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Feb 13, 2018
3,844
Japan
It is true that without 8chan people just make a 9chan or something to replace it. But I think that's no excuse not to do what they can. If there's a cockroach in your room, stepping on it won't get rid of any others in hiding, so you just have to stomp em as they rear their ugly heads.
 

Dr. Caroll

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,111
The premise of this article has some serious flaws. We know who hosts 8chan. It's not some great mystery that Cloudflare are hiding. 8chan is owned and hosted by NT Technology/Jim Watkins. NT Technology also hosts 2channel, the extremely popular Japanese textboard. Teeeeeeechnically, Watkins stole 2channel from its original owners. But that's all in the past now.

Cloudflare exists to protect sites from denial of service attacks. Also to provide HTTPS certification and the like. Cloudflare is basically a proxying service. Whenever a website comes under attack, companies like Cloudflare are there to protect them. ResetERA is protected by Cloudflare. There are people who would want to take down ResetERA. Who would be interested in knowing exactly where the site is hosted for malicious purposes.
 

Spenny

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,544
San Diego-ish
This is one of the stupidest responses I've seen in my life. Taking away electricity and groceries wouldn't affect terrorists? Yes it fucking would. FedEx doesn't check packages? Yes they fucking do. Fuck libertarians.
 

element252

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
719
Shutting this site could backfire and they may find another way to congregate where they cannot be caught. Perhaps keep tabs of extremists on sites such as this. Obviously White Supremacists groups are just as big of a threat as ISIS.
 

Acorn

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,972
Scotland
These libertarian idiots eventually realise that neutral doesn't exist when they get sufficient heat and hits their bottom line. Just like Reddit they will eventually fold.
 

Freestyler

Member
Oct 27, 2017
343
I'll be downgrading my paid Cloudflare accounts tomorrow (to the free tier) so I'm no longer supporting them financially. Unfortunately they're a necessary evil in my line of work.
 

Aztechnology

Community Resettler
Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
14,139
Yes but you see when you keep rooting them out, it makes it harder for them to congregate "Safely" and then people are less likely to be radicalized. So I strongly disagree.
 

Heromanz

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
20,202
What is the legal argument against the following claim:

Posters on 8chan's /pol/ are accessories before or after the fact to murder, or at the very least material witnesses to the case. Police in New Zealand have a legal right to demand identification and extradition of these posters. The servers themselves are evidence of the crime and ought be seized as part of the investigation.
What no man. That's not going to fly in most countries.
 

Error 52

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
2,032
What is the legal argument against the following claim:

Posters on 8chan's /pol/ are accessories before or after the fact to murder, or at the very least material witnesses to the case. Police in New Zealand have a legal right to demand identification and extradition of these posters. The servers themselves are evidence of the crime and ought be seized as part of the investigation.
As shitty as 8chan is...uh, no. Just, no.

There's been shooters that were at least partially influenced by Reddit, Twitter, or YouTube. 8chan isn't fundamentally different from that.
 

KDR_11k

Banned
Nov 10, 2017
5,235
Isn't there any legal liability involved for Cloudflare? Like could you use laws like the NetzDG to nuke their ability to do business in certain countries if they don't ditch places like 8chan?
 

thecouncil

Member
Oct 29, 2017
12,341
If there's a cockroach in your room, stepping on it won't get rid of any others in hiding, so you just have to stomp em as they rear their ugly heads.

Yeah, but if you started with all of them in a container and let them out, the fact that they scattered into the walls and vents doesn't mean they're gone.
 

Ausroachman

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,394
We just need to get something like #cloudfaresupportsnazis or #cloudfaresupportskiddieporn and see how long it takes to change there tune

Sadly it would probably have little effect as a 12chan or something similar would just appear