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MrS

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Wonder when Liverpool will throw their hat in to the ring for Sanchez...
 

edo_kid

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Sanchez is a mercenary, but I can't act mad if he ends up in a United shirt. This club might as well go YOLO with mercenaries with Mourinho at the helm.

Who in the world of football it's not a mercenary? The time that players played for love of the club and stay for years and years is gone. Nowadays is it's all about money.

Even Messi look how much money they had to give him.
 

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Who in the world of football it's not a mercenary? The time that players played for love of the club and stay for years and years is gone. Nowadays is It's all about money.

I said in the real football topic, Jesse Lingard is a club love player. Only 100k a week and happy to sit on the bench.
 

Dragoon

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I mean, come on!
Bayern is on an unprecedented run right now, even by their standards. At the moment, yeah UCL might really be the bigger goal, as far as players and fans are concerned.
But Bayern's main focus is still the German crown, that's their bread and butter. Winning UCL or not will not get a coach fired, but when the Meisterschaft is in danger you are gone (ask Ancelotti).
That's not why Ancelotti was fired... Hell it took the humiliating 3-0 European loss to make it happen, he was still in the title race even after the two draws inbetween the PSG series. Carlo completely lost the team to the point that major 5 players basically said they were thinking of leaving. Some people even speculate that Lahm and Alonso retired a year early due to Fraudcelotti. The German crown is the main focus because it's the easiest to win, as to take away pressure from them. No one sane is going to say the thing you've won 4, 5, 6 times in a row is more important than.. you know, the most important trophy in club football.

That said, Kalle and Uli aren't politicians and don't have any reason to sugarcoat stuff. They are both club legends who don't have to fear for their jobs at all.
Hoeness even went to jail and got his job back, what makes you think that he has to lower expectations?
Sorry, but calling them incompetent is really hyperbolic. Bayern is probably the best run club in world football, considering the "bang for the buck" they are getting, the infrastructure and the financial stability. Most of this was done by Uli Hoeness, tho. Kalle joined him later. They also have some of the smartest business people in Germany on their board (Allianz, Adidas).
They're incompetent in certain aspects, don't think of the term so generally. Uli went to jail, and the club went along fine in most aspects for example. I don't want either of them fired even if they keep fucking up, the devil you know in this case is better. However not blowing their wallet only on catastrophic events is obnoxious and incompetent. I'm also 91% sure Sammer was "let go" because he's not a yes man, he always had his own ideas and spoke up about it. They're looking for yes man, as his replacement is.
Teams they need to beat in Europe? Well, I give you that. Bayern is in a frustrating place right now. Too good for Arsenal and Porto, not good enough for Barca & Real.
I don't really get what you mean with "going after world class players". Bayern has a ton of them on their current squad and they are about to add Goretzka, who has all the tools to get there. But again, Bayern has never and will never be in the market for the Dybalas and Griezmanns of this world. Others are willing to pay more.
Just like they weren't able to buy Cruyff, Maradona, Romario, Zidane or C.Ronaldo in the past. Those guys don't go to Germany, even if the money is right.
If Bayern wants to get a world class player, they need to develop (Lahm, Müller) or get him from within the Bundesliga (Lewandowski, Neuer).
I don't fear any team in Europe, nor do I think Bayern needs to at all. Hell Bayern would have beaten Madrid if it wasn't for refs, which to you they're clearly below. However for things like that to happen, you can't start cancer like Ribery whose starting tonight when he's been garbage in the CL since the treble year. So if Jupp can start players that have actual ability, Bayern has a chance. I've already discussed this topic. Catch' them all Pokemon strategy of going after Germans and top tier Bundesliga talent is a great idea. So is relying on your youth, when you have a players Wintzheimer, Mai, and Meier, the former which is killing it during the youth system yet they waste more money on Wagner :\ Robben was that player, Ribery was also sought after at the time and they blew their transfer budget to make it happen. So your statement is incorrect, only that it happened during dire needs. The point is to go after players that you need. As for Dybala, I don't think he is what we need. Griezmann might join due to the French connection. I also didn't say it would happen, but at least give it a try. I also never said anything about Bayern not having world class talent. :\

The only thing I agree with you on, is that Bayern had some fuck ups while Uli was in jail. Kalle's dream of making Bayern a global superpower has cost them. They brought in too many Spanish speaking players and became too international.
Meanwhile, studs like Werner, Leroy Sane or Goretzka flew under their radar.
Goretzka didn't fly under the radar, Gerland sugested they go after him even then. I'm pretty sure he wanted to stay at a smaller club at the time, and nothing materialized too much. Sane was a gamble of waiting out the Robbery fossils, which ended up costing them. Massively. Werner I'm with you on.
All the Bayern fans are fake fans

Where were you during the winter break? Because you weren't shitposting with us

I won't forget
Don't make me bully you worse than Bayern in a round of 16 tie vs Arsenal.
 

Grandia

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394 posts i did? lol, no way.

Glad i moved from the gaf board though, the football section is dead there lol
 

edo_kid

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I said in the real football topic, Jesse Lingard is a club love player. Only 100k a week and happy to sit on the bench.

An average player like Lingard earning that much is kinda shocking, a lot of players would sit happily in the bench all day if they could earn that.
But to be fair his last games were good, let's see if he can keep the momentum for the rest of the year.
 
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Syder

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Weird, I was told we have no need to make one by a admin
Yeah, I asked a mod if there was a post limit before the thread hit 400 pages and they said no but I got a message from an admin last night requesting I make a new thread so...

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jarnet87

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Will Sanchez match the heights of former great #7's like Owen, Depay, Valencia and Di Maria?
 

jarnet87

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We need an emergency Arsenal Fan TV special when they lose Ozil and Sanchez this window
 
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