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hipsterpants

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Oct 25, 2017
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Even in the non Edelgard routes the recruiting is bizarre. Like why would anyone from the remaining Fhaergus territory just ditch their houses to team up with Claude? Why would Edelgard let any of the BE kids just chill in Empire territory for 5 years despite potentially fighting against her at the battle of Garreg Mach?
 

Lunar15

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Oct 25, 2017
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Other than Claude I feel Sylvain is secretly the most realist, level headed person in the whole cast. On the surface he appears to be a skirt chaser, but he really is most genuine person in the game.

There are so many times where I'm mad they tacked on his philanderer trope because other than that he has some really fantastic dialogue and is one of the stronger characters in the Blue Lions cast.
 

Guru_Godzilla

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Jul 10, 2018
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I just finished my first run with the GD. I loved the game and am itching to start my second play through already. However, I'm stuck with who to pick. I want the most out of the story since I don't think I'll play for a third time any time soon. Should I go with the BL or BE (non church route)?
 

Gunny T Highway

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There are so many times where I'm mad they tacked on his philanderer trope because other than that he has some really fantastic dialogue and is one of the stronger characters in the Blue Lions cast.
Yes plus he is one of those characters who legitimately hates what crests have done to people. But he understands it is a thing you have to deal with instead of taking drastic steps such as Edelgard to try to change the whole system.
 

Tfritz

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Oct 25, 2017
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Even in the non Edelgard routes the recruiting is bizarre. Like why would anyone from the remaining Fhaergus territory just ditch their houses to team up with Claude? Why would Edelgard let any of the BE kids just chill in Empire territory for 5 years despite potentially fighting against her at the battle of Garreg Mach?

I can see the kids leaving Fhaergus, which is in shambles by that point, and joining the Alliance Army to fight the empire. I know Ingrid specifically talks about why she did it in the Monastery.
 

Tfritz

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Leonie on Crimson Flower makes a lot of sense (her reasoning: Jeralt didn't trust Rhea) and my head canon is that Leonie always goes with Edelgard on Crimson Flower and is the reason Edelgard won't tell anyone about working with The Dubsteppers (because Leonie would put an arrow or six through her head if she found out Edelgard was working with the folks who killed Jeralt)
 

Padparadscha

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Nov 26, 2018
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They probably should have been more strict about who will stay with your house after the timeskip, but it's understandable why they didn't. Characters like Sylvain, Lysithea and Leonie staying with Edelgard is believable enough, but others like Mercedes are hard to believe(they could have actually made this work due to her brother being the Death Knight I suppose, but unfortunately he just completely disappears in the Edelgard route for some reason. Talk about a missed opportunity).
 

Psychonaut

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Jan 11, 2018
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Don't want to get political but Catherine is a fucking cop

And I love her for it. Just an unrepetant pig, despite her "cool" design

And Female FE characters are rarely this... Awful? It's an interesting subversion
I absolutely loved her and she was really high up on my list of favorite characters... until I saw her support with Caspar. It really puts into perspective just how much of a fucking cop she is. She has possibly the best design in the game (despite being at the top of the "how are they NOT queer?" pile), her VA is great, and she's an incredibly powerful unit... but man, it's impressive how much they made me dislike what should be a top-tier character.

The Lonato stuff makes sense in context but... sheesh.
 

Morlas

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Off-topic, but if you americans knew about brazilian cops you would hate cops more than you already do.

Does he really think in that route? He sounds so brainwashed that it weirds me
But I wasn't talking about him on Edelgard's route specifically though
 

spiritfox

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Oct 26, 2017
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Catharine is someone, when I started out, liked, but as I did more of her supports, found her a abhorrent zealot encapsulating the worst ideals of the church. It's pretty cool that we have this kind of character in FE, but I wish she was an antagonist in more routes.
 

NSESN

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Catherine being so weird is the reason why I feel weird about shipping her with anyone even Shamir
Luckily Shamir has a top tier support with Hubert
But I wasn't talking about him on Edelgard's route specifically though
I see, outside her route he really seems like a guy that is trying to find a purpose that isnt just killing
Catharine is someone, when I started out, liked, but as I did more of her supports, found her a abhorrent zealot encapsulating the worst ideals of the church. It's pretty cool that we have this kind of character in FE, but I wish she was an antagonist in more routes.
She and Seteth have total opposite paths for me, I started liking Catherine a lot but starting to like her less because of her way, meanwhile I expected Seteth to be the abhorrent zealot but he shows to be much better than that and showing to be the best Church loyalist with a lot of his ideals and actions going against what you expected a Rhea follower to have.
 

Basileus777

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They probably should have been more strict about who will stay with your house after the timeskip, but it's understandable why they didn't. Characters like Sylvain, Lysithea and Leonie staying with Edelgard is believable enough, but others like Mercedes are hard to believe(they could have actually made this work due to her brother being the Death Knight I suppose, but unfortunately he just completely disappears in the Edelgard route for some reason. Talk about a missed opportunity).
Gameplay reasons prevented them from having a mass exodus on route choice. I think they fudge it well enough to pass believability in most cases though.

The death knight is a missed opportunity. He should have joined you in Crimson Flower.
 

Poodlestrike

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They probably should have been more strict about who will stay with your house after the timeskip, but it's understandable why they didn't. Characters like Sylvain, Lysithea and Leonie staying with Edelgard is believable enough, but others like Mercedes are hard to believe(they could have actually made this work due to her brother being the Death Knight I suppose, but unfortunately he just completely disappears in the Edelgard route for some reason. Talk about a missed opportunity).
That would've been one way to do it, or they could've leaned into the stuff Edelgard says about the church not being the same as the faith. They'd probably need to have Mercedes/Edelgard supports for that, though.

Generally I just wish there were more inter-house supports, but I think it's especially important for the Lords, who should be pivotal characters for any recruits, but it's pretty slim pickings.
 

spiritfox

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Oct 26, 2017
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Gameplay reasons prevented them from having a mass exodus on route choice. I think they fudge it well enough to pass believability in most cases though.

The death knight is a missed opportunity. He should joined you in Crimson Flower.

They should have added someone to the roster postskip like Gilbert for BL. Death Knight for BE E obviously, but maybe lock Catherine to BE C, and add Judith to GD.
 

Basileus777

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That would've been one way to do it, or they could've leaned into the stuff Edelgard says about the church not being the same as the faith. They'd probably need to have Mercedes/Edelgard supports for that, though.

Generally I just wish there were more inter-house supports, but I think it's especially important for the Lords, who should be pivotal characters for any recruits, but it's pretty slim pickings.
It's weird when characters have a joint paralogue but no supports. Where's my Ferdinard/Lysithea support?
 

Disclaimer

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Oct 25, 2017
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They probably should have been more strict about who will stay with your house after the timeskip, but it's understandable why they didn't. Characters like Sylvain, Lysithea and Leonie staying with Edelgard is believable enough, but others like Mercedes are hard to believe(they could have actually made this work due to her brother being the Death Knight I suppose, but unfortunately he just completely disappears in the Edelgard route for some reason. Talk about a missed opportunity).

The Death Knight and Mercedes are maybe the biggest missed opportunity of a sub-plot in the entire game. The most puzzling, too.

You have this big backstory to work from there, which people speculated much better stories from pre-release. Emile's family falling out of power in his youth, his older (sister abandoning him and fleeing, him being adopted into a rival noble family because of his crest blood. Two family members in opposing factions, Mercedes' bios consistently noting how closely she observes everyone (could she be working with Emile?), the persistent presence of Jeritza pre-skip, the inevitability of an unmasking...

And then nothing. At all. The only "resolution" is a paralogue hidden behind recruiting an out-of-house student who has no supports with Mercedes, and said paralogue has little actual dialogue, and zero characterization or motivation or exposition. All it unlocks afterward is a still-obscured unmasking when he's defeated.

I just... what? Why was the Death Knight such an omnipresent boss? Why was Jeritza included at all pre-skip? Why did he wear a stupid mask? What was his dynamic with Edelgard or her cause? Why did his characterization boil down to the nothingburger of "FIGHT! KILL! TALK STILTEDLY!"

I don't understand. All I can imagine is that their sub-plot was left on the cutting room floor, along with the explanation for Dimitri's lost eye.
 

Padparadscha

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Nov 26, 2018
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That would've been one way to do it, or they could've leaned into the stuff Edelgard says about the church not being the same as the faith. They'd probably need to have Mercedes/Edelgard supports for that, though.

Generally I just wish there were more inter-house supports, but I think it's especially important for the Lords, who should be pivotal characters for any recruits, but it's pretty slim pickings.
One thing I found amusing was Hanneman's personal backstory(and actual reason to join the Empire) being buried in Edelgard's A support with him.
 

PK Gaming

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Oct 25, 2017
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Fun fact

Beating the Death Knight with Caspar rewards you with the Scythe of Sariel

Literally the only way to get it, and there's no real justification for it

:)
 

Poodlestrike

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One thing I found amusing was Hanneman's personal backstory(and actual reason to join the Empire) being buried in Edelgard's A support with him.
I swear, like half of the character developments in Edelgard's route are stuck in her supports.
Fun fact

Beating the Death Knight with Caspar rewards you with the Scythe of Sariel

Literally the only way to get it, and there's no real justification for it

:)
I wonder if that ties into the fact that it's in his and Mercedes' paralogue that you get the info on his identity...?
 

Quinton

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The Death Knight and Mercedes are maybe the biggest missed opportunity of a sub-plot in the entire game. The most puzzling, too.

You have this big backstory to work from there, which people speculated much better stories from pre-release. Emile's family falling out of power in his youth, his older (sister abandoning him and fleeing, him being adopted into a rival noble family because of his crest blood. Two family members in opposing factions, Mercedes' bios consistently noting how closely she observes everyone (could she be working with Emile?), the persistent presence of Jeritza pre-skip, the inevitability of an unmasking...

And then nothing. At all. The only "resolution" is a paralogue hidden behind recruiting an out-of-house student who has no supports with Mercedes, and said paralogue has little actual dialogue, and zero characterization or motivation or exposition. All it unlocks afterward is a still-obscured unmasking when he's defeated.

I just... what? Why was the Death Knight such an omnipresent boss? Why was Jeritza included at all pre-skip? Why did he wear a stupid mask? What was his dynamic with Edelgard or her cause? Why did his characterization boil down to the nothingburger of "FIGHT! KILL! TALK STILTEDLY!"

I don't understand. All I can imagine is that their sub-plot was left on the cutting room floor, along with the explanation for Dimitri's lost eye.

You said it well, man. It boggles my mind. Definitely the weakest link here and I hope in probable vain that it will be bolstered by DLC somehow.
 

PK Gaming

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Is that only in the paralogue?

Yeah, sorry should have mentioned

I swear, like half of the character developments in Edelgard's route are stuck in her supports.

I wonder if that ties into the fact that it's in his and Mercedes' paralogue that you get the info on his identity...?

Caspar is all about justice and the like so it makes sense. But they could have done a better job of making Caspar feel um, necessary. Or even tied them back to their characters
 

Gunny T Highway

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I agree, the way the Death Knight was handled was terrible. There was so much potential that was just cut. It was almost like they were trying for a Black Knight situation, but botched it at the last second.
 

Zache

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Oct 25, 2017
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The Death Knight and Mercedes are maybe the biggest missed opportunity of a sub-plot in the entire game. The most puzzling, too.

You have this big backstory to work from there, which people speculated much better stories from pre-release. Emile's family falling out of power in his youth, his older (sister abandoning him and fleeing, him being adopted into a rival noble family because of his crest blood. Two family members in opposing factions, Mercedes' bios consistently noting how closely she observes everyone (could she be working with Emile?), the persistent presence of Jeritza pre-skip, the inevitability of an unmasking...

And then nothing. At all. The only "resolution" is a paralogue hidden behind recruiting an out-of-house student who has no supports with Mercedes, and said paralogue has little actual dialogue, and zero characterization or motivation or exposition. All it unlocks afterward is a still-obscured unmasking when he's defeated.

I just... what? Why was the Death Knight such an omnipresent boss? Why was Jeritza included at all pre-skip? Why did he wear a stupid mask? What was his dynamic with Edelgard or her cause? Why did his characterization boil down to the nothingburger of "FIGHT! KILL! TALK STILTEDLY!"

I don't understand. All I can imagine is that their sub-plot was left on the cutting room floor, along with the explanation for Dimitri's lost eye.

I originally thought Jeritza was a red herring because of his reaction to asking for a duel to the death in one of the early months. Then there's that tidbit from Manuela that Jeritza outright apologized for stabbing her when she tracked him down.

There really does seem like there was more to his story than what we got.
 

The Adder

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Oct 25, 2017
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I just finished my first run with the GD. I loved the game and am itching to start my second play through already. However, I'm stuck with who to pick. I want the most out of the story since I don't think I'll play for a third time any time soon. Should I go with the BL or BE (non church route)?
Lions. They deal with the political landscape of Fodlan in a way that's mostly neglected by the other paths.
 

Tfritz

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Oct 25, 2017
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does the blue lion path acknowledge the tragic irony of how so many of the blue lion kids have explicitly been screwed over because of their kingdom's allegiance to the church and the crests and probably would be super down with edelgard's war if she had just done a salespitch in the lunch room instead of (literally every action she takes in white clouds)
 

Morlas

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I cant be the only one who thinks a Hubert and Hilda support chain would probably be amazing can I?
 

Lunar15

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does the blue lion path acknowledge the tragic irony of how so many of the blue lion kids have explicitly been screwed over because of their kingdom's allegiance to the church and the crests and probably would be super down with edelgard's war if she had just done a salespitch in the lunch room instead of (literally every action she takes in white clouds)

Even Dimitri isn't happy with the crest system and is suspicious of the church. No one in this game really loves the crest system.
 

Disclaimer

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does the blue lion path acknowledge the tragic irony of how so many of the blue lion kids have explicitly been screwed over because of their kingdom's allegiance to the church and the crests and probably would be super down with edelgard's war if she had just done a salespitch in the lunch room instead of (literally every action she takes in white clouds)

Them aligning with Edelgard would be a bit awkward if they discovered her cooperation with the people responsible for the Tragedy of Duscur, the event responsible for the shaping of them and their kingdom's instability.
 

Lunar15

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The Death Knight and Mercedes are maybe the biggest missed opportunity of a sub-plot in the entire game. The most puzzling, too.

You have this big backstory to work from there, which people speculated much better stories from pre-release. Emile's family falling out of power in his youth, his older (sister abandoning him and fleeing, him being adopted into a rival noble family because of his crest blood. Two family members in opposing factions, Mercedes' bios consistently noting how closely she observes everyone (could she be working with Emile?), the persistent presence of Jeritza pre-skip, the inevitability of an unmasking...

And then nothing. At all. The only "resolution" is a paralogue hidden behind recruiting an out-of-house student who has no supports with Mercedes, and said paralogue has little actual dialogue, and zero characterization or motivation or exposition. All it unlocks afterward is a still-obscured unmasking when he's defeated.

I just... what? Why was the Death Knight such an omnipresent boss? Why was Jeritza included at all pre-skip? Why did he wear a stupid mask? What was his dynamic with Edelgard or her cause? Why did his characterization boil down to the nothingburger of "FIGHT! KILL! TALK STILTEDLY!"

I don't understand. All I can imagine is that their sub-plot was left on the cutting room floor, along with the explanation for Dimitri's lost eye.

I for one can't wait for Death Knight's Beach DLC coming this winter to the eShop.
 

Basileus777

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I agree, the way the Death Knight was handled was terrible. There was so much potential that was just cut. It was almost like they were trying for a Black Knight situation, but botched it at the last second.
Jeralt is another figure they have botched compared to his equivalent in past games. Like if he had actually expressed more than vague suspicion of the church before his death, he could have been a good plot device, As is, the revelation about Byleth's origins about 13 chapters past when it was obvious just doesn't have much impact.
 

Poodlestrike

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does the blue lion path acknowledge the tragic irony of how so many of the blue lion kids have explicitly been screwed over because of their kingdom's allegiance to the church and the crests and probably would be super down with edelgard's war if she had just done a salespitch in the lunch room instead of (literally every action she takes in white clouds)
Ah, if only.
I cant be the only one who thinks a Hubert and Hilda support chain would probably be amazing can I?
Man, that would be spectacular and now I'm extra annoyed that we can't get it.
Them aligning with Edelgard would be a bit awkward if they discovered her cooperation with the people responsible for the Tragedy of Duscur, the event responsible for the shaping of them and their kingdom's instability.
Eh, if we're talking hypotheticals, if Edelgard is comfortable enough to make the salespitch, she's probably comfortable enough to start turning on Those who Slither early. It's not like she's hanging out with them 'cause she likes them.
 

Lunar15

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It'd be hard to pin Duscur on a child Edelgard, only plot contrivances or BL Dimitri could be that gullible.

I agree that it's a stretch, but to someone like Dimitri who traced back the conspiracy to Lord Arundel, and therefore, the Empire - It's easy to see how, when he finds out that Edelgard is the Flame Emperor, someone clearly working with Arundel and Those Who Slither (who he doesn't even know about and just associates with the empire at this point) that he'd direct his ire towards who he sees as someone directly connected to and manipulating said conspirators.
 

Disclaimer

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It'd be hard to pin Duscur on a child Edelgard, only plot contrivances or BL Dimitri could be that gullible.

Probably wouldn't matter to them that she didn't mastermind it. What matters is that she's in league with those who did, even if it's by her own necessity, which she can't divulge openly.

As fun as it is to mock Dimitri's jumping to conclusions, implausibility can surely be suspended somewhat when he sees a 17-year-old Edelgard capable of the continent-spanning machinations and duplicity that she is. He knows she was working closely with Arundel, whom he'd been investigating for years on suspicion of involvement in Duscur.
 

PK Gaming

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Dimitri in "women respecting mode" probably knows more than he lets on

He's too bitter, guilty and angry to do anything else.

On the other hand, Edelgard could probably namedrop working with Arundel in front of Annette and Mercedes and they wouldn't think twice about it.
 
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suracity

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I don't think anyone in BL route really focuses on crest system or "big picture" stuff.
Their life is completely derailed by Tragedy of Duscur and the 5 long year of political turmoil of a kingless kingdom.
Sylvain and Merce are two most affected by their crests, but their attitude is kinda like resigned acceptance with a pinch of bitterness.

But they innately understand the unfairness of all these. That's why they try to change it in their own way in the BL epilogue.
Especially Sylvain basically uses his charm to promote a new culture of dismissing importance of crest.

I like how things play out in BL routes because they have a focal point from the beginning to end. Mending wounds between Kingdom and Duscur, promoting fairness and bringing stability to the kingdom is more on their mind instead of some drastic reformation to societal order.
 

Xita

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Man reading all this I guess I should just do Church when Lunatic comes out and do a catch-all/recruit everyone playthrough
 

Daltrus

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does the blue lion path acknowledge the tragic irony of how so many of the blue lion kids have explicitly been screwed over because of their kingdom's allegiance to the church and the crests and probably would be super down with edelgard's war if she had just done a salespitch in the lunch room instead of (literally every action she takes in white clouds)
I don't think Edelgard was very interested in getting her point across to any of the Kingdom or Alliance peeps anyway since one way or another she was already planning to go to war with their countries before she even set foot in the monastery. Diplomacy was never a card available in the table due to her circumstances, at least in regards to the Kingdom and the Alliance.
 
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SliceSabre

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Yeah diplomatic gestures or just talking it out are literally not an option Edelgard is willing to take like at all.

BL route reenforces this as hard as possible, she would actually rather die than work things out with someone who doesn't utterly agree with her.
 

birdinsky

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Even Dimitri isn't happy with the crest system and is suspicious of the church. No one in this game really loves the crest system.

What are you talking about, crests/nobility are totally Lorenz and Ferdinand's jam. ;)

Flippancy aside, yeah, the game is basically a tragedy about inheriting a shit world state and muddling through.
 

Padparadscha

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Well one of the big themes of the game is trust, or lack thereof. Edelgard in particular knows Dimitri hates her, even if she isn't fully aware of the reasons why. Claude, on the other hand, could have been a potential ally, but he's deliberately crafted an impenetrable image for himself, and Edelgard won't risk asking him for help(until she beats him, of course).

And of course, there's the elephant slithering in the room, who would likely not look kindly on Edelgard selling them out in hopes of gaining new allies. Not to mention the church immediately declaring her a heretic who needs to be killed as soon as her talks with Dimitri and Claude leak.
 

HBK

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I think one of the things I find very compelling in Edelgard's route is how many games, but in particular Fire Emblem games with their focus on "permadeath" making it clear you're not simply "knocking down" your enemies but are actually killing them, is how this route acknowledges the horrors of war and the responsibility of your actions.

In most game plots, it's all laid out so that, yes, you may be a mass murderer, but "the bad guys left you no choice", which serves as a "feel good" justification for the player to engage in mass slaughter of enemy soldiers.

Here the game doesn't try to hide that you're doing this for selfish reasons (even if the reasoning behind it is motivated by selflessness, i.e. "making the world a better place"). In the end you're making it for your very own views of how the world should be (assuming you actually agree with the protagonist and aren't just playing the route for "gotta catch'em all" reasons). (*)

There's no mental gymnastics about how the player is "in the right", 100% a good guy for killing numerous other human beings. War is ugly and the game doesn't try to pretend you have the right to have fun killing other soldiers because "you have nothing to feel wrong about, no reason to blame yourself".

I guess in the end I'm just getting old and tired of games telling you "it's cool if you kill people because you're the good guys, and good guys have all the rights in the world".

Anyway, if that post ever makes sense.

Edit: (*) This also mirrors how the player plays the game for his/her selfish entertainment reasons.
 

Daltrus

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Well one of the big themes of the game is trust, or lack thereof. Edelgard in particular knows Dimitri hates her, even if she isn't fully aware of the reasons why. Claude, on the other hand, could have been a potential ally, but he's deliberately crafted an impenetrable image for himself, and Edelgard won't risk asking him for help(until she beats him, of course).

And of course, there's the elephant slithering in the room, who would likely not look kindly on Edelgard selling them out in hopes of gaining new allies. Not to mention the church immediately declaring her a heretic who needs to be killed as soon as her talks with Dimitri and Claude leak.
I meant more in the sense that at the beginning of the game Edelgard is a powerless imperial princess about to ascend to an equally powerless throne. Yet when she finally ascends later that year, she starts by deposing the prime minister, starting a purge of corrupt nobles, oficially starting a war with the church and leading the imperial armies into battle.

In the BE-E route right after taking Derdriu Hubert reveals that there were already "previous arrangements" made so that Count Bergleiz would be handling all the Alliance lands for the Empire. I imagine a similar "arrangement" was made for the Kingdom lands for Count Hevring, since the two of them are the most powerful men in the empire, and the only ones who could have given Edelgard the power to do any of the things she did at the end of part one. Before the attack on the monastery both Lin and Caspar actually can't believe that she managed to get the support of both of their dads, since they're always butting heads with each other in an act of showmanship.

Sometime during the school year Ferdinand mentions that there are many high ranking imperial nobles who still dream of restoring the old Empire, and after the mock battle of the Eagle and Lion Caspar mentions that his father came to watch the battle but didn't even speak with him, just had a private conversation with Edelgard and left immediately, and that as far he knew this was the first time they had spoken with each other.

It seems to me like in order to garner their support to restore power and authority to the emperor so she could actually do any of the things she set out to do, she promised them she would give them their dream of a reunified Fodlan under the Imperial banner. And thus any attempt for diplomacy with Dimitri or Claude would be a waste of everyone's time, since the best offer she could give them under her circumstances would be their unconditional surrender, annexation of their lands and their eternal exile from Fodlan (note that that is exactly what Claude's fate is if you spare his life).