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DvdGzz

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Mar 21, 2018
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Can confirm lifting makes it possible to eat a lot. I averaged 3800 calories since September according to my calorie tracking app. I'm only 195 pounds. I can't imagine how much I'd have to eat at 440 pounds like Shaw...
 

Tuorom

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Oct 30, 2017
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Can confirm lifting makes it possible to eat a lot. I averaged 3800 calories since September according to my calorie tracking app. I'm only 195 pounds. I can't imagine how much I'd have to eat at 440 pounds like Shaw...
Google says 12 000!

I believe Shaw also says it is the hardest part of lifting. Just eating as much as possible.
 

Masquerader

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Nov 4, 2017
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Finally! I have overcame the fear and discovered the pleasures of weighted squatting. My glutes and quads hate me to death now, but at least I have finally unlocked the path to better leg gains! Though, Leg Press machine will forever have a place in my heart.
 

DvdGzz

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Mar 21, 2018
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I'm doing super low carb for the first time in my life this week. I have no energy, strength or power.
Is that the only way you can achieve a calorie deficit? Sounds pretty terrible.

I'd feel awful if I ate that sort of food. Really doesn't work for me at all.
:( man, that sucks. I, of course, eat healthily but if I were not able to include pizza, ice cream, cookies daily I'd be so sad.
 

Zefah

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm doing super low carb for the first time in my life this week. I have no energy, strength or power.
It's always interesting to see the effects that low-carb can have on different people. Some report conditions like you, while others (like me) report more energy than ever before and no real effect on strength.

I recently saw a video on a Japanese fitness channel in which a famous body builder/trainer personality talked about how low-carb can often take up to a month to really work well for Japanese people, since they typically eat a ton of carbs and have a higher density of Prevotella bacteria compared Bacteroides bacteria in their gut. Whereas if this balance is shifted in favor of Bacteroides (and apparently it naturally shifts this way if you continue eating low-carb), then the body works well with a lower amount of carbohydrate intake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXwwQa3PPkY&t=185s

This could all be pseudo science nonsense. I don't know, but I hadn't heard a lot about how specific types and amounts of gut bacteria could heavily influence an individual's adaptability to a low-carb diet. I'm going to poke around and see if there is much more research on this topic available online.
 
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ArkhamFantasy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Speaking of food, i can't stress enough how much i love my crock pot.

Chicken, olive oil, chicken broth, and a few frozen packages of your preferred veggies (I use brocolli/carrots/corn/onions) and boom. Can throw in potato's or rice if you want some extra calories. I usually add a bit of sauce at the end to give it a bit more taste, but it makes everything so tender that you don't even need it.

I had been eating dry ass chicken and crunchy ass veggies for years for no reason.
 

Psychotext

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Oct 30, 2017
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Not a crock pot, but sous vide chicken breast was a revelation to me. Just astonishing how much better it tastes / how much nicer the texture is.
 

Tuorom

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I just learned how to make a basic sauce, so my bland ass rice and beans are much better haha.

It is super easy too. You make a roux with 50% flour, 50% fat, heat it up then add some kind of liquid like any milk, water, chicken stock....
Add spices and you're in flavour town.
 

Astral

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Oct 27, 2017
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Man I was looking at my older pictures when I was leaner and I kind of miss it. I’m nearing the end of bulk with maybe 14 or 15 weeks left and I really hope I look better than ever. My lifts have improved significantly so I better look good. I get way to self-conscious about this stuff.
 

Teggy

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Oct 25, 2017
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Curious what methodologies people use for determining number of reps for assistance exercises, when to increase weight and by how much?
 

Psychotext

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I've never found any sort of reliable progression method. I tend to just switch up the reps / weights occasionally now.
 

ArkhamFantasy

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Curious what methodologies people use for determining number of reps for assistance exercises, when to increase weight and by how much?
FWIW, my program is very specific about weight and reps for the main reps, and the accessory lifts are completely up to me and listed as optional. Granted this is a power lifter program and not a body builder program.
 

Teggy

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FWIW, my program is very specific about weight and reps for the main reps, and the accessory lifts are completely up to me and listed as optional. Granted this is a power lifter program and not a body builder program.
Yeah I do a modified Greyskull but I added in some additional triceps and shoulder work for a variety of reasons. I’ve just never felt comfortable choosing when to increase weight and/or reps and feel like I am being inefficient.
 

Tuorom

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Yeah I do a modified Greyskull but I added in some additional triceps and shoulder work for a variety of reasons. I’ve just never felt comfortable choosing when to increase weight and/or reps and feel like I am being inefficient.
Adjust it according to your goals.
If you're just working on movement technique keep it light but maybe adjust the time under tension, ie. 3 sec up, 3 sec down -> 3up, 3 pause, 3 down etc.

Strength - follow 5x5 or something, increasing the weight when you achieve 5 reps on every set

etc.

Overload doesn't always have to be weight or reps either. It can be as simple as adding a pause, or making the eccentric more pronounced.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Tweaked my neck a bit doing DLs yesterday (also hi, I'm joining this thread) but feeling much better today. Currently working through Ivysaur's 4-4-8, which is basically a combo of SS/SL/Greyskull with more presses and alternating 100%/90% sets. I add in additional work as well - yesterday was some lat pulldowns and kettlebell snatches. The kettlebell snatch is FAR AND AWAY my favorite exercise these days.
 

Astral

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Oct 27, 2017
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Does anyone here do both weightlifting and some kind of martial arts? If so, how the hell do you find the time? I’m considering jointing a Muay Thai or BJJ gym but have no idea how it can possibly fit into my schedule unless I stop working or give up my two rest days. And even if I give up my two rest days, that seems like a waste of money if I’m only gonna Muay Thai or BJJ twice a week.
 

KillerBEA

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Oct 26, 2017
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Tweaked my neck a bit doing DLs yesterday (also hi, I'm joining this thread) but feeling much better today. Currently working through Ivysaur's 4-4-8, which is basically a combo of SS/SL/Greyskull with more presses and alternating 100%/90% sets. I add in additional work as well - yesterday was some lat pulldowns and kettlebell snatches. The kettlebell snatch is FAR AND AWAY my favorite exercise these days.
I have become a big fan of kettlebells after forcing myself to train with them for the last year. Been working hard on Double Kettlebell Clean + Press since last July. Recently hit the 80lb Kettlebells for a Clean and pressed the 60s for 10 sets of 5. Feels good since I couldn't even Clean let alone press the 60s last July.
 

KillerBEA

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Oct 26, 2017
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Does anyone here do both weightlifting and some kind of martial arts? If so, how the hell do you find the time? I’m considering jointing a Muay Thai or BJJ gym but have no idea how it can possibly fit into my schedule unless I stop working or give up my two rest days. And even if I give up my two rest days, that seems like a waste of money if I’m only gonna Muay Thai or BJJ twice a week.
Chad Wesley Smith trains weights and BJJ and has been releasing videos about it on his Juggernaut Training Systems youtube channel. The likely scenario is your going to have to cut back on the weight training and cherry pick the most important things
 

Astral

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Chad Wesley Smith trains weights and BJJ and has been releasing videos about it on his Juggernaut Training Systems youtube channel. The likely scenario is your going to have to cut back on the weight training and cherry pick the most important things
Noooo. That’s what I was afraid of. In that case I’m not sure if I should bother with MA right now. I started a new routine maybe 3 months ago and I’m not looking to break it so soon, especially because I’ve been making steady progress. I’ll check out the YouTube channel though, thanks.
 
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Dead Prince

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Oct 25, 2017
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Got a hair cut and I need to try to be more productive during the weeekend or I’ll just consume everything and gain weight and just be lazy. So I’ll try to go to the gym today.
 

i-Lo

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Oct 31, 2017
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Looking for info on protein powder. I currently consume the Vegan blend (I am lactose intolerant) and was also recently looking into both Brown Rice and Pea protein isolate as "in addition to" the aforementioned blend.

I have grown accustomed to the chalky taste and texture of Vegan blend and was wondering which one of the two isolates would be closer in taste to the 'blend' and are there additional pointers I need to wary of with these isolates?

Thanks.
 

Teggy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I’ve been struggling to kickstart my weightloss so I decided to try an 8 hour feeding window, if anything just for the way it can reduce the amount of food you eat by skipping breakfast and then otherwise eating normal lunch, afternoon snack and dinner. Seems to be working well so far, although I do wonder if I can keep it up when I get employed again and have to get up earlier more consistently. Luckily I’ve gotten really into black coffee in the last year.
 

Tuorom

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Oct 30, 2017
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I’ve been struggling to kickstart my weightloss so I decided to try an 8 hour feeding window, if anything just for the way it can reduce the amount of food you eat by skipping breakfast and then otherwise eating normal lunch, afternoon snack and dinner. Seems to be working well so far, although I do wonder if I can keep it up when I get employed again and have to get up earlier more consistently. Luckily I’ve gotten really into black coffee in the last year.
I hear intermittent fasting is quite good for weight loss. Good luck with your journey!
 
I'm a bit worried about my weight loss. I'm losing about a pound a day despite increasing my daily calories and reducing my exercise. I even had two weeks recently where I did no exercise at all and still lost nearly 15 pounds. While I'm not going to really complain about the weight loss itself, I am a bit worried about how fast I'm losing it. For reference I'm 5'11" 225 lbs, and I'm pretty muscular for a woman. This isn't water weight either, as I've already lost a lot of weight in the last six months. I eat 2300 calories a day before exercise or work.

Should I be worried, or is my body just maybe heading towards its healthiest weight?
 

Gvon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hello fitness Era.

Loving the OP and I have a lot to read up on.

I guess a bit of background. I'm in the uk and I'm on a referal system allowing me to use the the gym 2 times a week.
I did a few cardio sessions just to see where my fitness is.
Luckily I felt fine and was able to bike for 30k and I've been walking a lot too. I did 31 miles at a good pace last week.

So, I've decided to start with weights. The first two seasons were 40 minutes, no real program, and getting used to the machines and free weights.
The last two sessions I did a full leg workout and some chest. That took about an hour.

This takes me to my question. Yesterday I was there for nearly 2 hours. I did my arms, back, upper and lower chest workouts.
I feel fine today, a little tired, but I'm eating right and looking after myself.
Is it safe or reasonable to be doing 2 hour weight sessions in the gym twice a week?

My worry is that it's not effective. Saying that I already feel and see a difference in the areas I've worked. I don't know why, but I've always put on muscle really quickly. Be it at work, or during my teens when I did competitive sports.
 

ArkhamFantasy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm a bit worried about my weight loss. I'm losing about a pound a day despite increasing my daily calories and reducing my exercise. I even had two weeks recently where I did no exercise at all and still lost nearly 15 pounds. While I'm not going to really complain about the weight loss itself, I am a bit worried about how fast I'm losing it. For reference I'm 5'11" 225 lbs, and I'm pretty muscular for a woman. This isn't water weight either, as I've already lost a lot of weight in the last six months. I eat 2300 calories a day before exercise or work.

Should I be worried, or is my body just maybe heading towards its healthiest weight?
That does seem unusual, if you had told me you were losing 7 lbs a week i definitely would have assumed you'd be eating alot less than 2300 calories a day, I would definitely recommend increasing your caloric intake and see if you can slow it down to 2-3 lbs a week instead of 7.

Hello fitness Era.

Loving the OP and I have a lot to read up on.

I guess a bit of background. I'm in the uk and I'm on a referal system allowing me to use the the gym 2 times a week.
I did a few cardio sessions just to see where my fitness is.
Luckily I felt fine and was able to bike for 30k and I've been walking a lot too. I did 31 miles at a good pace last week.

So, I've decided to start with weights. The first two seasons were 40 minutes, no real program, and getting used to the machines and free weights.
The last two sessions I did a full leg workout and some chest. That took about an hour.

This takes me to my question. Yesterday I was there for nearly 2 hours. I did my arms, back, upper and lower chest workouts.
I feel fine today, a little tired, but I'm eating right and looking after myself.
Is it safe or reasonable to be doing 2 hour weight sessions in the gym twice a week?

My worry is that it's not effective. Saying that I already feel and see a difference in the areas I've worked. I don't know why, but I've always put on muscle really quickly. Be it at work, or during my teens when I did competitive sports.
If you haven't lifted weights in a long time you're going to get beginner gains and basically anything will work, After about 6-12 months i'd highly recommend finding a program and sticking with it. I also don't think working out for 2 hours is necessary, you can super set upper body lifts like Bench Press and Rows, or Overhead press and pull ups because they work different muscle groups. That's why my workouts are only 40-60 minutes.
 

Gvon

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Oct 25, 2017
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In Dutch I pronounce it the same way as the word we use for poison: gif, with a hard, throat sound that most English speakers wouldn't find too appetizing.
That does seem unusual, if you had told me you were losing 7 lbs a week i definitely would have assumed you'd be eating alot less than 2300 calories a day, I would definitely recommend increasing your caloric intake and see if you can slow it down to 2-3 lbs a week instead of 7.



If you haven't lifted weights in a long time you're going to get beginner gains and basically anything will work, After about 6-12 months i'd highly recommend finding a program and sticking with it. I also don't think working out for 2 hours is necessary, you can super set upper body lifts like Bench Press and Rows, or Overhead press and pull ups because they work different muscle groups. That's why my workouts are only 40-60 minutes.

Thanks for the tips. I should of said it wasn't 2 hours of weights but with a good rest between each work out.
It's definitely something I want to take seriously and get right.
 

Weegian

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Oct 27, 2017
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Speaking of doctors, mine said during a physical this past week that I was skinny enough that she could get a good feel of my internal organs.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is that the bulk will continue.
 

Tuorom

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Oct 30, 2017
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I'm a bit worried about my weight loss. I'm losing about a pound a day despite increasing my daily calories and reducing my exercise. I even had two weeks recently where I did no exercise at all and still lost nearly 15 pounds. While I'm not going to really complain about the weight loss itself, I am a bit worried about how fast I'm losing it. For reference I'm 5'11" 225 lbs, and I'm pretty muscular for a woman. This isn't water weight either, as I've already lost a lot of weight in the last six months. I eat 2300 calories a day before exercise or work.

Should I be worried, or is my body just maybe heading towards its healthiest weight?
Wow 15 lbs in 2 weeks is a lot.

Did this involve a drastic change in diet? Or are you just reducing calories?
What exactly are you doing?
 

Tuorom

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Oct 30, 2017
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That's the thing, I didn't really do anything, I just started shedding pounds. I'm actually eating more than I was before, the only difference is I stopped drinking milk all the time a couple months ago
Ok, hmmm yea that is strange. Do you eat other dairy? If you cut out all dairy then maybe it was a food that your body didn't tolerate well.

In any case, I'd get a doctors opinion just to be safe. Losing that much weight within that short a period is concerning, or at least requires some investigation. What are your thoughts right now? Do you feel differently since you started losing all this weight? Like better or worse?
 
Ok, hmmm yea that is strange. Do you eat other dairy? If you cut out all dairy then maybe it was a food that your body didn't tolerate well.

In any case, I'd get a doctors opinion just to be safe. Losing that much weight within that short a period is concerning, or at least requires some investigation. What are your thoughts right now? Do you feel differently since you started losing all this weight? Like better or worse?
I've actually started eating a lot more yogurt so I might be having more dairy. I feel fine I guess? I'm just always tired and I heal slowly, but I've been that way a while.
I have been jogging a bit more lately but I always eat extra calories to make up for it.

I've reached out to my doctor to get her opinion, haven't heard back yet.
 
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DvdGzz

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Mar 21, 2018
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15 pounds isn't too much. When you begin dieting 90% of the loss in the first few weeks is water/glycogen and food in your system. I gained 18 pounds in 3 days on vacation recently. It sure wasn't even 2 pounds of real fat. Probably closer to 1.
 

Tuorom

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15 pounds isn't too much. When you begin dieting 90% of the loss in the first few weeks is water/glycogen and food in your system. I gained 18 pounds in 3 days on vacation recently. It sure wasn't even 2 pounds of real fat. Probably closer to 1.
Ummm read the posts again.

"That's the thing, I didn't really do anything, I just started shedding pounds. I'm actually eating more than I was before "
"I'm losing about a pound a day despite increasing my daily calories and reducing my exercise. I even had two weeks recently where I did no exercise at all and still lost nearly 15 pounds "
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'm a bit worried about my weight loss. I'm losing about a pound a day despite increasing my daily calories and reducing my exercise. I even had two weeks recently where I did no exercise at all and still lost nearly 15 pounds. While I'm not going to really complain about the weight loss itself, I am a bit worried about how fast I'm losing it. For reference I'm 5'11" 225 lbs, and I'm pretty muscular for a woman. This isn't water weight either, as I've already lost a lot of weight in the last six months. I eat 2300 calories a day before exercise or work.

Should I be worried, or is my body just maybe heading towards its healthiest weight?
I was losing weight at almost the same rate near the end of my most recent cut and I was mentally fatigued all the time and felt like shit. The results are addicting but I was not healthy. I'll never drop weight that fast again.
 

DvdGzz

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Mar 21, 2018
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Ummm read the posts again.

"That's the thing, I didn't really do anything, I just started shedding pounds. I'm actually eating more than I was before "
"I'm losing about a pound a day despite increasing my daily calories and reducing my exercise. I even had two weeks recently where I did no exercise at all and still lost nearly 15 pounds "
Well, here is a link for unexplained weight loss.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/symptoms/unexplained-weight-loss/basics/causes/sym-20050700

Now, if none of those apply then she is overestimating her intake.
 
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Dead Prince

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Oct 25, 2017
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i joined the BANG train because Target started carrying the energy drink. i picked up one can of Rainbow Unicorn. haven't tried it. will do so when i go to the gym today.