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First Batch of Russian Facebook Ads released. Feature Hillary as Satan, Buff Bernie, Pro/Anti-BLM
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I completely agree that they have a goal of destabilizing the United States but I'm also saying that it is disingenuous to claim that Is what the election interference was about. The entire election campaign had one main goal in mind. Which was getting trump elected.
It goes much further than Facebook ads. You couldn't even watch a video about Hillary, without scrolling down and seeing tons of sickening comments about her, all upvoted to the top by bot accounts. Just about every facet of social media was attacked.
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You surely understand that the damage Trump is causing isn't constrained solely to the USA? Take, for example, the scuttling of the TPP - that's a drastic amount of foregone growth in several poorer countries that would have lifted many out of poverty, not to mention shifting the distribution of geopolitical power in a way that's unfavourable not just to American interests, but those of most countries in the region.
And that's just one example. You can sit there luxuriating in schadenfreude (though it's certainly misguided to do so), but let's not pretend this affects only Americans.
On-topic: as a non-American who followed the election closely and Hillary in particular (she was the favoured candidate of my [relevant] academic discipline): it was abundantly clear even in the primary days that something very suspicious was going on. I'm glad it's starting to come to light.
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Because there is an active federal investigation as well as the congressional one.
Odds are good Mueller had this already.
I disagree. Russia clearly wanted Trump to win and I think it's pretty obvious. Most of the shit you see in these ads is anti Hillary, and even tries to make Trump... Donald fucking grab them by the pussy Trump look like he is god's chosen one. And of course, the religious right bought that shit.
Zuckerberg and Dorsey should be held accountable for this.
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Trying to get the Fucking Moron-in-Chief elected and creating political destabilization in the United States are not mutually exclusive things to the Kremlin.
I know people personally who were dissuaded by these ads. Is it any wonder that trump's base is made up of almost entirely uneducated and evangelical whites?
This is some heinous shit, they tried to organise some hate rally against Muslims in Texas and at the same time a Muslim counter protest, to spark an incident. They're trying to cause real world violence with these ads.
They're always trying to rile people up against black folk too.
Just crazy that Russia can do anything right now to America, and they seem to have a free pass.
They're always trying to rile people up against black folk too.
Just crazy that Russia can do anything right now to America, and they seem to have a free pass.
I love the poorly educated!
Best part is he follows right after with "We're the smartest people!" looool
Last part is completely untrue.
But yes, their companies do bear responsibility for better moderation of adverts.
Forest for the trees.
Fact is, it IS working. All sides. Not getting suckered is a take that's not gonna cut it from now on, this is now a weapon henceforth and must be treated like it, but for right now, it's aimed directly at liberal democracy.
i have recently decided to keep my Facebook activity to a bare minimum and only use the Messenger fo communicating with relatives.
i am so discusted by that size and scope of this fuckery
Fuck the Zuch
i am so discusted by that size and scope of this fuckery
Fuck the Zuch
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This is how I've been using it for eons. It's great as a communications tool, great for life status updates, terrible to use as a social group medium.
Not sure if anybody else already did it, but I was curious about the click through rates.
Pro BLM: 6%
Anti BLM: 23%
Bernie: 6%
Jesus: 20%
edit: the ones not in OP:
Trump is not my president: 14%
Sanders says clinton foundation a problem: 11%
Teaching kids about guns: 0.7% (Instagram)
Get ready to secede (texas): 14%
Veterans casket: 3% (instagram)
Instagram seems like an outlier (don't have liberal instagram ads to compare), but generally the conservative-targeting ads get more clicks.
Pro BLM: 6%
Anti BLM: 23%
Bernie: 6%
Jesus: 20%
edit: the ones not in OP:
Trump is not my president: 14%
Sanders says clinton foundation a problem: 11%
Teaching kids about guns: 0.7% (Instagram)
Get ready to secede (texas): 14%
Veterans casket: 3% (instagram)
Instagram seems like an outlier (don't have liberal instagram ads to compare), but generally the conservative-targeting ads get more clicks.
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Because of facebook shit like this, my brother in law went from a totally rational person to someone who lost all critical thinking skills after being fed this shit from his co workers sharing it non-stop.
You laugh, but it was this ability to connect with the lower class that contributed to him winning the election. Liberals often quote the first part, as it seems he's mocking the uneducated, without paying attention to how he endears himself to that crowd with the very next remark.
It's not so surprising if you have seen the documentary Hypernormalisation by Adam Curtis.
Part of it shows that they use the same technique in russian politics, sponsoring both anti and pro groups, both the extreme left and right, etc just to create division. You should all read up on Vladislav Surkov, he is the creator of this divide and conquer technique.
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...thor-putinism-russia-vladislav-surkov/382489/
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Part of it shows that they use the same technique in russian politics, sponsoring both anti and pro groups, both the extreme left and right, etc just to create division. You should all read up on Vladislav Surkov, he is the creator of this divide and conquer technique.
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...thor-putinism-russia-vladislav-surkov/382489/
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You can see more or less the same phenomenon in european politics. The fringe right and left parties are either in love with Putins ruthlessness, power, whathaveyou (right) or are portraying Russia as this misunderstood, threatened beast just trying to cope with NATO's unfair (lol) expansion and ... oh... why don't we talk about the evils of NEOLIBERALISM and AMERICAN IMPERIALISM instead (left) ?
Im not american, but someone doing something wrong doesnt mean its ok for another to do something wrong aswell.
Thats why we are all in this situation now, nd yes I say all because this is affecting the whole world. Heck, that excuse has been used by other politicians in other part of the world and everyone that uses it are in the wrong.
This is the most discouraging thing I've seen. Of all countries, it seems American public would be the most capable of being effected by this type of targeting. Easy to believe, but unbelievable at the same time.
No lessons will be gleaned from this. The only winner here will be Russia. The rest of the world ain't gonna benefit.
Adds like these and all the fake profiles I would see posting them is what drove me to disable my Facebook.
I reported so many profiles with no personal photos and just memes like these who would troll news articles. Everytime Facebook would respond they don't violate the terms of service. Even when they would post racist comments Facebook always responded they don't violate the terms of service.
I reported so many profiles with no personal photos and just memes like these who would troll news articles. Everytime Facebook would respond they don't violate the terms of service. Even when they would post racist comments Facebook always responded they don't violate the terms of service.
Do you have any evidence of this (it being illegal to run ads paid for by a foreign power)?
Just read about this.
Also saw a lil article about the Senate IC and a Republican said 'Its not about winning n losing, etc etc.' speaking to FB, Google and others about Russian ads. It feels good to hear some Republicans say this. Hopefully more do. And more say that about whats going on these days with the investigation.
I agree, because that treads dangerously close to some of the things intelligence agency's do to destabilize countries....
Basically what seems to be happening to America.
Also saw a lil article about the Senate IC and a Republican said 'Its not about winning n losing, etc etc.' speaking to FB, Google and others about Russian ads. It feels good to hear some Republicans say this. Hopefully more do. And more say that about whats going on these days with the investigation.
I agree, because that treads dangerously close to some of the things intelligence agency's do to destabilize countries....
Basically what seems to be happening to America.
I recall seeing that Blacktivist page in the past. America purposely undereducating their population came back to bite us. Some of these ads scream fake.
Hmm, maybe the program never ended...
Pretty damn, but that's the way of things. Go to an average American's Facebook page and you can see how she educates herself with memes. Just this week I saw someone unironically share this post, and generate two dozens likes and amazed responses:
Many people have absolutely 0 media literacy. Many people lack crucial critical thinking skills. Some days I am amazed at how advanced our civilizations can be be, despite our individual stupidity.
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I think what people need to realize is that Russia is willing to have their trolls pose as whatever to sow discord in America.
In fact I would venture a guess right now that the problem is no longer Russian trolls pretending to be Trump supporters, because a Trump supporter is just going to be viewed as a trump supporter.
No instead I would say that the Russian trolls, as well as some Alt-right people, are posing as anti-democrat bernie fans trying to discourage Progressives from supporting democrats because that will have a much more likely chance of influencing people.
In fact I would venture a guess right now that the problem is no longer Russian trolls pretending to be Trump supporters, because a Trump supporter is just going to be viewed as a trump supporter.
No instead I would say that the Russian trolls, as well as some Alt-right people, are posing as anti-democrat bernie fans trying to discourage Progressives from supporting democrats because that will have a much more likely chance of influencing people.
Facebook was already a cesspool as it was, but this puts things on a whole other level.
An outside country literally bought ads to influence the outcome of a US election.
Damn.
An outside country literally bought ads to influence the outcome of a US election.
Damn.
I laugh because of how ridiculous it all was, and yes, at how it somehow worked.