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FootyEra 18/19 Season |OT 3| VAR VAR Oblak keep, have you any pens?
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What's the opinion of Portuguese Era on who is the greatest Portuguese footballer of all time? Eusébio or Cristiano?
Younger people say it's Cristiano, older people say Eusébio. All the awards and records seem to boost Ronaldo though and honestly he deserves it, he is an elite athlete. Regardless, Ronaldo will never achieve the importance of Eusébio to our country, he was the only light during really dark times(dictatorship). There's a reason why he's buried in Pantheon amongst the greatest of our history.
It's baffling really, any good coach needs good players to win, of course Guardiola would not be as successful as he is if he didn't coach clubs with a great wealth, that doesn't change the fact that the tactics shown by his players in every team he's been have been impressive regardless of the money the club has spent.
So I assume you like how Arsenal plays? Because we definitely played like this even before Barca
Weird. My friend's uncle has always told me it was The Panthers. Maybe the younger Gabonese generation calls it Black Panthers.
It's easy to play a high energy, technical game when your squad is the most expensive in the world though. Guardiola gets my respect when he builds a team up from nothing.
So according to your reasoning you don't respect any manager of the top european clubs, gothca.
And that's what I'm waiting for actually but we both know it won't happen
I don't have many opportunities to watch Arsenal because I don't have access to Premier League matches so my impressions come only from European competitions.
I think Arsenal played an attractive football during the Wenger years but Wenger himself seemed prone to bottling his opportunities there.
The team seemed to be eternally too full of young promising players who were often poached by wealthier clubs without the consolidation you need to finally win something like the Champions League.
The last few years of Wengers reign we didn't even play beautiful football. Was extremely depressing.
The first 8 years of Wenger's reign though we were fucking phenomenal.
Then we had sort of another 8 year period of playing really nice football but not winning anything.
Then dark years of winning nothing and playing shit football.
Almost every other top manager had to either start from the bottom or with less resources. Guardiola went from Barcelona to Bayern to Manchester City. That Barca side was incredible but let's not pretend that he's had to compromise to build a squad or impose his tactics. It's the same with Mourinho, except he actually had an incredible achievement with Porto early on in his career. Going from massive club to massive club and spending shitloads of money isn't the stuff of legends.
That's why I think that if Liverpool win a trophy this year, winning the title would be a greater achievement than winning the CL this season.
I'd massively respect Guardiola if he just fucked it all off and went to coach a lower league side up to the top. As it is, I just see him as someone who doped as a player and as a manager.
Spot on mate. That's exactly what happened unfortunately and Wenger was very stubborn
The unfortunate reality of current football is that wealthier clubs will always be at an enormous advantage.
Imagine if Barça didn't have the means to pay Messi obscene amounts of money. Another club would have signed him years ago and our results in the last decade would be practically inexistent.
Imagine if Barça didn't have the means to pay Messi obscene amounts of money. Another club would have signed him years ago and our results in the last decade would be practically inexistent.
Yeah, that was the time I adored Arsenal and followed a lot of the matches!
Arshavin - Van Persie - Walcott
Fabregas
Were great to watch at times. Throw in late Henry, some Nasri, Wilshere and Ramsey when he was healthy. A shame they weren't consistently good though. But following Arsenal over the years was heartbreaking. Seeing Henry, RVP, Fabregas going... once they put money on the table Wenger was in delirium and coudn't keep up with modern tactics. Arsenal had only one chance at the title in the last 10 years, the year Leicester took it. Gunners were up there, but choked :(
Guardiola started with a Barca side that seemed at the end of a cycle and he had the balls to kick out some players who were clearly at the end of their run like Ronaldinho, downplaying his work there just as him being lucky that he found a team with all that talent is odd to say the least, and trying to take Liverpool as an example of virtuosity when this summer they spent 70 million on a goalkeeper and much more on other players is disingenuous, if they'll win a trophy it wiil be 'cause like any other top club in Europe they spent lots of money on good players (not trying to discredit Klopp's work btw).
The "he should go in a smaller club with a smaller salary" talk is also nonsense, coaches are professional, asking them to renounce to money and better means at their disposal just to prove some point to god knows who is fantasy talk.
We can beat Barca. Let's roll. Just need United to let me actually get through the ballot (RIP).
But you didn't print a lousy sheet of paper with a UCL logo and post it on Twitter.
Nah this Juve team will beat Barca and I want to see Messi cry again
I would fancy City to beat either of those honestly at the moment
Now I've said that they'll go and lose to the spuds
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