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First handheld footage of Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes
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It was playable undocked at Japan Expo too. I played it both docked and undocked, felt no difference.
They've released a bunch of info over the months though, it's just not being drip fed to you. Expect a release date next week.
I still feel conflicted about this game. It's not No More Heroes 3 so let's get that out of the way. But I still feel conflicted about the game as a whole.
I don't know man, that open world sounds pretty dope ;^)
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No, it's the same APRG/Hack and slash gameplay but each level will have its own gimmick.
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I mean, the game has always been pushed as an indie title. Grasshopper/Nintendo isn't interested in pumping millions into marketing a game that has an indie sized team and an indie sized budget a la early Grasshopper.
But would you say that it even reached the recognition that bigger Indies nowadays do? Don't know, it feels like this is really flying under the radar, even within enthusiasts communities. Maybe I'm expecting a bit too much from Nintendo here as Sushi Striker e.g. didn't receive a big push either.
Unfortunately, I see a lot of "this is not No More Heroes, wtf is this" on this forum. I guess that's why it's not being that much talked on forums.
No More Heroes has always been niche. I'd assume it would get another highlight in the next direct leading up to launch. Other than that, Grasshopper is really relying on word of mouth as Travis Strikes Again has been playable at so many events now. EGX Rezzed, PAX East, Gamescom, GDC, Japan Expo etc. I got to play it myself at EGX and I've seen for myself how strong of an impression the game leaves. The people that are interested in it will already have an eye on it while those on the fence will wait for good word of mouth from reviews and previews before picking it up. It's a genius way to go about things to be honest and it truly embodies the smaller-scale release that Suda is really pushing for here.
Thanks for the clarifications!
I love No More Heroes but im not very interested in this since the concept was described ill wait for full game reviews and impressions.
If you don't mind me asking, what are the main issues you have with this game?
There's not really a lot to talk about given that it's a smaller, budget game that has already gone into detail of the concepts of each level and has shown the designs of every boss.
I have a gut feeling that it'll be stealth released, to be honest. We'll get a new trailer next Direct, and an "available now" right after.
For my part, I think that setting it in a virtual world and basing the levels off of indie games saps a lot of the quirky and surreal nature that the original games had. I'm also really not a fan of the top-down playstyle (though I can't tell if that's just for one level or not).
The top down hack n slash gameplay looks like it's stripping all of the cinematic style from the original games. The camera placement in the original oozed style, and the gameplay seemed to just be a lot more dynamic. Literally every piece of gameplay of this I've seen has a lot of moments where the person playing just moves around hammering the X button, causing Travis to just run around flailing about aimlessly. It looks goofy, and the opposite of the cool vibe the series is known for.
It sounds harsh, but this looks like a $20 eShop spin-off of No More Heroes.
The levels aren't based off of indie games the heck are you on about.
There are far more skills and moves than the running slash, you can't expected press people to know all about it with a 10mn hands-on session. They are also not based on indie games at all, they're their own levels
And we only know about 1 of the 7 or 8 levels that are going to be in it. I think trying to put a price tag on the game so quickly is dumb
Oh, I thought it was a full priced game. That definitely changes my expectations then.
Not specific ones but Suda51 has said that indie games were the inspiration for the levels.
I played TSA at PAX East and had a blast! Something I've noticed that hasn't really been talked about is that each character has 4 unique special moves that have a cool down on top of standard melee attacks and super moves. There's also a co-op supermove you can do. We don't even know about the leveling systems and stuff yet. Was a lot of fun, though! Gameplay felt consistent and fun, and the game still oozed that weird NMH style with the strange NPCs and cool visual stylings.
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Honestly, just none of the actual gameplay I've seen looks interesting or fun. If this wasn't No More Heroes, I wouldn't even give it a second glance.
I honestly blame the marketing and promotion for the (obviously continued) confusion about this game's design and gameplay.
Really hope we get a proper second look at the game. I think this would definitely decide everyone's viewpoint of the game.
Really hope we get a proper second look at the game. I think this would definitely decide everyone's viewpoint of the game.
Valid concerns. I should clarify some things though. The levels aren't actually based off indie games, but inspired by games Suda grew up with like Gauntlet and Zero4 Champ. The top-down playstyle seems to be the main "gameplay" so to speak that will be present across the six main worlds. Each world has its own gimmick which influences gameplay somehow like a racing level for example. They're also planning on adding a pinball level and what Suda describes as a "triple-A style area". In order to get into these games, Travis leaves the trailer to find the actual physical copies scattered around. Suda describes this part of the game as an old school visual novel style adventure game.
I think what gets me excited is the fact that throughout the year, Suda and the team have acknowledged that what they've shown so far hasn't really convinced people about the game's potential. The fact that this is Suda's first time directing a game since No More Heroes and that he gets to break away from the tired setup of the numbered titles tells me that he has a lot of room to really pursue his vision. I'm extremely interested in this idea of visiting different games and seeing Suda's take on the age old trope of going inside a game makes me curious. I'm certain we'll really see his signature style ooze through this project. Also, the whole talk about indie games has really confused some people, it's simply just a T-Shirt collaboration with other indie games such as Hyper Light Drifter and Hotline Miami.
The thing is, I see this as Suda really gearing people up for a potential No More Heroes 3. He's stated in interviews that he wants to use Travis Strikes Again as a means to introduce newer players into the series' signature style which he believes justifies the smaller levels and simpler gameplay. From a pure gameplay perspective, Travis Strikes Back is light years ahead of No More Heroes 1&2. There's charm to the jank of those games but going back now it just doesn't hold up. TSA has these co-op moves that you can pull off that really add to the depth of combat IMHO. It's not all just holding down the attack button. There's also the four special moves that Travis and Badman have.
This is wrong. They all originate from his childhood inspirations.
I feel like the combat system here might prove to be a good stepping stone going into an eventual No More Heroes 3.
Using special moves on top of the standard slashing while having to tango with multiple mobs at once seems like a cool way to evolve the combat since No More Heroes had some really generic combat carried by novelty. At least here the more Furi-like approach seems like it has nuance to it.
Using special moves on top of the standard slashing while having to tango with multiple mobs at once seems like a cool way to evolve the combat since No More Heroes had some really generic combat carried by novelty. At least here the more Furi-like approach seems like it has nuance to it.
I could be wrong but I think it's incredibly flawed logic to use completely different gameplay to try and get new players into a franchise. That would just serve to have the reverse effect if NMH3 were to come out with gameplay from the first two games.
Unless this is how the gameplay is going to be from here on out which would just be bleh.
We got one good teaser, the rest is just this same demo that I literally fell asleep watching the first time.
Wow I have not seen this, my mistake. Thanks for that!They've released a bunch of info over the months though, it's just not being drip fed to you. Expect a release date next week.
Valid concerns. I should clarify some things though. The levels aren't actually based off indie games, but inspired by games Suda grew up with like Gauntlet and Zero4 Champ. The top-down playstyle seems to be the main "gameplay" so to speak that will be present across the six main worlds. Each world has its own gimmick which influences gameplay somehow like a racing level for example. They're also planning on adding a pinball level and what Suda describes as a "triple-A style area". In order to get into these games, Travis leaves the trailer to find the actual physical copies scattered around. Suda describes this part of the game as an old school visual novel style adventure game.
I think what gets me excited is the fact that throughout the year, Suda and the team have acknowledged that what they've shown so far hasn't really convinced people about the game's potential. The fact that this is Suda's first time directing a game since No More Heroes and that he gets to break away from the tired setup of the numbered titles tells me that he has a lot of room to really pursue his vision. I'm extremely interested in this idea of visiting different games and seeing Suda's take on the age old trope of going inside a game makes me curious. I'm certain we'll really see his signature style ooze through this project. Also, the whole talk about indie games has really confused some people, it's simply just a T-Shirt collaboration with other indie games such as Hyper Light Drifter and Hotline Miami.
The thing is, I see this as Suda really gearing people up for a potential No More Heroes 3. He's stated in interviews that he wants to use Travis Strikes Again as a means to introduce newer players into the series' signature style which he believes justifies the smaller levels and simpler gameplay. From a pure gameplay perspective, Travis Strikes Back is light years ahead of No More Heroes 1&2. There's charm to the jank of those games but going back now it just doesn't hold up. TSA has these co-op moves that you can pull off that really add to the depth of combat IMHO. It's not all just holding down the attack button. There's also the four special moves that Travis and Badman have.
Yup. Hopefully it turns out great, I hold no ill will towards the game. Just explaining why I'm not too excited atm. If it ends up being a home run, awesome :)