Forever 21 got roasted for featuring a white model in a “Wakanda Forever” Black Panther sweater

Was Forever 21 wrong?

  • Absolutely

    Votes: 186 16.1%
  • I’m fine with it

    Votes: 967 83.9%

  • Total voters
    1,153

TCi

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
632
You know people have too much free time when you have outrage over this. Maybe spend your outrage on something that actually matters.
 

Bobo Dakes

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
25,141
God forbid me for liking Black Panther while white, this is pathetic.
Y'all are waaay too eager to act marginalized.


too many people are into being told that some other group is outraged so they can feel better about themselves, somehow

People in this thread are eating it up



See? a few tweets from random people is enough to rant about “outrage culture” and supposedly diminishes “real issues” complete with a “this is why the right is winning” big up

People really eat this shit up, man




Right? Thank you.
Summed up better than I could do it. Thank you.
 

dreams

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,546
Lmao this thread is peak resetera. There are more white people in here being outraged over outrage (of which there is none) than any actual outrage over this. The only issue with this is that companies already barely use black models in advertising. So why can't you use a black model to sell a shirt about a movie with a mainly black cast? Also, ffs being offended is different than being outraged. No one is OUTRAGED. The fact that people want so desperately to say PC GONE MAD!!!!!! at all times. Lmao yikes.
 

BlackJace

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
4,267
It gets an "Oh really" from me, but I'm not actually bothered by it. Forever 21 is weak anyway lol.
 

Rivenblade

Member
Nov 1, 2017
22,410
More important things to worry about than talking about Forever 21.

*checks out Forever 21 website*

Oh, hey, Christmas is coming...

FUCK.
 
Dec 22, 2017
4,761
Lmao this thread is peak resetera. There are more white people in here being outraged over outrage (of which there is none) than any actual outrage over this. The only issue with this is that companies already barely use black models in advertising. So why can't you use a black model to sell a shirt about a movie with a mainly black cast? Also, ffs being offended is different than being outraged. No one is OUTRAGED. The fact that people want so desperately to say PC GONE MAD!!!!!! at all times. Lmao yikes.
Thank you.

I saw it as “lol marketing person at forever 21 didn’t know what Wakanda is”. Whether it was intentional or not I find it funny, and we should be able to point stuff like this out without being accused of faux outrage.
 

Syntrophos

Member
Nov 25, 2018
177
No one actually cares and I think any articles you'd see are just people reaching to pump out a piece. It's like when youtube right wingers take a tweet with 2 likes and claim the left wants to castrate all men or whatever.
 

LosDaddie

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,622
Longwood, FL
F21 actually pulled the listing? 🤣

Was there some actual outrage/call for boycotts, or (like some instances in the past) just a few people on Twitter making some noise?

I can’t imagine how one goes through life if a white person wearing a BP sweater upsets them.
 

Lo-Volt

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,068
New Yawk City!
Ugh, it wasn’t such a good idea. The film might be part of a cinematic universe curated by white men, but the literal point of Black Panther was also about a sense of black social ownership. An underlying theme in the whole shebang is about how black people can best defend a distinct sense of culture and thinking in a brutal world driven by neo-colonialism, while interacting with the world out of necessity. Almost every other line in the film is about the balance between interaction and assimilation.

So yes, fellow white people, we can wear this ugly sweater. But folks have to be a little more mindful of falling into the dumb trope of “black people made this cool thing therefore let’s ignore the whole point and find an Aryan to wear it because racism is over”. UGH COME ON. Be smarter than that.

That’s the problem right there - “we therefore get to own it and ignore the whole point of this creation and therefore look stupid” happened with rap, blaxploitation and R&B, and it’s exhausting. Find the balance better. Let white people buy it but find a black person to model it and skip the entire fucking problem, saving everyone a headache.

But don’t buy this sweater. The Wu-Tang infringing T-shirt does a better job than this anyway, truly.
 
Apr 16, 2018
1,760
Wakanda’s not real ffs.

This would be like getting mad a black model is modeling a Superman sweater.

They’re not fuckin real, man.
 

NoName999

One Winged Slayer
Banned
Oct 29, 2017
5,906
Era: We would never act like those other gaming sites where they act outraged about nonexistent outrage

Era: *proceeds to act outrageous about nonexistent outrage*

As if the veil didn't need to be uncovered anymore. Era is truly no better than other gaming forums bitching about political correctness.
 

Infamous Hawk

Member
Oct 30, 2017
364
Wrong? Naw. Probably should have found a black model though. But nothing overtly wrong.

You know people have too much free time when you have outrage over this. Maybe spend your outrage on something that actually matters.
But seriously, have you not seen some of the threads on this forum? People literally asking if they should be outraged or not. They're not even mad. They're asking if they should be mad about something.
 

Messofanego

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,728
UK
too many people are into being told that some other group is outraged so they can feel better about themselves, somehow

People in this thread are eating it up



See? a few tweets from random people is enough to rant about “outrage culture” and supposedly diminishes “real issues” complete with a “this is why the right is winning” big up

People really eat this shit up, man




Right? Thank you.
Elegant summary of this thread :P
 
Oct 27, 2017
683
I dont buy that there was 'backlash' other than a handful of people upset on social media. This is likely just fake controversy to drum up sales on an item that wasn't even that popular to begin with. When I think of 'marvel merchandise' I dont think forever21 would even be an option for me to buy it.

These days 'outrage' and 'controversy' are useful marketing tools since information is spread so rapidly.
 

Hey Please

Avenger
Oct 31, 2017
21,962
Not America
At this rate someone might insinuate that anyone other than black folks wearing that sweater is tantamount to cultural appropriation to stir shit up. Honestly, I'm lost as to why there's an outrage over this other than the fact that white folks have traditionally outnumbered PoCs when it comes to representation in catalogue modelling, which is slowly changing.
 

BlackGoku03

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,971
Doesn't matter to me. Black panther and it's universe is owned by and created by white people regardless. The whole wakanda forever shit is also hella corny.
Me right there. Also relates to my core criticism of Black Panther in general. Marvel likes to place their heroes in real cities or countries... but Black Panther? Gotta make it Wakanda.

Stan Lee and Kirby had good intentions with wanting diversity in Marvel, but why not have a black author create some black heroes?

Movie was good though.
 

Benita

Banned
Aug 27, 2018
862
How is this story clickbait when the news articles are about how Forever 21 apologized and pulled the listing in response to the backslash? Like, that's just reporting the facts.
Yeah I really don't understand why some people are so desperate to "prove" that nobody actually cares about this when none of the articles I've read are beating it up to be anything more than it is.