I do not. But everything that I've read has really made that Protein, Creatine, Caffeine are like the only things that kind of matter so I just stick to those. But that is just me and may differ with others.
I do not. But everything that I've read has really made that Protein, Creatine, Caffeine are like the only things that kind of matter so I just stick to those. But that is just me and may differ with others.
You are on the right track. All that work you put in won't go to waste. Fixing technique is all part of the process, don't be hard on yourself.Been gradually getting onto the Fitness train, with being able to clock in 100 press ups in 4 sets...or at least I would be if I hadn't realised I've been doing my form wrong this whole time. Just tried to do a couple of sets with the proper form and man I was exhausted after just 25 total! Very disappointed in myself as I thought I was on the right track and it'll take me a while to adjust but guess I just gotta press on.
Need to get onto that protein action as well, but preferably after a workout rather than before :)
1) Stop doing whatever is hurting you until it's healedPowerlifters, how do you deal with back pain? It keeps me from squatting and I gotta power through deadlifts. I can't even deadlift for reps because the movement alone is what hurts me. It's extremely discouraging. Last month I didn't deadlift for two weeks and my back felt great.
Assess your form, it is probably wrong. When I fixed my form, no more back pain at all.Powerlifters, how do you deal with back pain? It keeps me from squatting and I gotta power through deadlifts. I can't even deadlift for reps because the movement alone is what hurts me. It's extremely discouraging. Last month I didn't deadlift for two weeks and my back felt great.
Damn. I have around 3 rest days a week lol
You're not helping yourself by not resting.
I do not. But everything that I've read has really made that Protein, Creatine, Caffeine are like the only things that kind of matter so I just stick to those. But that is just me and may differ with others.
Same here. My back generally feels like its still in a knot 2 years after my injury. Went to a regular doc twice. After the first time did physical therapy and they cleared me. Came back since I still had issues and got a x-ray that came up negative. Only recently went back to starting strength 2 months and I'm doing fine on the exercises despite my back issue. No pain before or after but its still annoying how I feel something off when resting.I hurt my back a couple of years ago because I did some dumb shit squatting. Then I injured it again about a year after that. I'm basically in some kind of discomfort every day of my life since then but it doesn't actually hurt until after I deadlift or squat.
But what kind of rest is optimal? Does it go gym gym gym rest rest or gym rest gym rest gym?
for me it really depends. Sometimes the day after leg day is tough for me to go back to the gym so I'll rest that day for sure, other times I'm totally fine that day and I'll go to the gym.But what kind of rest is optimal? Does it go gym gym gym rest rest or gym rest gym rest gym?
But what kind of rest is optimal? Does it go gym gym gym rest rest or gym rest gym rest gym?
Depends how hard you're working, and what you're working.But what kind of rest is optimal? Does it go gym gym gym rest rest or gym rest gym rest gym?
If you ever get checked out again, get an MRI and not an x-ray.Same here. My back generally feels like its still in a knot 2 years after my injury. Went to a regular doc twice. After the first time did physical therapy and they cleared me. Came back since I still had issues and got a x-ray that came up negative. Only recently went back to starting strength 2 months and I'm doing fine on the exercises despite my back issue. No pain before or after but its still annoying how I feel something off when resting.
Depends how hard you're working, and what you're working.
Example: if you're doing a bodybuilding split and hitting different groups everyday then you probably don't need any rest days since the time between the specific groups is enough.
if you're doing a push/pull split then you want some rest days in between since you are hitting the same group at least twice a week with load. Usually that looks like push.pull.rest.push.pull.rest.rest. or push.pull.rest.push.rest.pull.rest
Attached to your pelvis I hope.
What's a bar pass?Working my bar pass during benchpress has been an eye opener
I was doing it all wrong -_-
oh, i was looking up bar pass and thought it may be slang or something lol
I would argue that deadlifts are a push exercise too since if you're doing it right, your arms and shoulders are holding the bar steady while you drive the weight through your ankles and launch off the floor.Attached to your pelvis I hope.
If you are talking about push/pull then push could be squats, and pull could be deadlifts.
I've been there. When I started to make sure I touched the bar to my chest each time, I realised I wasn't nearly as strong as I thought I was.Working my bar pass during benchpress has been an eye opener
I was doing it all wrong -_-
For the deadlift the lift is a push until the bar gets to your knees. It is a pull after that.I would argue that deadlifts are a push exercise too since if you're doing it right, your arms and shoulders are holding the bar steady while you drive the weight through your ankles and launch off the floor.
Or maybe that's just how I visualise the movement so I'm not tempted to arch my back like a cat to get the bar off the floor.
I've been there. When I started to make sure I touched the bar to my chest each time, I realised I wasn't nearly as strong as I thought I was.
It wasn't so much as touching the chest (I always did that)I would argue that deadlifts are a push exercise too since if you're doing it right, your arms and shoulders are holding the bar steady while you drive the weight through your ankles and launch off the floor.
Or maybe that's just how I visualise the movement so I'm not tempted to arch my back like a cat to get the bar off the floor.
I've been there. When I started to make sure I touched the bar to my chest each time, I realised I wasn't nearly as strong as I thought I was.
It wasn't so much as touching the chest (I always did that)
It was touching at the right spot on the chest with the proper position at the top and on the chest and using good leg « push »(?)
Indeed.Don't forget the engage and retract scapula keeping your shoulders pinned back the entire movement. That's the biggest thing I see missing when going to the gym even with those that do full range of motion.
You're not wrong but I put it in pull day because it is a posterior chain exercise which has lots of muscles which do pulling. You don't push while hip hinging, or keeping your shoulders retracted, etc.I would argue that deadlifts are a push exercise too since if you're doing it right, your arms and shoulders are holding the bar steady while you drive the weight through your ankles and launch off the floor.
Or maybe that's just how I visualise the movement so I'm not tempted to arch my back like a cat to get the bar off the floor.
What do you mean by holds? As in mid rep? Bottom of the rep? because at the top it's pointlessDoes anyone do heavy timed holds? First time hearing about it and I tried it on the bench press because I feel like I'm hitting a plateau. It looks awkward but I do feel something.
What do you mean by holds? As in mid rep? Bottom of the rep? because at the top it's pointless
Stop your press on your chest for 5 seconds then get it back upYeah it's at the top lol. I saw some big dudes doing it and I looked it up. I'm not sure exactly what's holding me back on bench press. Sometimes it feels like it's the lockout but sometimes it's hard to get off my chest. Today I was good but I can't do more than 3x3 225 right now.
Not pointless. Lots of powerlifters do this for a psychological benefit. More common with squatting though.What do you mean by holds? As in mid rep? Bottom of the rep? because at the top it's pointless
At the top it's not the arms or even the pecs that are working, you'Re in a locked position so you should be able to hold it for a long time with very little effort. I don'T really see the point or what you would be working doing it?Not pointless. Lots of powerlifters do this for a psychological benefit. More common with squatting though.
The other thing you are taking about is a pause rep. Good for training when you are weak at the bottom of the lift, not just general strength. Unless you are competing in bench, where it is required to pause.
The holds (not really a hold because you aren't doing it for time) are not for strengthening, they are psychological mostly. Can be used for technique a practice as well since unracking (and squat walkouts) properly is a problem for some people.At the top it's not the arms or even the pecs that are working, you'Re in a locked position so you should be able to hold it for a long time with very little effort. I don'T really see the point or what you would be working doing it?
And yes the stop is to strenghten your usually weakest spot during a bench press, allowing you to bench more.
At least it works for me :p
Yeah it's at the top lol. I saw some big dudes doing it and I looked it up. I'm not sure exactly what's holding me back on bench press. Sometimes it feels like it's the lockout but sometimes it's hard to get off my chest. Today I was good but I can't do more than 3x3 225 right now.
At the top it's not the arms or even the pecs that are working, you'Re in a locked position so you should be able to hold it for a long time with very little effort. I don'T really see the point or what you would be working doing it?
And yes the stop is to strenghten your usually weakest spot during a bench press, allowing you to bench more.
At least it works for me :p
I use alternate pause reps with dumbells. Keep left tense midway and do my reps with right, then keep right tense midway then do left.Your bones don't hold anything without muscles working. Holding at the top has a specific use, and that's keeping tension at the top. And like jvalioli said, it carries neurological benefits although when people do top holds it is with a weight which is heavier than they can actually use. It primes everything, gets all your muscles firing just holding it.
Pause reps are fantastic.
The variation between a mediocre bench day and a good bench press day when everything is set up right, I stay tight, my bar path is ideal is huge for me. The difference between struggling with one rep at a given weight or hitting it for 3-5. I still haven't nailed it down and gotten it consistently.It wasn't so much as touching the chest (I always did that)
It was touching at the right spot on the chest with the proper position at the top and on the chest and using good leg « push »(?)
Yep it's the difference between doing 2-3 reps at 225 and doing 5 reps at 245. It may seem like a small variation but the effort required is so huge.The variation between a mediocre bench day and a good bench press day when everything is set up right, I stay tight, my bar path is ideal is huge for me. The difference between struggling with one rep at a given weight or hitting it for 3-5. I still haven't nailed it down and gotten it consistently.
Since I can't see you squat I can only comment on the glute stuff. What does your warm up look like? What activation drills do you do?Had to abandon my squat halfway through my warm up sets. I got unexpected lower back pain (not bad - just sudden and uncomfortable) right at the bottom of the squat. I racked the bar for a minute and tried again, thinking it might have been a weird positional thing or not bracing correctly, but I really concentrated on my form and it happened again.
Luckily today is the last workout before I go on deload next week, so a weeklong rest will probably set things right. Still, it's frustrating.
I'm up in my head lately about whether or not I've been activating my glutes correctly during squats and not overworking my spine erectors, so I keep circling back to that as an explanation. At the top of the squat I brace by gripping the bar hard, sucking in my stomach and squeezing my glutes, but by the time I reach parallel, I can never tell if the glutes are still doing what they should.
I do 5/3/1 so my training weights are always very sub-maximal, but all the same, I've reached a point where I'm routinely squatting more than my body weight for 10 or more reps and I'm finding that good form makes more of a difference than it ever did previously. I want to make sure I'm not doing myself long term harm.
Had to abandon my squat halfway through my warm up sets. I got unexpected lower back pain (not bad - just sudden and uncomfortable) right at the bottom of the squat. I racked the bar for a minute and tried again, thinking it might have been a weird positional thing or not bracing correctly, but I really concentrated on my form and it happened again.
Luckily today is the last workout before I go on deload next week, so a weeklong rest will probably set things right. Still, it's frustrating.
I'm up in my head lately about whether or not I've been activating my glutes correctly during squats and not overworking my spine erectors, so I keep circling back to that as an explanation. At the top of the squat I brace by gripping the bar hard, sucking in my stomach and squeezing my glutes, but by the time I reach parallel, I can never tell if the glutes are still doing what they should.
I do 5/3/1 so my training weights are always very sub-maximal, but all the same, I've reached a point where I'm routinely squatting more than my body weight for 10 or more reps and I'm finding that good form makes more of a difference than it ever did previously. I want to make sure I'm not doing myself long term harm.
It's basically just kegels, if I remember, followed by some air squats. What I consistently do is to warm up by doing the movement at a light weight (based on a set percentage of my training max)Since I can't see you squat I can only comment on the glute stuff. What does your warm up look like? What activation drills do you do?
I'm taking the next week off anyway, so I'll have to see how I feel after. It's been a few months since I last did a deload.I'd rest it for a bit and try ramping up to your current squat later. It could just be a sprain. If it continues past that then I'd be more worried.
I've run 531 before so I'm pretty familiar. Kegels though? Is that basically glute bridge work? Do your glutes actually activate during it or do your hamstrings activate instead? Banded squats instead of air squats would work better.It's basically just kegels, if I remember, followed by some air squats. What I consistently do is to warm up by doing the movement at a light weight (based on a set percentage of my training max)
Warm up (always the same):
5 @ 40%
5 @ 50%
5 @ 60%
Main set (reps and percentages change week to week):
5 @ 75%
3 @ 85%
1+ @ 95% (this is minimum - you try for PRs on this set)
Supplementary volume work:
5 x 5 @ 75%
I'm taking the next week off anyway, so I'll have to see how I feel after. It's been a few months since I last did a deload.
I can't actually tell if it's my glutes or upper thighs that activate, now that you mention it. I have a few bands around the place, so I'll give banded squats a go while I recover.I've run 531 before so I'm pretty familiar. Kegels though? Is that basically glute bridge work? Do your glutes actually activate during it or do your hamstrings activate instead? Banded squats instead of air squats would work better.
Here is my squat warmup if you want to borrow some things. It is long because my squatting has always been shit.
Core:
Shoulder crunches
Side plank
Bird dog or dead bug
Glutes:
Hip circle straight walk
Hip circle wide walk
Hip circle side walk
Hip circle squat
Glute bridge
Clam shells
Limbering up:
Pvx pipe passthroughs
Cat cow
Leg swings (front to back and side to side)
Had to abandon my squat halfway through my warm up sets. I got unexpected lower back pain (not bad - just sudden and uncomfortable) right at the bottom of the squat. I racked the bar for a minute and tried again, thinking it might have been a weird positional thing or not bracing correctly, but I really concentrated on my form and it happened again.
Luckily today is the last workout before I go on deload next week, so a weeklong rest will probably set things right. Still, it's frustrating.
I'm up in my head lately about whether or not I've been activating my glutes correctly during squats and not overworking my spine erectors, so I keep circling back to that as an explanation. At the top of the squat I brace by gripping the bar hard, sucking in my stomach and squeezing my glutes, but by the time I reach parallel, I can never tell if the glutes are still doing what they should.
I do 5/3/1 so my training weights are always very sub-maximal, but all the same, I've reached a point where I'm routinely squatting more than my body weight for 10 or more reps and I'm finding that good form makes more of a difference than it ever did previously. I want to make sure I'm not doing myself long term harm.