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Footage of Michael Jackson ring shopping with a young boy resurfaces

Oct 25, 2017
15,496
So many questions.

The "costume" is ridiculous. What is the point? Seriously, you're a dude dressed like a complete idiot, with a child in tow, looking to buy rings in a jewelry store. How did you NOT think that you wouldn't be stopped, have to admit to who you were, and not be on every piece of media out there?

Michael Jackson had one of the most recognizable faces on the planet. If he was going to do something shady like buying rings for a child that has no relation to him, why wouldn't he have one of his people do that for him. Hell why wouldn't he have the starstruck parents do it for him?

Where is Michael's handlers? He's in a public place wearing a non-costume with someone else's child with NO security or entourage. How was that safe for him or the child?

So confused.
Because he knew he could get away with it. Parents let their children sleep with him. Nobody asked questions or batted an eye.
 
Oct 27, 2017
7,119
I'll be honest. I was raised on MJ and his music was so influential to my early childhood that I'll never not listen. I used to visit my cousins and sit and watch MJ videos for hours. I would be lying if I said that I would stop listening to his classics. As for the man himself, it only continues to look worse and worse. If he was alive I feel like my response would be very much different.

For those who aren't extreme MJ fans it might sound crazy but the dude was literally larger than life.
Enjoy music crafted by the same hands that committed disgusting acts. Fucking gross.
 
Oct 25, 2017
11,080
Terana
What's not clear? Why don't you believe his victims? Especially in the face of all this evidence?

At a certain point you just need to connect the dots here. Michael Jackson was a pedophile/serial sexual abuser.
 
Oct 25, 2017
15,496
If there was any doubting Safechuck's validity here's literal video proof further backing up his claims

My cousin was up on FB earlier today posting up that graphic posted a ton in the Neverland topic that's trying to discredit the victims and it made me pretty sick.
And yet you still have people moving goalposts and engaging in ridiculous mental gymnastics (maybe Jimmy bought the rings himself!). The image Jackson created and the power it has over people is incredible. Robson was dead on in the doc when he said Jackson groomed the entire world.
 
Worth noting that the people who try to defame the victims coordinate on websites like "MichaelJacksonInnocent.com" where they spam threads with pre-made infographics full of misinformation from said sites, and the people who say it's just them coming forward feeling better are like normal ass posters who watched the documentary.
Yeah, it's all a big hazy mess. You're going to have different sides as he was such a big worldwide star, with people giving different info with what is available to them and how they view things.

Michael Jackson threads are going to be a headache for people no matter what you believe unless some decree is given by God himself giving an official ruling. I don't know how any thread on him can come to a safe ending until that, unless somehow discussion on him is banned totally.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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..have you actually watched the full documentary and Oprah interview?
Yes, maybe I phrased it incorrectly. I meant it was possible Safechuck bought the rings he showed off in the documentary sometime when he was an adult and the reason he did so is that he knew as a child he was with Michael when he went ring shopping so it would corroborate what he was saying. Not saying it's likely at all just it's those doubts that make me struggle to believe it as 100% fact. Unless you're going on about something else?
 
Oct 25, 2017
15,496
Yeah, it's all a big hazy mess. You're going to have different sides as he was such a big worldwide star, with people giving different info with what is available to them and how they view things. Michael Jackson threads are going to be a headache for people no matter what you believe unless some decree is given by God himself giving an official ruling. I don't know how any thread on him can come to a safe ending until that, unless somehow discussion on him is banned totally.
Michael Jackson discussions are a headache because of people like you.
 
Nov 26, 2017
319
UK
Yes, maybe I phrased it incorrectly. I meant it was possible Safechuck bought the rings he showed off in the documentary sometime when he was an adult and the reason he did so is that he knew as a child he was with Michael when he went ring shopping so it would corroborate what he was saying. Not saying it's likely at all just it's those doubts that make me struggle to believe it as 100% fact. Unless you're going on about something else?
This is ridiculous.
 
Jul 12, 2018
98
I think it's safe to say anyone defending him at this point is simply a troll trying to stir the pot.
Or they know hes guilty and just don't care because they like his music. Thing is He wasn't even that good. Michael Jackson's success was due to Quincy Jones far more than Michael Jackson. It's not a coincidence that after they stopped working together MJ never made another song worth listening to. Just another mediocre pedophile.
 
Nov 8, 2017
3,787
UK
Yes, maybe I phrased it incorrectly. I meant it was possible Safechuck bought the rings he showed off in the documentary sometime when he was an adult and the reason he did so is that he knew as a child he was with Michael when he went ring shopping so it would corroborate what he was saying. Not saying it's likely at all just it's those doubts that make me struggle to believe it as 100% fact. Unless you're going on about something else?
Just fucking floored someone can watch James tell his account in the documentary and interview, and then go on to suggest he could have staged it all and bought the rings that he shows during one of the most harrowing moments of the documentary. In a thread with CCTV footage of Michael buying rings with an unrelated boy.

Just trash, fucking trash.
 
Oct 25, 2017
15,496
Yes, maybe I phrased it incorrectly. I meant it was possible Safechuck bought the rings he showed off in the documentary sometime when he was an adult and the reason he did so is that he knew as a child he was with Michael when he went ring shopping so it would corroborate what he was saying. Not saying it's likely at all just it's those doubts that make me struggle to believe it as 100% fact. Unless you're going on about something else?
Do you extend these kind of outlandish, unlikely (even in your own words) hypotheticals to other victims of abuse or does it only apply when its the guy who wrote Thriller so you want so badly for it to not be true? What you wrote is about as likely as the “It’s R Kelly’s twin brother in the video!” or “it was OJ’s son that committed the murders!” yet would you for a second entertain any of that bullshit?
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yes, maybe I phrased it incorrectly. I meant it was possible Safechuck bought the rings he showed off in the documentary sometime when he was an adult and the reason he did so is that he knew as a child he was with Michael when he went ring shopping so it would corroborate what he was saying. Not saying it's likely at all just it's those doubts that make me struggle to believe it as 100% fact. Unless you're going on about something else?
All I'm saying is that AI is a thing now. How do I not know that the video wasn't generated by AI and isn't completely fake? It's concerns like this which makes me not able to 100% commit to the idea that he's a pedophile (and btw any percentage below 100% is functionally the same as 0% but I can't say I don't believe them or I'll get banned tee hee).
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Boise, Idaho
Isn't there a bit in the South Park episode with him where he wears a cheap fake mustache and it keeps falling off? Wonder if that's a reference that went over my head until now or a huge coincidence.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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How about read the OP? The information is in the first post.
Well I'm not the one who asked the question, but I personally would ask for proof rather than what is in the OP. However this ring situation isn't new to me and so I don't need to have anything about it confirmed. It's fine to want definitive proof though. People shouldn't be chastised for that.
 
Oct 27, 2017
7,119
Sure I also eat meat and drive a car that runs on gas, I should just kill myself to avoid supporting anything evil.
Obviously not, but when you know 100% fact that this ONE person is behind awful acts, you mean to tell me you can't turn it down? Comparing food and transportation to music as well. Good lord.
 
Nov 8, 2017
3,787
UK
I don't know how any thread on him can come to a safe ending until that, unless somehow discussion on him is banned totally.
Banning all the relentless twats like yourself who persist in just 'saying facts' in efforts to discredit and have-wave child abuse victims would be a good start.
 
Oct 25, 2017
15,496
“I’m just asking questions!”
“I need definitive proof!”
“I just can’t get behind it!”

Jesus do y’all subscribe to the same newsletter or something?
 
Oct 25, 2017
11,080
Terana
And yet you still have people moving goalposts and engaging in ridiculous mental gymnastics (maybe Jimmy bought the rings himself!). The image Jackson created and the power it has over people is incredible. Robson was dead on in the doc when he said Jackson groomed the entire world.
Seriously. Oh, but he was just a weird dude, who never had a childhood. And he's dead! Leave him alone! It's all cult-like and it's all really sickening once you get past the facade of the artist and his works. All that art takes on a new light knowing the truth.

What upsets me is that people completely ignore the fact that he deceptively groomed/destroyed families and ruined childhoods/actively sought to destroy the credibility/lives of anyone that would ever believe otherwise. No, he really wasn't this innocent naive Peter Pan figure, he was a ruthless predator. And he fucking bought and spent literal millions of his dollars on acres of secluded land, a gigantic estate, and a literal amusement park/zoo to entice and have sex with adolescent boys while flaunting it in everyone's face.

It's fucking sickening that there's anyone really trying to question it at this point. And though I feel for Robson/Safechuck, I feel most of all for Arvizo who's name got dragged through the mud but we now know was probably telling the truth and never got proper justice for what was done to him.
 
Jan 8, 2018
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earth
Between this and the sleeping in beds with little boys behind locked doors and the child pornography found at his home and the multiple detailed allegations, I'm inclined to believe this is all a giant conspiracy against Michael Jackson. What other conclusion is there?
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Yes, maybe I phrased it incorrectly. I meant it was possible Safechuck bought the rings he showed off in the documentary sometime when he was an adult and the reason he did so is that he knew as a child he was with Michael when he went ring shopping so it would corroborate what he was saying. Not saying it's likely at all just it's those doubts that make me struggle to believe it as 100% fact. Unless you're going on about something else?
LOL, alright man.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yes, maybe I phrased it incorrectly. I meant it was possible Safechuck bought the rings he showed off in the documentary sometime when he was an adult and the reason he did so is that he knew as a child he was with Michael when he went ring shopping so it would corroborate what he was saying. Not saying it's likely at all just it's those doubts that make me struggle to believe it as 100% fact. Unless you're going on about something else?
Jesus Christ.
 
Nov 1, 2017
3,256
Boise
Since the Holocaust came to light after Hitler died, I feel it to be unfair to pin it on a dead man who can’t defend himself. So I’ll keep wearing my replica SS Uniform thank you very much.

Yes, I just Godwin’d MJ.
 
Obviously not, but when you know 100% fact that this ONE person is behind awful acts, you mean to tell me you can't turn it down? Comparing food and transportation to music as well. Good lord.
I get it, it is nuts. But when you spent the early part of your life hearing about how great this dude was and listening to nothing but his albums and viewing people literally passing out at his concerts, it's hard to just turn it down. I'm not saying I'm in the right either, obviously, it's tone deaf to still enjoy his music but I won't lie to myself and say that I'm going to abandon MJ's music bc I know it's untrue. Dude was like a hero to me and it's hard for me to accept the fact that Wacko Jacko was indeed a fucking disgusting wacko.