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For people who want to boycott THQNordic and Deep Silver, here are the list of games they are publishing
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Okay, what are you going to do if they don't do any of those things?
Those of you that would like to buy Shenmue 3 without sending Deep Silver any money might consider importing from China or Japan, as those versions of the game will not be published by them. In China, Oasis Games is the publisher for the PS4 version and WeGame is publishing for PC. Shenmue 3 doesn't have a Japanese publisher yet, but when they sign one that would be another potential outlet.
Compared to giving money to people who condone child porn because you don't want to "hurt the developers" 🤷♀️
that is what i would assume but wanted to be sure.
so you are saying option 2,they got their money when i added it to my library ?
Thank you for your post! A lot of relevant info there.
Oof, I just took a look at the physical disc copies I had lying around and ALL of the 2wenty-7even EU-versions of PS2 and PS4 games I checked say "Made in Austria". Since Koch Media is from Austria and has been distributing video games since 1996 I think there's a good chance that they were all distributed by KM (oldest checked was Shadow of Memories for PS2 - from 2001).
Of course THQ Nordic AB only acquired Koch Media in February 2018 and only publicly showed their character three weeks ago but I really don't feel comfortable giving them any kind of money any more even if only "peanuts" for distribution, at least until they have shown an appropriate reaction, as I mentioned before.
Buying digital is not really an alternative for me so I might order from the US or Asia from now on. Even buying used feels wrong tbh even though it really should feel ok at least.
There's plenty of reasons to stop using Facebook though (do it people!), those reasons are directly because of Facebook too and not just by association.
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Not enough, nothing substantial has happened.
No.
My thoughts exactly, as much as I hate the action they did, there's nothing you can really do about it except fighting for it. Honestly, i don't think not buying their game will really affect them, it need something bigger to trigger something, it's like saying don't eat meat for the environnement, but that wont change anything in my opinion.
If I really want Shenmue 3 I'll buy it used.
Fuck this company. Not giving them a dime going forward.
Fuck this company. Not giving them a dime going forward.
Folks, money talks. If you want companies to do better, if you want accountability for shit like this, if you want them to behave a certain way, then you stop giving them money.
If the marketing department at my company did something really fucking stupid, like an AMA on 8chan, and our numbers were hurt because of it, I'd be really pissed at marketing, not the people who saw it and noped the fuck out.
If the marketing department at my company did something really fucking stupid, like an AMA on 8chan, and our numbers were hurt because of it, I'd be really pissed at marketing, not the people who saw it and noped the fuck out.
How would someone that had no interest in buying something anyway have an impact? I think the purpose of a boycott is to abstain in buying something you would have otherwise purchased.
karl_marx_laser_eyes.png but, like, even Google has at least taken a bare minimum step against the site by delisting it from their web searches.
37, but I'll bite anyway. If I believed you were arguing in good faith, I'd say this is an odd opinion partly because 8chan was actually serving as an ideological incubator for the man who engaged in this activity. While Facebook itself may not be so directly involved in the circumstances surrounding the horrendous act, we still can't separate this from the way in which Facebook spreads conspiracy theories that feed into these white supremacist attitudes. They are absolutely, without question, complicit in this normalizing of abhorrent attitudes and behavior and should be treated with the utmost suspicion.
This shit is dreadfully tired.
You lames will lambast developers and proudly scream about not buying a game over microtransactions...... Over Epic Store exclusivity.... Over DLC options.... Over fucking framerate..... Over censoring fucking anime titties and outfits and shit
Not even once you mention those "developers" you love so much. Not once do you give a damn unless they can be used as your little chip.
A few people decide to boycott a publisher over condoning a shit website and userbase and you all come shitting up the thread with your baby bullshit.
Give it a fucking break, piss out the damn thread. Transparent as fuck. Fucking corny ass gamers
You lames will lambast developers and proudly scream about not buying a game over microtransactions...... Over Epic Store exclusivity.... Over DLC options.... Over fucking framerate..... Over censoring fucking anime titties and outfits and shit
Not even once you mention those "developers" you love so much. Not once do you give a damn unless they can be used as your little chip.
A few people decide to boycott a publisher over condoning a shit website and userbase and you all come shitting up the thread with your baby bullshit.
Give it a fucking break, piss out the damn thread. Transparent as fuck. Fucking corny ass gamers
Just not in the mood for it.
A 8chan dipshit just murdered 50+ people.... Retroactively highlighting the type of users that THQ wanted to play around with.
Like these idiots don't have shit else to stand on, so they just waste posts complaining that people actually dare to give a damn.
Seriously. Gamers throw a fit when a developer make a deal to ensure they can continue paying their employees, but ask them to not support a company that endorsed white nationalists, pedophiles, and right wing extremists, it's all "think of the developers!"
We can and should do both. There is no point in not buying their games if we don't keep talking about the issue, as much as some people would rather we stop because "politics". We also can't expect the company to change if we keep giving them money, no matter how much we shit talk them.
But the gaming community might just be beyond saving, honestly.
Time and time again, this very community has turned its back at every opportunity it had to ask for change. There is always an excuse: the IP can't exist without that person, so might as well keep giving them money; the developers would be sad if we didn't play the game that brought them mental and health issues; I'm just one person, I won't make a difference.
Content creators refuse to take a stand, because they are either too afraid of losing viewers or just don't care enough. None of the big ones, who will create 20 minute long videos based on a single tweet, have made a video on THQ's AMA, yet we have our good friend YongYea with at least 5 new videos about Anthem alone.
Amen.
Was writing something along these lines, but you've said it already.
I backed Shenmue III via Kickstarter, so my money was used long before Deep Silver was involved and purchased by THQ Nordic. That makes it okay for me to use the code whenever it's done. That's it for anything related to THQ Nordic until the heads roll.
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I'm buying some of those games :)
shoot! I haven't bought a game last month.
Kidding aside. Everyone is free to decide if they want to support the developer/publisher or not. We do have our own justification to support them. Here are just a few reasons why I'll boycott THQN:
- games are luxury
- it's not the consumer's responsibility to take care of the developer's welfare, it's their management's job to do so
- even good performing products are not safe from layoffs
- hate coming from alt-right is just too much and platforms like 8chan support this. by doing AMA, they are validating whatever that platform is representing
- I rather show my support to the victims by boycott and spreading information
that said I have to let go of Biomutant.
I feel that Shenmue's studio is just unfortunate in this case. That said they really should have out out a statement of some kind.
They're the same as the people that try to shout down those protesting for things to get better because they're not being "civil" or "polite" or "doing things the right way" when what they're really saying is that they should be speaking out at all.
It is very sad. I was REALLY looking forward to Shenmue 3 and the game looks great. But it just feels wrong now to keep supporting and hyping the game :(
Yep.
Especially exasperating when the same people then argue with the actual developers who've come in here supporting a boycott or other measures, because they wouldn't want themselves or their work used as a hostage to shield a problematic publisher.
THQ Nordic's actions are what hurt developers — what hurt everyone within their umbrella. I'm quite sure that all the LGBT employees there, all the Jewish employees, all the PoC employees, all the employees who've endured abuse or harassment, all the decent employees want the people responsible for the AMA to be punished. Because their jobs and working conditions will be improved if those toxic elements are removed.
This is really quite, uh, interesting to contrast with the No Man's Sky thread I tell y'all what
Why does he need to go? Why can't we help educate him instead of washing our hands with him? Is he himself a Pedo, Murderer or Nazi? If he is then fuck him, but if he's not then why can't we be better people, help fix the problem and not punish thousands of hard working developers in the process. Does this man have a family? Do we need to punish his family through getting him fired? Does he have people counting on him? Are we so perfect we can't forgive? Are we so flawless we can't help?
Apologies can never not feel hollow written over the internet even if they do have the best of intentions. They apologized. Should we simply push forgiveness to the side and instead pull the lever and hope he hangs?
I don't want to fight one injustice with another one. Especially when we can be better than that.
Actually the thread about Phoenix Point had plenty of concern for how this was affecting Julian Gallop. Just blindly saying since there were people that were mad about both doesn't mean they are the same people. Claiming that it didn't happen "not even once" is just not being truthful.
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Will you boycott Google because they allow Pewdiepie on their platform?
With due respect, the title thread explicitly negates any notion of this being a blanket requirement for every member of the forum. You do you. Coming in here to justifying the opposing action that incurs no penalty is frankly off putting.
It was a bullshit apology. The guys involved in the AMA knew exactly what they were doing and exactly the sort of people they were catering to with that move. It was a disgusting, abhorrent move, and it was calculated. They can fuck right off.
It's an injustice for two people to receive consequences for their actions? Fuck outta here with this bullshit.
If they didn't want they didn't want to put their jobs at risk then maybe they shouldn't have endorsed 8Chan. Issuing a weak ass apology that is totally contradicted by the actual events that happened shouldn't let them off the hook.
Some will. And if they feel that way good on 'em. Youve got to take a stand on some things in life dude. If these guys want to hit dumbass publishers in the wallet because it has a chance of correcting their employees stupid behaviour then it's all good. Some people act like protest is dead, it sad.
I keep reading it's a bullshit apology, but no one can tell me how they know it's a bullshit apology. It's always about how people are interpreting the apology but nobody can tell me how they KNOW it's bullshit. They didn't even have to comment on it, let alone the multiple times they have.
We have to be better than the sum of the problem.
I didn't say there doesn't have to be consequences. There's many other ways to go about this opposed to going in straight for the kill.
