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Quads are the new bicep.
Lol that's such "BRO" tips.

I'd say the best indicator of fitness is the development of someones back and glutes, but that shit won't fly with the workout bro community. They only care about what you can see in a mirror.

And most pec development is probably done with flyes, not the barbell bench press which uses a lot of tricep.

https://www.t-nation.com/training/inside-the-muscles-best-chest-and-triceps-exercises

Dips, dumbbell bench (because of the horizontal flexion you don't get from a barbell), dumbbell/cable flyes, push ups. These are your best bets.

It's odd how often the barbell bench press is recommended for chest development rather than dumbbells.



People should check out this guys channel wanting information on fitness, although it is targeted more towards muscle growth than other factors.

 
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I Don't Like

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Don't wear stupid t-shirts to the gym, kids. Went last night and some fucking prick had a shirt with "SOCIALISM IS FOR F*GS" on it. The "a" was censored but still. Can't imagine gay members appreciated it. That gym has a lot of bros and I've been a member for 9 years and never seen anyone wearing something that fucking stupid.

Known the manager personally for 7 years so I just pinged her. Last time that dipshit gets checked in wearing that.
 

jvalioli

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Don't wear stupid t-shirts to the gym, kids. Went last night and some fucking prick had a shirt with "SOCIALISM IS FOR F*GS" on it. The "a" was censored but still. Can't imagine gay members appreciated it. That gym has a lot of bros and I've been a member for 9 years and never seen anyone wearing something that fucking stupid.

Known the manager personally for 7 years so I just pinged her. Last time that dipshit gets checked in wearing that.
I live in San Francisco so I don't think anyone would get 3 feet into the gym wearing that. Does remind me of being in vacation in Florida earlier where everyone was basically wearing 2nd amendment and USA flag tanks.
 

I Don't Like

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So only last night I decided to look up carbs in Blue Moon - which is my go-to long-term drinking beer - and it's fucking 14g. 14 per 12oz. Last night I had three tall blue moons and by my count that's over 60g carbs. Fuck. Tonight I officially broke up with blue moon and ordered Michelob ultra which is only 2.9

I've always known beer has held me back from being in ultimate shape, even working out a million times a week, but I can't believe I never bothered to look up how much. Lmao. End of an era. Friendship with Blue Moon over - Michelob ultra is my best friend now. I'm kind of sad but also kind of relieved.

My go-to when I stay home is still Flying Dog Double Dog which is probably a shitload of carbs too but it's almost 12% ABV so a 6-pack can last me two weekends.

I'll miss you Blue Moon. I love you.
 
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I live in San Francisco so I don't think anyone would get 3 feet into the gym wearing that. Does remind me of being in vacation in Florida earlier where everyone was basically wearing 2nd amendment and USA flag tanks.
Lifting in Florida is a nightmare. There's a regular who goes at the same time as me, and during my last visit I overheard him telling another guy that the Clintons were "the most corrupt family in the history of American politics."
 

tellNoel

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I got a new full time job and I'm in my last semester of school full-time so I stopped going to the gym for almost two weeks just to get a hang of juggling both.

Today I went back to break in my muscles again so I did the Big 4, and I thought I was going to pass out mid workout.

hopefully, today was enough to get me back in the groove again for next week
 
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I got a new full time job and I'm in my last semester of school full-time so I stopped going to the gym for almost two weeks just to get a hang of juggling both.

Today I went back to break in my muscles again so I did the Big 4, and I thought I was going to pass out mid workout.

hopefully, today was enough to get me back in the groove again for next week

I do not think a 2 week break should be a cause of significant difference.
 

GrapeApes

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Don't wear stupid t-shirts to the gym, kids. Went last night and some fucking prick had a shirt with "SOCIALISM IS FOR F*GS" on it. The "a" was censored but still. Can't imagine gay members appreciated it. That gym has a lot of bros and I've been a member for 9 years and never seen anyone wearing something that fucking stupid.

Known the manager personally for 7 years so I just pinged her. Last time that dipshit gets checked in wearing that.
That kid is a Stephen Crowder shitheel.
 

steveovig

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Oct 25, 2017
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I never realized until I thought about it today but a few weeks ago I managed to hit the 1000 lbs. club for my bench, squat, and sumo. Even though it doesn't include conventional deads, it still feels real good especially since I haven't gotten too fat on this bulk.
 
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I talked with a friend about dexa scans. I dunno, but it just does not seem to really produce actionable information to me. Why do you buy a dexa scan and what do you actually do with the information?
 

jvalioli

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I talked with a friend about dexa scans. I dunno, but it just does not seem to really produce actionable information to me. Why do you buy a dexa scan and what do you actually do with the information?
Here are the actionable pieces I personally use:

Muscle imbalances: because it measures your limbs you can see, for example, if your right leg has more muscle than your left. If the difference is significant (>2 lbs) you need to put in work to correct as it can lead to injury.

Visceral fat: Visceral fat can lead to heart disease so it if the scan shows any it means I need to fix my diet or possibly see a dietician. It can lead to heart disease.

Body fat/lean mass: just to make sure I'm actually gaining muscle and losing fat over time. More accurate than most other ways of measure since it is a whole body scan.
 
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Here are the actionable pieces I personally use:

Muscle imbalances: because it measures your limbs you can see, for example, if your right leg has more muscle than your left. If the difference is significant (>2 lbs) you need to put in work to correct as it can lead to injury.

Visceral fat: Visceral fat can lead to heart disease so it if the scan shows any it means I need to fix my diet or possibly see a dietician. It can lead to heart disease.

Body fat/lean mass: just to make sure I'm actually gaining muscle and losing fat over time. More accurate than most other ways of measure since it is a whole body scan.

yup this.

It also gives me a baseline and numbers to improve upon that I know are the most accurate as opposed to other means.

Like if you don't have Dexa available, calipers or bodpods etc will do but I know I at least have the most accurate numbers with this.
 
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ArkhamFantasy

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So a supplement company reached out to me and sent me a few free things to try including protein, pre-workout and some creatine.

The creatine only has 2g of Creatine according to the label.. I currently take 5g a day of Creatine Monohydrate. Should I be using upping this to 5g? Going to assume yes.

This is the creatine they sent me.


Always follow the label, HCL is different from monohydrate.
 

jvalioli

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So a supplement company reached out to me and sent me a few free things to try including protein, pre-workout and some creatine.

The creatine only has 2g of Creatine according to the label.. I currently take 5g a day of Creatine Monohydrate. Should I be using upping this to 5g? Going to assume yes.

This is the creatine they sent me.

Fwiw this stuff sucks. I know you got it for free but I wouldn't get anymore of it after you finish the free one.
 

Metalix

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First time back in the gym for ~5 weeks on Saturday, finished where I left on in my deload process with deloaded squats + auxiliary exercises. Ow.

Think I'll do another deload week to acclimatise.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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My waist measurements are showing that my progress is probably better than expected. BMI calculator still puts me at 25.something, slightly overweight but navy method has me around 15%bf. Picture comparison seems to be pretty close as well. Not that this bit of information really changes things, it is somewhat interesting to check.
 
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My waist measurements are showing that my progress is probably better than expected. BMI calculator still puts me at 25.something, slightly overweight but navy method has me around 15%bf. Picture comparison seems to be pretty close as well. Not that this bit of information really changes things, it is somewhat interesting to check.
Congrats on the waist reductions!

I should note that the Navy Method is straight up garbage. Sorry. It's just a really bad way to measure and favors too heavily on neck measurements. honestly comparing a pic relatively to other people and where they are in terms of body fat would be more accurate than that calc
 
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Congrats on the waist reductions!

I should note that the Navy Method is straight up garbage. Sorry. It's just a really bad way to measure and favors too heavily on neck measurements. honestly comparing a pic relatively to other people and where they are in terms of body fat would be more accurate than that calc

I totally agree with the neck thing and I had criticized that part of it before in fact. My neck used to be thicker for sure, and as I lost weight and neck size according to the navy method I actually had gained body fat, not lost it - lol. I used to care more about BF just to get a clue on my lean mass, but I realized knowing a ballpark amount is enough and give or take 5% BF is not going to change my macronutrients much anyway. I would rather over eat protein and slightly under eat fats, so I am okay with approximations.
 

Tuorom

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So only last night I decided to look up carbs in Blue Moon - which is my go-to long-term drinking beer - and it's fucking 14g. 14 per 12oz. Last night I had three tall blue moons and by my count that's over 60g carbs. Fuck. Tonight I officially broke up with blue moon and ordered Michelob ultra which is only 2.9

I've always known beer has held me back from being in ultimate shape, even working out a million times a week, but I can't believe I never bothered to look up how much. Lmao. End of an era. Friendship with Blue Moon over - Michelob ultra is my best friend now. I'm kind of sad but also kind of relieved.

My go-to when I stay home is still Flying Dog Double Dog which is probably a shitload of carbs too but it's almost 12% ABV so a 6-pack can last me two weekends.

I'll miss you Blue Moon. I love you.

Embrace the carb load
 

Oliver James

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Oct 25, 2017
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So what the hey, I've gotten prehypertension and I always work out. I wonder if it's because I walked a few kilometers under the sweltering sun before doing my physical exam. But that was before, earlier I still gotten a range that is considered pre. This sucks.
 

KillerBEA

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Oct 26, 2017
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Changed gyms. At a gym now with a bunch strongman stuff and cool specialty bars now instead of anytime fitness. Only $5 more a month and still 24 hour access. Slightly longer drive but its negligible. So freaking happy, and super excited to actually be able to train with implements.
 
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Yeah - Chicken Sandwich ... Unless you want to be insane and do a Chicken and Protein Waffle Sandwich xD


Forgot to post a progress photo when I got my bf% scan last week.

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Left (August) = 25% body fat - 39.1lbs of fat - 111.8lbs of lean tissue
Middle (September) = 21.4% body fat - 32.6lbs of fat - 114.2lbs of lean tissue
Right (October) = 18.2% body fat - 27.2lbs of fat - 116.9lbs of lean tissue
 
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I don't know if you really ever qualified as skinny fat. At least not by appearance. That to me was always people who looked good with clothes on but obviously fatter without clothes.

We are about the same height actually. I really expected you to say something like 5'6/7.
he got the thicc tree stump legs. 👀
 
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I think there are 2 types of skinny fat. The commonly referred one I think is where people refer to people who are skinny with little lean muscle so the fat is fairly obvious. Then there is metabolic skinny fat where people are metabolically fat despite being skinny. You could actually be skinny and have type 2 diabetes because of genetics. Your body pretty much has a predetermined amount of fat cells and they just fill up or deflate. Someone with very few fat cells can have metabolic issues that are similar to obesity because their small amount of fat cells just fill up super fast. That is legit skinny fat.

Not gonna knock on people using skinny fat how they want, but I think there is actual skinny fat people that by appearance you could maybe not even tell.
 
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I don't know if you really ever qualified as skinny fat. At least not by appearance. That to me was always people who looked good with clothes on but obviously fatter without clothes.

We are about the same height actually. I really expected you to say something like 5'6/7.

I just have literally no lean muscle tissue. It's also hard to tell but I do have a gut in the first pic. First pic my visceral fat was almost 1.5lbs. As you can see I've adjusted my angle on photos hah.

skinny fat does look fine in clothes, I did not with them off. I actually kinda had man boobs and a really bad gut with clothes on still

he got the thicc tree stump legs. 👀

I only wish. Fairly skinny legs. :(

I think there are 2 types of skinny fat. The commonly referred one I think is where people refer to people who are skinny with little lean muscle so the fat is fairly obvious. Then there is metabolic skinny fat where people are metabolically fat despite being skinny. You could actually be skinny and have type 2 diabetes because of genetics. Your body pretty much has a predetermined amount of fat cells and they just fill up or deflate. Someone with very few fat cells can have metabolic issues that are similar to obesity because their small amount of fat cells just fill up super fast. That is legit skinny fat.

Not gonna knock on people using skinny fat how they want, but I think there is actual skinny fat people that by appearance you could maybe not even tell.

I mean, my fat isn't obvious as displayed above but I knew I had very lean muscle and fit every single definition as skinny fat above. Even the people I see for my scans note that. So it makes sense.
 

jvalioli

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I just have literally no lean muscle tissue. It's also hard to tell but I do have a gut in the first pic. First pic my visceral fat was almost 1.5lbs. As you can see I've adjusted my angle on photos hah.

skinny fat does look fine in clothes, I did not with them off. I actually kinda had man boobs and a really bad gut with clothes on still



I only wish. Fairly skinny legs. :(



I mean, my fat isn't obvious as displayed above but I knew I had very lean muscle and fit every single definition as skinny fat above. Even the people I see for my scans note that. So it makes sense.
I 100% believe you were fat. That scan don't lie. Just jealous of how well your body seems to distribute it.
 

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First proper rest week since Feb, feels so good. Can't wait until I can switch to maintenance rather than bulking.
 

Tuorom

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I was looking at this hex bar thing at my gym while doing conventional deadlifts. Now watched a YT video saying hex bar is actually better.
It's not necessarily better. It's just an option which is equally as good for deadlifts as conventional or sumo.

It's more upright so that might benefit certain people.
It's higher off the ground to grab so that might benefit certain people.

Give the hex bar a shot and if it feels better to use, then use it. There is no "best", only what's best for you.
 
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It's not necessarily better. It's just an option which is equally as good for deadlifts as conventional or sumo.

It's more upright so that might benefit certain people.
It's higher off the ground to grab so that might benefit certain people.

Give the hex bar a shot and if it feels better to use, then use it. There is no "best", only what's best for you.

I do not doubt individual results vary.

Here is the study though. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21659894

Abstract
The purpose of the investigation was to compare the kinematics and kinetics of the deadlift performed with 2 distinct barbells across a range of submaximal loads. Nineteen male powerlifters performed the deadlift with a conventional straight barbell and a hexagonal barbell that allowed the lifter to stand within its frame. Subjects performed trials at maximum speed with loads of 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, and 80% of their predetermined 1-repetition maximum (1RM). Inverse dynamics and spatial tracking of the external resistance were used to quantify kinematic and kinetic variables. Subjects were able to lift a heavier 1RM load in the hexagonal barbell deadlift (HBD) than the straight barbell deadlift (SBD) (265 ± 41 kg vs. 245 ± 39 kg, p < 0.05). The design of the hexagonal barbell significantly altered the resistance moment at the joints analyzed (p < 0.05), resulting in lower peak moments at the lumbar spine, hip, and ankle (p < 0.05) and an increased peak moment at the knee (p < 0.05). Maximum peak power values of 4,388 ± 713 and 4,872 ± 636 W were obtained for the SBD and HBD, respectively (p < 0.05). Across the submaximal loads, significantly greater peak force, peak velocity and peak power values were produced during the HBD compared to during the SBD (p < 0.05). The results demonstrate that the choice of barbell used to perform the deadlift has a significant effect on a range of kinematic and kinetic variables. The enhanced mechanical stimulus obtained with the hexagonal barbell suggests that in general the HBD is a more effective exercise than the SBD.

I am definitely going to give it a shot.
 

Tuorom

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I do not doubt individual results vary.

Here is the study though. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21659894



I am definitely going to give it a shot.

All that study really says to me is what everyone knows already. The hex bar goes "through" your legs into the middle of your center of mass which means it's less stressful on you and also means it's a better position to generate power. It is better in terms of leverages.
Example - The most I've deadlifted has been on a hex (405) compared to my conventional at the time (365). It should be easier because of the biomechanics.

Saying it's a better exercise is a bit dubious. Is it better for Olympic lifters? Doubtful, they want the specificity of the barbell implement.
Is it better for the average person? Probably.

Ah, it does say "it's more effective in general" in the study.

But yea, give it a go and see how it feels for you.