Some will. It's their choice to stand up for something they believe in. No ones forcing you to do it.Will you boycott Google because they allow Pewdiepie on their platform?
Some will. It's their choice to stand up for something they believe in. No ones forcing you to do it.Will you boycott Google because they allow Pewdiepie on their platform?
This shit is dreadfully tired.
You lames will lambast developers and proudly scream about not buying a game over microtransactions...... Over Epic Store exclusivity.... Over DLC options.... Over fucking framerate..... Over censoring fucking anime titties and outfits and shit
Not even once you mention those "developers" you love so much. Not once do you give a damn unless they can be used as your little chip.
A few people decide to boycott a publisher over condoning a shit website and userbase and you all come shitting up the thread with your baby bullshit.
Give it a fucking break, piss out the damn thread. Transparent as fuck. Fucking corny ass gamers
This shit is dreadfully tired.
You lames will lambast developers and proudly scream about not buying a game over microtransactions...... Over Epic Store exclusivity.... Over DLC options.... Over fucking framerate..... Over censoring fucking anime titties and outfits and shit
Not even once you mention those "developers" you love so much. Not once do you give a damn unless they can be used as your little chip.
A few people decide to boycott a publisher over condoning a shit website and userbase and you all come shitting up the thread with your baby bullshit.
Give it a fucking break, piss out the damn thread. Transparent as fuck. Fucking corny ass gamers
I keep reading it's a bullshit apology, but no one can tell me how they know it's a bullshit apology. It's always about how people are interpreting the apology but nobody can tell me how they KNOW it's bullshit. They didn't even have to comment on it, let alone the multiple times they have.
We have to be better than the sum of the problem.
I keep reading it's a bullshit apology, but no one can tell me how they know it's a bullshit apology. It's always about how people are interpreting the apology but nobody can tell me how they KNOW it's bullshit. They didn't even have to comment on it, let alone the multiple times they have.
We have to be better than the sum of the problem.
karl_marx_laser_eyes.png but, like, even Google has at least taken a bare minimum step against the site by delisting it from their web searches.
37, but I'll bite anyway. If I believed you were arguing in good faith, I'd say this is an odd opinion partly because 8chan was actually serving as an ideological incubator for the man who engaged in this activity. While Facebook itself may not be so directly involved in the circumstances surrounding the horrendous act, we still can't separate this from the way in which Facebook spreads conspiracy theories that feed into these white supremacist attitudes. They are absolutely, without question, complicit in this normalizing of abhorrent attitudes and behavior and should be treated with the utmost suspicion.
There's plenty of reasons to stop using Facebook though (do it people!), those reasons are directly because of Facebook too and not just by association.
Well, the game was Kickstarted. Team is independent and latest updates look great. THQ didn't finance the whole development as such so it's a different case I feel from THQ owned studios.It is very sad. I was REALLY looking forward to Shenmue 3 and the game looks great. But it just feels wrong now to keep supporting and hyping the game :(
They posted this tweet half an hour after the AMA was announced. So they knew the reputation of the site before they did it.
I'm not gonna link directly to screencaps of them blatantly pandering to pedophiles and other lowlifes, but here's a nice summary, albeit with some broken images.
You're just throwing pitchforks around, there are hundreds of people employed by the studio, why should they pay for the mistake of one?
Basically how I'm seeing it. I directly gave my money to Ys Net by backing the Kickstarter, so THQ Nordic will have seen none of that.I backed Shenmue III via Kickstarter, so my money was used long before Deep Silver was involved and purchased by THQ Nordic. That makes it okay for me to use the code whenever it's done. That's it for anything related to THQ Nordic until the heads roll.
So buy them used.
I saw the whole thing when it happened. Thanks for the recap though. They've also had 3 different apologies by this point. (Maybe 2) and even if you don't like what was said or how it feels to you they still did more than they could have FOR NOW and we don't know what is going on outside of our eyes and it's not really our business on how the people involved may have been reprimanded or educated.
My simple take to this is that firing seems a bit Disney like, and even Disney just rehired James Gunn. If Disney can learn forgiveness, then maybe we can too.
Why should people who happily endorsed a site that was delisted for ties to child porn be given a second chance. Give somebody else who isn't a shitbag that role rather that giving shitty people numerous chances.I keep reading it's a bullshit apology, but no one can tell me how they know it's a bullshit apology. It's always about how people are interpreting the apology but nobody can tell me how they KNOW it's bullshit. They didn't even have to comment on it, let alone the multiple times they have.
We have to be better than the sum of the problem.
I didn't say there doesn't have to be consequences. There's many other ways to go about this opposed to going in straight for the kill.
Nothing stopping Yu Suzuki or any of the developers to come out and condemn 8chan or Nordics actions. So far it's just crickets.Yeah I'm not going to punish Yu Suzuki over something he had nothing to do with. He deserves his game to be a success.
He doesn't care about their publishers signal boosting a terrorist site which ended up cheering the mosque attack with 49 death toll, why should we care about him?Yeah I'm not going to punish Yu Suzuki over something he had nothing to do with. He deserves his game to be a success.
Holy shit that list of games. I ,as a consumer, want to boycott them but they are getting way too big to even keep up with what they are publishing.
I saw the whole thing when it happened. Thanks for the recap though. They've also had 3 different apologies by this point. (Maybe 2) and even if you don't like what was said or how it feels to you they still did more than they could have FOR NOW and we don't know what is going on outside of our eyes and it's not really our business on how the people involved may have been reprimanded or educated.
My simple take to this is that firing seems a bit Disney like, and even Disney just rehired James Gunn. If Disney can learn forgiveness, then maybe we can too.
I agree. However, the admins already agreed to keep discussion of their games. Which I believeA good way to ensure that this is not forgotten is to sticky it and then let OP update it periodically.
I keep seeing the perception in this thread that people are telling those that are choosing to boycott that they are wrong or are ridiculing them but couldn't find an example of this, only the opposite. There must be that opinion in the thread somewhere but the people being ridiculed for not boycotting seems much more prevalent.Last thing - I often see a sort of sneering attitude on this forum towards people who are choosing to boycott products.
Koch Media only handles the physical distribution of Yakuza (and Sega games in general) in Europe. If you are in Europe, get the digital version.
I agree. However, the admins already agreed to keep discussion of their games. Which I believe
we kinda need since some of those publishing contacts were made way before THQNordic went full stupid.
Do we know if any outlets are pressing THQ on their stance since this incident?
Why is there so much benefit of the doubt given to people who wanted to chat it up with white nationalist? The same site the terrorist was plotting the tragedy.
If you fire the dudes responsible I can see that you're actively taking steps to remove those people from your work culture.
But I'm just supposed to assume they got enlightened and educated "behind the scenes". Just hope that they now see the error of the ways?? (Even though they haven't done shit)
How is that not foolish/idiotic?
I'm supposed to have forgiveness for normalizing behavior/attitudes that actively puts others in danger/fear of their lives? Why should I do that?
This shit is dreadfully tired.
You lames will lambast developers and proudly scream about not buying a game over microtransactions...... Over Epic Store exclusivity.... Over DLC options.... Over fucking framerate..... Over censoring fucking anime titties and outfits and shit
Not even once you mention those "developers" you love so much. Not once do you give a damn unless they can be used as your little chip.
A few people decide to boycott a publisher over condoning a shit website and userbase and you all come shitting up the thread with your baby bullshit.
Give it a fucking break, piss out the damn thread. Transparent as fuck. Fucking corny ass gamers
There's other steps we can take as a gaming community before going straight to the knife and cutting the people. Lets say the dude is somehow a bigot ect. What lesson did you teach him by getting him fired? Just because he's out of sight out of mind doesn't stop the issue. He's still a bigot ect outside of the company.
So what then? You got piece of mind enough to buy the games you wanted to buy? Ok but he's still out there. That's my issue. You solved nothing by getting him fired outside of your own personal interests.
I personally accepted the apology and will buy some of the games I like. Am I perfect? No. I also don't believe in the death penalty. I want people to learn how to be better, and if they can't learn on their own then we have to step up and help them if we take issue.
just get it when this is all over. the longer they sit on their hands the easier it gets to not support a pro-nazi, pro-pedo company.Already paid for Shenmue 3 but that'll be it. I was looking forward to the physical version of Wasteland 2 on switch (I backed the original on Kickstarter) but I'll just skip it and stick with the PC version I have.
I want to make a minor correction, and also back up your point.One of the "he's" in this situation sits on the holding company's board of directors. So if he doesn't get the boot, he gets to be involved in making decisions that affect everyone else in the company. I repeat: the guy who approved an AMA on a child porn site gets to decide which games get made. That in and of itself seems like punishing the devs to me.
Also, quit it with the death penalty comparisons, it makes you look like you're arguing in bad faith.
are you being serious with this?There's other steps we can take as a gaming community before going straight to the knife and cutting the people. Lets say the dude is somehow a bigot ect. What lesson did you teach him by getting him fired? Just because he's out of sight out of mind doesn't stop the issue. He's still a bigot ect outside of the company.
Yup. It can't be said enough.This shit is dreadfully tired.
You lames will lambast developers and proudly scream about not buying a game over microtransactions...... Over Epic Store exclusivity.... Over DLC options.... Over fucking framerate..... Over censoring fucking anime titties and outfits and shit
Not even once you mention those "developers" you love so much. Not once do you give a damn unless they can be used as your little chip.
A few people decide to boycott a publisher over condoning a shit website and userbase and you all come shitting up the thread with your baby bullshit.
Give it a fucking break, piss out the damn thread. Transparent as fuck. Fucking corny ass gamers
This shit is dreadfully tired.
You lames will lambast developers and proudly scream about not buying a game over microtransactions...... Over Epic Store exclusivity.... Over DLC options.... Over fucking framerate..... Over censoring fucking anime titties and outfits and shit
Not even once you mention those "developers" you love so much. Not once do you give a damn unless they can be used as your little chip.
A few people decide to boycott a publisher over condoning a shit website and userbase and you all come shitting up the thread with your baby bullshit.
Give it a fucking break, piss out the damn thread. Transparent as fuck. Fucking corny ass gamers
Im out of the loop here ,but I thought they already apologized here ?https://www.polygon.com/2019/3/4/18249988/thq-nordic-8chan-ama-apology
What I'm I missing ?
Why do people STILL think it's only one PR guy involved?The same people in here lamenting over the loss of hundreds of developers losing their jobs are the same people here completely opposing the purchasing of games from developers who had literally absolutely nothing to do with the tragic circumstances that surrounded the publisher.
You think the folks in Japan who are developing Shenmue 3 have any relation in the slightest to the single marketing guy at THQ? And now these hardworking devs are to be punished and put their livelihood at jeopardy?
You don't actually give a shit about developers, you never did. Find a better way to voice your displeasure.
Playing and enjoying Shenmue 3 does not mean you a right wing terrorist supporter, give me a fucking break.
Shenmue's revival is one of the most underdog stories in gaming and bucks big publisher trends and Yu Suzuki is an extremely humbled individual who just wants to get back to making games again. Of all forums I see Shenmue's name on the list and this shit absolutely disgusts me. These guys have nothing to do with this shit.The same people in here lamenting over the loss of hundreds of developers losing their jobs are the same people here completely opposing the purchasing of games from developers who had literally absolutely nothing to do with the tragic circumstances that surrounded the publisher.
You think the folks in Japan who are developing Shenmue 3 have any relation in the slightest to the single marketing guy at THQ? And now these hardworking devs are to be punished and put their livelihood at jeopardy?
You don't actually give a shit about developers, you never did. Find a better way to voice your displeasure.
My simple take to this is that firing seems a bit Disney like, and even Disney just rehired James Gunn. If Disney can learn forgiveness, then maybe we can too.
Ok I see I thought the problem was only using the web didn't know it goes deeper than that.<3. Nothing more to be said.
You can Google and read what they said on 8chan themselves. It completely contradicts their 'apology'. They're hate-filled racist homophobic assholes. A hollow apology checks boxes but does nothing to stop this type of shit. Enabling and normalizing this type of hate is not acceptable. Fuck them into the sun.