to bait her and edel, then used the healing pad to engage the blue lions. And finally just baited hanneman with claude
Weird because in an earlier try Dedue could not double her. Maybe she happened to get 1 spd to prevent the double which allowed her to survive one extra turn. In any case ch 1 done.
Also I think it would be even harder if i tried to engage both houses. I just took the left path and poked at dorothea to bait her and edel, then used the healing pad to engage the blue lions. And finally just baited hanneman with claude
I'm so tempted of doing a Maddening run with no NG+ but I'm also more interested in being able to do all the support conversations during my BL run.
Aaah :(
Aaah :(
I think you CAN do it with no NG+ benefits but I don't know how much harder Maddening is and I don't wanna outright make it impossible for me lol
(By all I mean the Houses support and whoever I decide to recruit, not actually ALL, btw).
What if we get a story expansion dlc about the 5 years war? I'd be soooooo down for that!
Did you manage to save Dedue who tried to bum rush the throne? Dedue was doing fine in my game until like 3 mages went up to him and killed him in one turn.
Disappointed to read that maddening is that difficult. We all love a challenge, but there is a fine line between something being challenging and something becoming downright tedious.
I hope this is just a case of early game hell, but damn...
I hope this is just a case of early game hell, but damn...
I expect Maddening will get more reasonable a ways in; part of what broke Normal/Hard was the amount of flexibility in character builds+opportunities to train+battalions/equipment/etc, and the first few chapters all of that is very limited. By midgame you have a squad that's much more capable all around.
Proper balancing shall account to that. I'm pretty sure Maddening is name-deserving. It's the difficulty for those who won't shut-up about how easy the Hard mode is 🤷♀️
On a side note, I love how they casually added a bunch of new ??? in the Event viewer that will require 20+ playthroughs to fill 💁♀️
There are indeed four routes, but none is the 'definitive' path.
Dang, it sounds like they jumped over the difficulty sweetspot of Conquest Hard and went straight for Conquest Lunatic levels of suffering.
As long as Maddening isn't bogged down by a bunch of same-turn reinforcements though, I'll probably still have a great time with it. I'm definitely excited to see battlefield decisions carry more weight.
As long as Maddening isn't bogged down by a bunch of same-turn reinforcements though, I'll probably still have a great time with it. I'm definitely excited to see battlefield decisions carry more weight.
The last few chapters of each of the routes are where the train falls off the tracks and where you have to make some leaps of judgement.
The impression I get is that the invasion of Enbarr is basically Claude partaking in the idea that the war is over the minute they take over the capital and head of state. Edelgard is going to fight to the death so a prolonged war isn't going to really work without a lot of people suffering. She's not going to throw down her weapons because people are starving.
You answered your own question really, the game often presents Edelgard as so ruthless, unreasonable and desperate to win that she's more than willing to commit pain and suffering to her own people if it will give her an edge. By contrast, it makes the lord that you've chosen to support as being forced to take drastic measures...essentially it's a "you've done this evil thing so therefore we're in the clear to do XYZ".
I don't really like this type of storytelling because it's basically punching down and basically concluding "well, look at what you made us do it's your fault that we had to kill your civilians because you refused to let them leave". A conversation between Dimitri and Edelgard is another route has similar issues where they punch down Edelgard by having her respond like a complete idiot (while in the process have Dimitri sound like a dude with zero nuanced political thought)
The biggest success of the game is the character progression via things like support system (vs. say Fates or Awakening where characters are stagnant) and characters continuing to interact with the plot well after their recruitment. The actual political and ethical aspect of the game is pretty naive, simplistic and not particularly well fleshed out.
The impression I get is that the invasion of Enbarr is basically Claude partaking in the idea that the war is over the minute they take over the capital and head of state. Edelgard is going to fight to the death so a prolonged war isn't going to really work without a lot of people suffering. She's not going to throw down her weapons because people are starving.
You answered your own question really, the game often presents Edelgard as so ruthless, unreasonable and desperate to win that she's more than willing to commit pain and suffering to her own people if it will give her an edge. By contrast, it makes the lord that you've chosen to support as being forced to take drastic measures...essentially it's a "you've done this evil thing so therefore we're in the clear to do XYZ".
I don't really like this type of storytelling because it's basically punching down and basically concluding "well, look at what you made us do it's your fault that we had to kill your civilians because you refused to let them leave". A conversation between Dimitri and Edelgard is another route has similar issues where they punch down Edelgard by having her respond like a complete idiot (while in the process have Dimitri sound like a dude with zero nuanced political thought)
The biggest success of the game is the character progression via things like support system (vs. say Fates or Awakening where characters are stagnant) and characters continuing to interact with the plot well after their recruitment. The actual political and ethical aspect of the game is pretty naive, simplistic and not particularly well fleshed out.
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Man if there's extra reinforcements in maddening then I can only imagine that
Seiros is gonna bring two maps worth of reinforcements with her lmao
Byleth looks like such a nerd with his house lounge wear and glasses. So, much better than his regular flappy sleeves look.
Whoah wait. Where does Id (Purpose) and Conquest (Ablaze) play in the game?
Very curious to see what has been revised.
pls buy the amiibo and line Nintendo's pockets.
This is dope :O
I also noticed even after playing all the routes I still have a few tracks that are locked. I'm pretty sure I played all of the paralogues too so I wonder which songs I'm missing and why.
Maddening is.. well.. maddening. I'm 54 turns into ch 2, with no heals and like 2 uses of vulneraly, trying to figure out how to bait the last swordman. i truly hope the boss doenst move with the swordman
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64 fucking turns
what the fuck
only used divine pulse to fix 2 misses but still
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64 fucking turns
what the fuck
only used divine pulse to fix 2 misses but still
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I figured those would just be added as you unlocke them as ???? implies that it's part of the game and it hasnt been discovered yet. Oh well
Wait, there are amiibo unlockable soundtracks? Seriously? Booooo.
Maddening Endgame enemy stats for BE-C route
Look at those Gremory and FKnight stats, holy shit.
Look at those Gremory and FKnight stats, holy shit.
Maddening Endgame enemy stats for BE-C route
Look at those Gremory and FKnight stats, holy shit.
The Weapon Triangle and strong-against combat arts are going to be a lot more important.
I'm adoring the game yet still fairly early 16 hours in with the Golden Deer and on the 8th month. I'm already thinking about doing a second run with another house after I'm done with the Golden Deer. I'm Boyleth (male Byleth) right now but the second run will star Bylass. I do have one question about Bylass, or female Byleth's design and this is a really stupid observational question. Why does she have her belly button exposed? She has a cool design for the most part but her belly button being shown while walking in public looks dumb and unprofessional for a newly anointed professor. Is she trying to mimic 1993 Box art Doom Guy's design where he has his abs and belly exposed for no good reason?
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Have you seen Manuela's outfit? i don't think anyone in the monastery cares about Byleth showing her belly button lol, also if you have the DLC you can give her a proper uniform and glasses so she looks more like a professor.
That's what I thought too but I dunno. Or maybe there are special music tracks in some Paralogues you didn't do?
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Yup. Booooo.
So, I think Maddening might be really... bad? There's no new restrictions in place for grinding, and the grinding levels are unchanged from Hard (I think), so a bunch of the game time is spent doing dumb grinding against really easy enemies so you can sort of keep up with the giant statblock enemies.
gtfoh maddening stats only my F!Byleth from my GD run can handle these ****s as I had every stat but def & res 50 or above (str hitting 60s+). looks like maddening gonna force me to soft reset every chapter just to get 5-6+ lvlup farming on byleth ****.Maddening Endgame enemy stats for BE-C route
Look at those Gremory and FKnight stats, holy shit.
Mind blown that The Sword of the Creator is made from Sothis bones and heart, as well that all the Hero's Relics are made from her children.
Really horrific stuff, though I don't understand why Rhea kept the crest society and elite worship in place.
Really horrific stuff, though I don't understand why Rhea kept the crest society and elite worship in place.
I kinda like that you have to play through all routes to get the bigger picture, though it's a bit disappointing how similar the Golden Deer and Silver Snow route are.
It's really ironic that the descendants from the 10 elites are the ones protecting the church and Rhea, while the descendants of those gifted by the four saints and Seiros tries to overthrow it.
Remind me again why...
Gronder Field isn't in Edelgard's route. It would've made a great first chapter to reintroduce the other lords and set up the takedown of the Alliance. Especially given how both Claude and Dimitri are only in one chapter each. Just played through it on Verdant Wind and it was brutal. It would've been awesome to play the reunion from Edelgard's perspective.
Enemy levels are higher, exp gain is significantly cut and enemies have new skills
It's too early to say if it's great or not, but it's a big improvement from baseh ard mode
But the aux missions and sidequests missions aren't changed, so most of the battles that people spend their time playing are functionally the same, except in the different meta.
I feel like 95% of players or more are going to have a much more enjoyable time on Hard. This is a super niche difficulty level.
You can do aux missions and sidequests without being heinously overleveled now, which I think is a big improvement
That's kinda how it's been for a while now, good or bad difficulty
Are people on Maddening doing online or offline? Online seems like it would be a massive boost to level. At the Red Canyon and I have too many Level 1 characters that are just getting doubled relentlessly.