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Firewall Zero Hour |OT| Tactical Table-Tripping Shooter
- Thread starter Shock32
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Yeah it's incredible. I played for another 5 hrs straight. Leveling is a bit too slow though. Losing teams should get more points. The winning team getting 6x the amount the losing team gets is a joke.
Yeah though my main gripes mainly come from the huge amount of down time between games, if it wasn't that I think EXP would probably be much faster. They need to let people play 3-5 rounds switching attack/defend before returning to the lobby for map change.
There is a lot of work that needs doing to their lobby system too:
Host migration
Mute players (always someone blasting terrible music)
Put all 8 players in the lobby so you can have some friendly banter with each other between games.
Add a firing range so you can test guns and equipment out before buying them.
Other than that though the core of the game is great and I'm really looking forward to see how they develop this over the coming months and flesh it out as it's a very solid start.
As much as it tries to mimic it, Siege is still leagues more fleshed out and feature-ready. That said, VR does bring a lot to these types of games. I hope First Contact follows through on their promise to keep supporting the game. Maybe with enough attention and resources it can reach the lofty heights of Siege!
To be fair though Siege has been out for what 3 years now or something so I think it's a very solid start for them. As long as they keep supporting it then I think it will do well.
I agree but it's got the base to build from and could well become the number one VR team shooter franchise.
I will pick this up after it has been polished a bit, so I hope it is a fun game to play. People sure seem to like it. Are the patches improving the game at a consistent rate?
Guys can you explain how mic works to me quickly? I usually use my HD600 headphones into the receiver for sound. I can use the buds for the headset if need be. I don't have a separate mic though. I use my camera as a mic. Will I be good in this game talking? Does it use the mic on the VR set?
The PSVR has a Mic built into it so I have just been using that with my headphones and seems to work fine.
So I take it the voice I receive back will be in my headphones, or must I use the buds that connect to PSVR?
Game chat comes through your headphones. I originally connect the mic from my headphones to the block on the PSVR cable but then found out about the built in mic so took the mic and cable off and just use the built in one now, one less cable to get tangled up in.
You need to plug your headphones into the 3.5mm jack on the PSVR to get binaural sound - if you just take the sound from the PS4 via a receiver you are cutting out the PSVR breakout box so you just get standard sound.
Really? I use some wireless headphones which go from the optical output of the PS4 to the headphone receiver and I'm pretty sure that works. Could be wrong though will have to try when I get home with some wired headphones and see if there is a difference.
I believe you only get 3D positional audio from the PSVR jack, so any other source puts you at a disadvantage
Not all games support 3D audio, but for those that do you will definitely hear a difference.
https://www.polygon.com/2016/10/3/13155460/playstation-vr-headphones-3d-audio
Managed to get some more time yesterday with mixed results:
After a couple of silent lobbies (I've given up actually playing a round with people who won't talk; it puts the team at such a disadvantage I'd rather find another lobby), and one French-speaking lobby (seemed like nice people, but I don't know much beyond gauche and droit, so quit after one game), I got into a great team with really good comms and teamwork.
When you get a good group this game is something really special. As mentioned above, a few little tweaks would help:
After a couple of silent lobbies (I've given up actually playing a round with people who won't talk; it puts the team at such a disadvantage I'd rather find another lobby), and one French-speaking lobby (seemed like nice people, but I don't know much beyond gauche and droit, so quit after one game), I got into a great team with really good comms and teamwork.
When you get a good group this game is something really special. As mentioned above, a few little tweaks would help:
- Host migration.
- Shorten the pre-match timer from 60 seconds to 30 and have a 'ready' button to start straight away if everyone's ready.
- Preset your attacking and defending loadouts and run two rounds on the same map back-to-back.
- Nerf the signal jammer, maybe just the range, or number that can be used.
- Maybe bump the damage for the SMGs slightly? I rarely see them, and even when I do it's usually because of the proximity mines loadout. Do something to make them better.
Kruger all day, all night.
Shotgun on that shooting range map for some random ass fun.
Be patient, they've released patches since then so they are still working on it.
Looking forward to jumping in again tonight; as NSE said above I hope I luck out with a good lobby - I got a couple of hours with my first bunch on my first night and it was great!
Kruger and SoS for close quarters. SoS is NASTY, one shot drops people. Also the revive pistol is the shiznit!
Feel good about choosing Kruger now lol. I'll be looking at that SoS as I do like running shotgun on shooting range map. I almost blind fire shotgun'd a whole squad, last guy got me.
Not so far. Apparently there's a discord but I'm a ludite so don't really use that. I put my psn up earlier in the thread but no takers :(
Got some friend requests from the last few days of play so I'm hoping to skim the best off my random but very friendly partners!
You're several levels higher than me, then!
Only just unlocked the Volkov, just a few hundred more credits...
My default is the Kruger, but I switch to shotgun on Shoothouse and Hotel. Will get the SOS when it unlocks.
What's the verdict on the Volkov/AK? Am I wasting my money? Damage stat looks good, but a big accuracy drop...
I'll dig out your earlier post and send a friend request! I'm UK time zone, normally on from around 23:00.
My PSN ID is Winch.
ONLY if you get 3-5 times more XP, while it would play better and feels more fluid, the grind would be even worse.
Thanks! I have a six month-old, so my window during the week is around 9-10:30pm but am usually around later on the weekends. I'll keep an eye out for when you're online and we can party up!
Not used it myself but the improved recoil resistance from the Norwegian? Operator apparently helps accuracy a lot. Was playing online with a random who was cursing the gun until he swapped operator...
Okay, no worries. One last note: Ensue your camera is above your headset height, so that the Aim controller doesn't block the camera view of the headset whilst you move them around. Over the course of time, if the camera is eye level or below the headset, you'll get tracking/ drifting issues when the Aim controller blocks sight of your headset from the camera, and tracking errors accumulate.
On the subject of sound, I've removed the stock buds from the V2 headset, and using a pair of decent wired headphones and a headphone amplifier, ramping the volume up, I can hear the quietest sounds with great positional accuracy. The 3D sound is rather creepy and tense when sneaking around.
Looks like you are holding the aim controller too far in front of you so the red dot sight is too small to pick up the dot quickly. Try bringing the aim in closer to your shoulder as if resting the rifles stock against it, this will make the sight much larger in your feild of veiw and allow you to use the red dot properly without loosing track of it outside of the sight boundaries.
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Yeah standard sound with a virtual surround option is usually just as good or better because I use a Denon with HD600s. The buds are okay with the PSVR, but terribly weak overall. Binaural sound is nice, but overall I see very few games that make use of it where I can tell much difference between that and virtual or surround options in games. The low power of the PSVR and cheap buds don't help though.
I was thinking about getting some low ohm in-ear headphones, but that still doesn't help the poor amplification.
Tried to drive my HD600s in the PSVR lol but it was too low of volume.
You can feed the audio output from the headset into an amplifier - ideally a headphone amplifier, and a wired headphone of your choice.
What kind of amplifier has the ins and outs needed go through the headset audio?
No conundrum: buy Aim for Firewall and Farpoint. There will be no regrets.
(Firewall actually works pretty decently with DS4.)
Here's a typical headphone amplifier without a DAC:
It's an FiiO A5, the one I'm currently using. Audio output from the headset, connected by an audio aux cable, goes into the headphone amplifier, and the headphone plugs into it. There are plenty of these types of headphone amplifiers around.
Dislike all earplugs that are fitted inside ear canals as none actually fit me. Even the smallest rubber coating makes them fall out. Thinking about buying a wireless headset but I'm not sure if any exists that take the 3D sound produced by the breakout box or?
You can get plugs of various sizes, and also materials where they form the shape of your ear canals. IIRC, wireless headphones don't work with PSVRs 3D audio.
Here's a typical headphone amplifier without a DAC:
It's an FiiO A5, the one I'm currently using. Audio output from the headset, connected by an audio aux cable, goes into the headphone amplifier, and the headphone plugs into it. There are plenty of these types of headphone amplifiers around.
Okay, yeah I have heard of these amps. I used to have a custom DAC, I just wasn't sure all of this would pass the audio correctly. I have a 3.5mm connector for my HD600s, so all I need is something like this then and an auxiliary cable and it does 3d audio? I would hope this can power my HD600s decently.
This has no DAC? Are there ones with a good DAC for not too much more? Is the DAC in the PSVR any good at all? I know most modern DACs are pretty decent nowadays.
The DAC is already done when the audio signal leaves the headset. So all you need to do with this analogue signal is simply amplify it with an analogue amplifier. And avoid any other signal modifications from DSP effects provided by some amps - just a pure signal amplification will suffice.
Yes, but is the DAC in the PSVR any good is the question? I said it should be as most DACs today are decent. But IDK. Well, I think I am going to get a black A5 then and do this because I am sick of using my buds for 3D movies.
I doubt it's any kind of high-end DAC, considering the price of PSVR. It should be located in the breakout box, and if the signal is hackable, then the DAC could be by-passed. The next model of PSVR/ PS5 should have on optical out to avoid all this.
I have Bose QC35s and Sony 1000XM2 wireless headphones and whilst both are super comfortable with VR (much more than buds) you need to use the 3.5mm cable to work with the Ps4. I'm not sure if even the Sony Gold or Platinum headsets will process 3d audio wirelessly. But it's definitely worth upgrading from the buds, especially for.a game that needs you to be able to hear footsteps etc.
Nope, you need to plug in the cable. The breakout box is processing the spatial audio, and its only output is the headphone jack. Nothing can bypass this.
Yeah but in 2016 or so even DAC's should generally be fairly decent. It's not like before when you would get less precision due to tech not being good enough. Most DACs I would think are 192kHz and of good quality today. I should look for a teardown or something.
At any rate I'm gonna try that amp. Should be a lot more comfy with my HD600s.