Wait, so the article wants to the people who didn't went to see Alita or Tomb Raider to feel bad? That people don't go to the theaters to see every single female-leading movie or somewhat? What? Like forcing people to go watch even mediocre or bad movies because if not, they need to feel ashamed if those movies bomb ?
I saw both WW and CM cause I wanted too. Both were good movies that had female leads of strong, capable women. I don't mean physically strong either. I mean women that have their own agency, like Ripely or Sarah Connor. Female action leads that have that quality are too few and far between.
Allita just came out at the wrong time- every weekend we wanted to see it, we were busy. It now out of most theaters around here or relegated to the small one. We'll either catch it streams or when one of our friends gets it. I have decent memories of liking the manga back in the day.
TR, I've never seen the movies. The tits and ass fan service of the first game have always stuck with me. She may be smart, but she was made for men's eyes- gameplay required she had a brain for puzzle solving. I don't hate Tomb Raider, I know I was never part of the intended audience.
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This article falls in line with something I was thinking about recently, as I've kept all of my movie ticket stubs going back over 20 years. As soon as I was old enough to drive I saw lots of movies in theaters throughout the 90s and early 00s, but these days when you look at my stubs you'll see franchise after franchise with the occasional outlier like Alita. I'm less likely to take a chance on a movie that's unfamiliar now, and the studios know it.
I didn't see Wonder Woman until it was out on Blu Ray and I'm planning on seeing Captain Marvel next week. I did see Happy Death Day 2U because I liked the first.
Comparing Alita and Tomb Raider to Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman seems weird. That's like saying "You saw Fast & Furious and Return of the King but you skipped out on It Follows and Need for Speed" (granted Alita is probably better than all of those)
What? No. The movie is still about her naively fawning over some total doofus when she's not striking "badass anime poses." Like the action and aesthetic are great, and the main actress does well with what she's got, but it's real fucking messily put together.
Yeah, I remember reading it after going on a Japanese horror binge once I read a bunch of Junji Ito stuff. Was looking for pretty much anything similar and that one was highly recommended. That was probably 6 or 7 years ago.
Alita was such a disappointment. I was hoping for them to go with a darker tone just like in the manga. The messaging of what it means to be a human in an machine is almost nowhere to be found and it's become another Mary Sue to greatness story line.
At least Captain Marvel is entertaining. One of the few cases where the trailer matches the end product.
I saw all of them. Wonder Woman was a great movie. Alita was a good movie, and captain marvel was a good movie. Tomb raider was fucking horrible.
And I hate to be that guy but going to the movies is expensive. Back when I was younger I only worried about paying for me. Now I have a family and I’m buying 3 tickets. It’s 40-50 bucks to go the movies now and I don’t have nearly as much time as I used to so I typically wait for most films on Blu-ray or streaming. I can redbox a Blu-ray for 2 bucks. It makes a difference. Because of pricing we typically only go to stuff like Star Wars, marvel stuff, etc. I’m not gonna blow 40-50 bucks on a movie that looks iffy.
The only thing I know about Alita is pieces of shit online seem to love it, and somehow have weaponized it against women's rights with Captain Marvel as their surrogate target. Those assholes are enough to keep me away.
Eh, I dunno. I'm not sure if the majority of women want to necessarily see a film solely because it has a female lead. I would assume the trailers would have played a big deal in their decision, as not everyone is willing to take a chance on a random film that has horrible trailer(i.e. Miss Bala and Tomb Raider trailers, which looked like trash). At the end of the day people are going to vote with their wallets and they are going to vote on films they feel are safe.
Side note: I realize I've seen 4 of the 5 movies mentioned.
This is the type of "feminism" only a white dude with no concept of what feminism is would write.
Feminist fight for representation in films isn't: everyone must see every female led film or you're not being feminist.
Feminist fight for representation is that we need more women in leads, and that they are allowed to succeed and fail as any one with a man lead would,. The real success isn't every woman lead film ever is a success and you aren't doing your part for the cause if you don;t see all of them. The success is in fact the opposite, the entire decoupling of success from the future existence of other movies with women leads. True success is when films with women leads are allowed to fail, and in some cases fail spectacularly without the future of women lead films being put at risk.
This article encourages the coupling to remain, outright reinforces it, fuck that.
This comment is ridiculous. How is it a dumb reason? If a visual aspect of a film is off putting, enough to make you not want to see it, that is a perfectly valid reason not to go watch.
I imagine, as highlighted enough already, it’s probably down to the former films having decent to good reviews, and the latter having average to poor reviews. I think it’s disingenuous to completely ignore that.
I might catch up Alita because I've read the manga and I'm morbidly interested. Ain't seen the rest.
Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman was shoved down my throat marketing-wise, the other two not really. Not really surprising that the first group of movies, which have gigantic machines to try to put audiences in seats, are more successful than the latter.
You're not really missing out. Alita was a bit more fun than I thought it was going to be, but more in the Venom sort of way, where I was having a good time while acknowledging that the movie was mostly bad.