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First Look at Nintendo Labo
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EVERYONE in interactive entertainment prob had a "mandatory" meeting this morning lol.
Not really, even at 32 i would not play it, maybe at the age of 9 or 10, but right now way too young for me. This does nothing for me, but that dont mean its not brilliant
How dare you ?
How did you forget the one ruling everything, the iconic POWER GLOVE ! ;-)
Damn. Seriously ?
My world is collapsing.
Not even co-developped by Nintendo ?
I need to check the story behind it.
Labo is GCU eligible? Idk why I never even figured to look. It is a game after all. Good call!
Oh I don't think they're gonna give up on video games, especially the Tt stuff. I meant they might have thrown in the towel on the "toys to life" aspect of it. And while yes, the idea of a Lego piano that's even more advanced than the Labo one is amazing, what they really want to do (or at least wantED to do) is figure out a way to let people build whatever they want in the real world, and then play with it in the game world. And honestly that seems (or, again seemED) to be what Lego fans want/ed as well. I can build a little Batmobile and scan it into Dimensions and it'll be there, but if I use red bricks to build mine and scan it it's just gonna show up as the normal black Batmobile in the game. If I added a larger booster on the back or put a robotic claw coming out of the top, those won't exist in Dimensions. That's the problem Lego hasn't figured out yet.
No kidding, Variety Pack goes from $70 -> $55 and the Robot Pack goes from $80 -> $64. Much more palatable.
Photogrammetry combined with some deep learning algorithms could be a solution - have the app/game create a 3D mesh of the object by getting the user to take photos or videos of it from different angles, then use machine learning to detect what elements of the mesh are Lego bricks along with their type and colour, then reconstruct the object using 3D versions of those bricks.
I just had a bit of a weird thought:
Lego has been fairly supportive of Nintendo. Lego City Undercover was originally a Wii U exclusive, and Lego Worlds marketing always seemed to be focus on the Switch.
Will this change now that Nintendo is getting more into the toy space? Libo and lego aren't direct competitors, but they're definitely largely competing for the same market.
Lego has been fairly supportive of Nintendo. Lego City Undercover was originally a Wii U exclusive, and Lego Worlds marketing always seemed to be focus on the Switch.
Will this change now that Nintendo is getting more into the toy space? Libo and lego aren't direct competitors, but they're definitely largely competing for the same market.
Yeah it gets really tricky the more complex your build becomes. Cause on the more advanced cars and stuff, they have a lot of hidden mechanics that a camera couldn't see, like being able to stick your finger through the window to turn the steering wheel which then rotates the front tires, or having the back wheels make the car's engine look like its pistons are pumping. I don't know how they could simplify the process enough that anyone outside of enthusiasts would use it (like LDD or simply rebuilding your physical model part by part in-game). Lego's whole thing to everything they make is something like, "Would a 7-year old German boy like this" and if the answer is no, they don't make it. :\
Lego only have one product that's anywhere close to what Labo is/does, which is Mindstorms. But not only is it far more advanced (at least from what we know, since MS has actual computer coding) it's also old as hell. If nothing else this might spur Lego to finally make a Mindstorms v4.
That steering wheel looks even more intricate than the robot. The internals are crazy. I just realized that tab in the middle probably honks the horn...
I just watched the trailer for this and thought it was amazing. Not for me obviously but children will love this.
This is not for most of the people on this board, and if you are upset about it not being a new first party game you should realize that.
This is not for most of the people on this board, and if you are upset about it not being a new first party game you should realize that.
I think we will see a lego base on Nintendo Labo next year.
As it will be based on lego, i think it will be better since it will be more durable.
You can't fold lego though, or draw on it. Obviously there are ways to design around this but I don't think it would be as good overall.
I was thinking more along the lines of "toys for kids who like to build things".
I don't see Lego partnering with Mattel, for example, even though the kinds of toys Mattel makes are very different from Lego.
Kind of related, I've always loved this advert because of the music.
Well, they can sell stickers. Maybe create legos with some fold parts. Imagine a piano where only the keys are the moving parts.
I'd preorder now since you can always cancel and its best to be prepared. In saying that if you need it last minute you can always just buy a digital version of the software and hit up a craft store for the cardboard. Nintendo is releasing all the plans online for people to make their own replacement parts
I was imagining something like the mii strapped into the cardboard. His actions would be like Bayonetta summoning her demon for punches and kicks only it's the mech. Some moved you could fully have it transform or even just have the mii always surrounded around by a translucent mech. I just feel that the mech being you (or in this case your mii) is important to what it is.
Lego has a junior robotics league for ages 6-10:
https://www.firstinspires.org/robotics/flljr/what-is-first-lego-league-jr
https://www.firstinspires.org/robotics/flljr/what-is-first-lego-league-jr
That's because Mattel is a direct competitor to Lego, because Mattel makes MegaBloks (which are now called Mega Construx since the brand got so tainted for being complete garbage quality). They also don't work with Hasbro because Hasbro has Kre-O.
In fact, Hasbro has sued Lego before, but Lego still continues to make sets off of licenses shared with Hasbro. But it's because of Hasbro that you will never be able to buy any Marvel, DC, or Star Wars Lego Minifigures on their own. They either have to be in sets, literally bolted to a magnet, or a keychain. Otherwise, they're "action figures" and Hasbro will sue them again.
I think Labo and normal Lego sets are different enough that it won't cause any kind of rift, reducing them to "kits you build something with" puts Lego in competition with all kinds of other companies. If that 4Chan PixelBits rumor had been true, maybe Lego would get bent and try to do something. But even when Amiibo and Lego Dimensions were both considered "Toys to Life" (even though, again, Dimensions was much different than amiibo) they still worked with Nintendo all through the Wii U and 3DS and now onto Switch.
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So, what is the justification of a $70 price tag when we both know cardboard is cheap and the game included isn't some super high budget production. Look, I don't have any issues with the overall concept of the Labo, but at least price it more realistically.
F-ZERO NX + LABO Steering Wheel Compatibility = Adults paying upwards of $70 dollars for cardboard to go with their $60 game.
And we will be pleased about it.
Dr. Serkan Toto (Kantan Games Inc.)Verified account @serkantoto 11m11 minutes ago
After rising US$1.4 billion in value (+2.36%) yesterday, Nintendo stock is currently up 3.73% at the Tokyo Stock Exchange. Investors love LABO and what it could mean for the Switch.
https://twitter.com/serkantoto/status/954160820958650368
After rising US$1.4 billion in value (+2.36%) yesterday, Nintendo stock is currently up 3.73% at the Tokyo Stock Exchange. Investors love LABO and what it could mean for the Switch.
https://twitter.com/serkantoto/status/954160820958650368
I'm sorry, but a collection of tech demos doesn't justify a $50 price tag lone and the extra $20 - $30 for preshaped cardboard cutouts is beyond greedy.
At least a game like F-Zero would justify a $50 - $60 price tag by itself.
What determines how much a piece of SW is worth? A new F-zero would be lucky to have 1/10th of the budget of something like GTAVI so why should it cost the same? What inherently makes the SW in labo worth less than any other SW?
It comes down to demand and at this early stage labo appears to have that.
I love how mind blowing everything becomes in slow motion. I've studied physics all my life and it never ceases to amaze me how much raw information we lose at our level of perception (in real time)
Yeah, if people want to make the bill of materials argument, then everything is overpriced. I wonder how much the Lord of the Rings trilogy is worth if the only thing that matters is the paper it's printed on?
Well, I will admit I don't understand the modern Nintendo market. I've pretty much disliked everything Nintendo has done post GC era, so I guess I'm biased.
Ok so here's my dream scenario / worst nightmare:
A Nintendo Labo house where you can put your amiibos in and they show up as residents in your virtual doll house
A Nintendo Labo house where you can put your amiibos in and they show up as residents in your virtual doll house
Value is relative, some guy sold me FZERO GX (CIB) for 7 dollars back in 2011 without hesitating.
This has literally nothing to do with Nintendo. Every company prices their SW based on what they think it's worth not what it costs. You've done nothing to explain why for example a new F-zero is worth more than labo or why labo is worth less than any other piece of SW. What makes Nintendo greedy here exactly that all other game companies aren't guilty of with very game they release?
Edit: sorry it doesn't have nothing to do with Nintendo but your argument about greed and SW value applies across the board.
xD my phone wigged out and posted prematurely. IR sensors could do crazy shit for tabletop games, I think. I might not understand the tech limitations well enough though.
Omg this thing is charting everywhere :
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It would have been amazing if the IR sensor was at the top of the joycon instead of the bottom. We would have been able to use pointer controls.
Is there some way IR works that makes it superior to gyro? I guess I'm not entirely sure of what kinds of applications would require IR to take gyro's place these days for pointer controls.
The advantage would be that the IR sensors are places near the TV, so it would have a point of reference. You wouldn't need to recalibrate the controller's gyro.
I honestly would say "modern Nintendo" isn't really any different than they've ever been. What's been happening I think is third party support helped diversify the older consoles' lineups, and as that started dwindling these titles became more apparent to people who focused more on the kinds of games third parties make.
Having said that, I understand if it's not your thing. I'm beyond happy thatthere's enough diversity in the market for both of us to have a console that caters to our preferences. :)
See, I was never really bothered much by recalibrating, it's usually a fairly convenient button press.
That sensor bar drove me crazy, though!
