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Sandstar

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Oct 28, 2017
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To me, if you're going to be a closeted anti LGBT activist, you should be outed. You deserve no special consideration if your actions hurt minority groups you're a part of.
 

HeySeuss

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't think most heterosexual people think that homophobia comes from mainly the closeted gay community, but that the more outspoken someone is the more likely it's a cover to deflect their true orientation. But I'm probably speaking from a position of privilege but it just seems to be a smokescreen and not that they are actually homophobic.
 

WarLox

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Oct 30, 2017
574
So, I guess outing someone is cool as long as you dont agree with their politics?

This thread is weird, and it would be much different if this was about someone everyone liked.
 

Dalek

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Oct 25, 2017
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Downton Abbey of all things. There's an entire plot about a closeted gay man being terrified of being outed.
 

HStallion

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Oct 25, 2017
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So, I guess outing someone is cool as long as you dont agree with their politics?

This thread is weird, and it would be much different if this was about someone everyone liked.

He's been out for a while now by my understanding. This is just shaming him for thinking he can just join the community he attacked so hard when he was a legislator.
 

metalslimer

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Oct 25, 2017
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So, I guess outing someone is cool as long as you dont agree with their politics?

This thread is weird, and it would be much different if this was about someone everyone liked.

Yes someone actively hurting their community while trying to be a part of it should be outed in my opinion.

Since he seemingly wants to make a comeback into politica people should know who they are voting for
 

Hours Left

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Oct 26, 2017
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So, I guess outing someone is cool as long as you dont agree with their politics?

This thread is weird, and it would be much different if this was about someone everyone liked.
He outed himself, numerous times, and actively worked to make the lives of other gay people miserable, and even put their lives in danger.

He has earned zero benefit of the doubt/sympathy. He hasn't even attempted to make up for his past actions.
 

thatother

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User Banned (3 Days): Perpetuating harmful stereotypes and antagonizing other members over a series of posts
The most rabid homophobes are often closeted. People who have their sexuality sorted out rarely have any reason to attack the sexuality of others.

Yep.

The reason some people are so rabid about preventing "impure" thoughts is because they have them and assume everybody does.

Completely not realizing that if you're not gay those kinds of things don't really pop into your head like that.
 

Deleted member 925

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So, I guess outing someone is cool as long as you dont agree with their politics?

This thread is weird, and it would be much different if this was about someone everyone liked.

When he was here in Illinois it was the worst kept secret. Dude was actively hurting our community and took money illegally to spend on his lavish lifestyle. I'm happy these articles have popped up and are shaming him for trying to get into the community to socialize, party and have sex with privileged white gays. We don't accept him. And shame on those guys for hanging out with him.
 

Hours Left

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Oct 26, 2017
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Yep.

The reason some people are so rabid about preventing "impure" thoughts is because they have them and assume everybody does.

Completely not realizing that if you're not gay those kinds of things don't really pop into your head like that.
Actually, not at all.

Think before you signal boost harmful stereotypes.
 

Sweeney Swift

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Oct 25, 2017
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The most rabid homophobes are often closeted. People who have their sexuality sorted out rarely have any reason to attack the sexuality of others.

Please explain how? I fail to see how it damages.

Some of yall think it's real cute to say these stereotypes (people who focus on oppressing us are internally-repressed members of our community) in ways you simply don't do nearly as often with others. And you wonder why we're starting to sound more aggravated, why we're starting to be less polite

Every time hateful legislation is pushed, it's gotta be from someone who's queer and suppressing it. Meanwhile another trans person gets murdered (at a historic annual rate that ever increases) and nobody says shit about how the hate is very much still present from very-straight people who very much don't like us
We marched on the streets together Jan 21 2017 to say we were sticking together and we weren't going away no matter who tried to silence or erase or separate us. The trans military ban took effect as of Friday, there hasn't been a thread visible about it on the first page for any hour past the first few hours of that day news agencies bothered to talk about it, and it sure as shit hasn't been trending worldwide on Twitter since then
Even as of last year 40% of Americans didn't approve of their kids marrying someone of the same sex. Yet a significant amount of people thought the Supreme Court (for now) allowing it meant it was off the table completely and everyone else would either accept it or move on
Here's a 560-post thread where a lot of posters defended Trump and Putin (two of the most homophobic leaders in world history, not just currently) being depicted as lovers in a nationally-published comic. Because even when it comes to allies talking about people they hate, we still end up the butt of the joke
 
Sep 14, 2018
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Ah straight people and their hot takes about things they have no idea about, you just know everything don't you?
 
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So, I guess outing someone is cool as long as you dont agree with their politics?

This thread is weird, and it would be much different if this was about someone everyone liked.

Why would anyone like somebody who used his power as a politician to oppress a group of people? And then try to be welcome by that same group once he gets run out of Congress for being a criminal? And not that it would matter to me but he expressed no regret for his actions.
 

WarLox

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
574
When he was here in Illinois it was the worst kept secret. Dude was actively hurting our community and took money illegally to spend on his lavish lifestyle. I'm happy these articles have popped up and are shaming him for trying to get into the community to socialize, party and have sex with privileged white gays. We don't accept him. And shame on those guys for hanging out with him.

I have no idea who this guy is, but I did a quick google search, and I can't find anything saying that he has publicly came out.

If you dont like a politician, then you vote them out, and put someone in their place who will serve the community.

Either outing someone is wrong or it isn't.
 

Deleted member 925

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I have no idea who this guy is, but I did a quick google search, and I can't find anything saying that he has publicly came out.

If you dont like a politician, then you vote them out, and put someone in their place who will serve the community.

Either outing someone is wrong or it isn't.

Nah I have no issue with outing him because he's a terrible person who was hurting the gay community.

Are you straight? White? Do you understand how it feels to have people working against you and your rights?
 

PrimeBeef

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Oct 27, 2017
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Some of yall think it's real cute to say these stereotypes (people who focus on oppressing us are internally-repressed members of our community) in ways you simply don't do nearly as often with others. And you wonder why we're starting to sound more aggravated, why we're starting to be less polite

Every time hateful legislation is pushed, it's gotta be from someone who's queer and suppressing it. Meanwhile another trans person gets murdered (at a historic annual rate that ever increases) and nobody says shit about how the hate is very much still present from very-straight people who very much don't like us
We marched on the streets together Jan 21 2017 to say we were sticking together and we weren't going away no matter who tried to silence or erase or separate us. The trans military ban took effect as of Friday, there hasn't been a thread visible about it on the first page for any hour past the first few hours of that day news agencies bothered to talk about it, and it sure as shit hasn't been trending worldwide on Twitter since then
Even as of last year 40% of Americans didn't approve of their kids marrying someone of the same sex. Yet a significant amount of people thought the Supreme Court (for now) allowing it meant it was off the table completely and everyone else would either accept it or move on
Here's a 560-post thread where a lot of posters defended Trump and Putin (two of the most homophobic leaders in world history, not just currently) being depicted as lovers in a nationally-published comic. Because even when it comes to allies talking about people they hate, we still end up the butt of the joke
Never said it was cute nor do I believe the comment you quoted above mine. I just never looked at it from that perspective.
 

metalslimer

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Oct 25, 2017
9,558
I have no idea who this guy is, but I did a quick google search, and I can't find anything saying that he has publicly came out.

If you dont like a politician, then you vote them out, and put someone in their place who will serve the community.

Either outing someone is wrong or it isn't.

This isnt true just because you say it is.
 

sugururu

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Apr 16, 2019
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a lot of anti gay politicians are just classic cases of projection of their own internalized homophobia and discomfort with their own sexuality, which is why it really doesn't surprise me when so many of the adamantly anti gay politicians end up not being straight, same goes for the anti sex/celibacy obessesed/relgious politicians, they are often the kinkiest and least "righteous" behind closed doors. these people often are what they claim to despise
 

Hours Left

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Oct 26, 2017
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a lot of anti gay politicians are just classic cases of projection of their own internalized homophobia and discomfort with their own sexuality, which is why it really doesn't surprise me when so many of the adamantly anti gay politicians end up not being straight, same goes for the anti sex/celibacy obessesed/relgious politicians, they are often the kinkiest and least "righteous" behind closed doors. these people often are what they claim to despise
And even more are just hateful straight people.
 

WarLox

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Oct 30, 2017
574
That much is clear.

Perhaps do a bit more research than a cursory google search before defending his honor.

This story was done with the intent of shaming him. Weaponizing someone's sexuality is not ok. If he's not out, then outing him is wrong, especially if its with the intent to publicly shame him.
 
Sep 14, 2018
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I have no idea who this guy is, but I did a quick google search, and I can't find anything saying that he has publicly came out.

If you dont like a politician, then you vote them out, and put someone in their place who will serve the community.

Either outing someone is wrong or it isn't.

If you weren't a clueless straight person you would know there's a special exception about outing when it's about an anti-gay politician who actively works/worked against other gay people, if you look up gay journalists, commentators, etc you can see their thoughts about the subject, but again it's a position that comes naturally to those of us who understand the subject (through gayness). But please come tell the gays all about outings and coming out, I'm sure you'll know more than us.

This story was done with the intent of shaming him.

Indeed his actions were shameful and he should be ashamed.

Weaponizing someone's sexuality is not ok.

It is in this case.

If he's not out, then outing him is wrong, especially if its with the intent to publicly shame him.

Wrong again, I assume you mean well but you don't know what you're talking about.
 

Ziltoidia 9

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Oct 25, 2017
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While I don't know everything on the topic, I think a lot of it stems from when we are younger and learn through social constructs that it is easy to target marginalized groups to gain social status over others. That continoues into adulthood and as a politicians he used it to score points with his voters.
 

Meicyn

Member
Oct 27, 2017
233
Florida
This story was done with the intent of shaming him. Weaponizing someone's sexuality is not ok. If he's not out, then outing him is wrong, especially if its with the intent to publicly shame him.
He's a public figure who went to a public event with his hands down another dude's pants. Out in the open.

He outed himself.
 

Atlantis

Member
Oct 25, 2017
890
Every gay person knows that the first step to keeping your sexuality a secret is to make out with members of the same sex at a massive festival attended by thousands of people.
 

GameAddict411

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Oct 26, 2017
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I think the idea that some homophobes are closeted people does happen, and even though I do think it's stereotype it also needs to be recognized. The biggest issue with it is that it's not that there is some truth to it, but the fact that it seems that some people(mostly straight people) tend to think that the majority of oppressors are closeted. I think it's false. The majority are straights, and by a long shot.
 

WarLox

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Oct 30, 2017
574
If you weren't a clueless straight person you would know there's a special exception about outing when it's about an anti-gay politician who actively works/worked against other gay people, if you look up gay journalists, commentators, etc you can see their thoughts about the subject, but again it's a position that comes naturally to those of us who understand the subject (through gayness). But please come tell the gays all about outings and coming out, I'm sure you'll know more than us.

Please dont insult me or make assumptions about my sexual orientation just because you dont agree with me. We should be able to have a discussion without insulting each other. If thats the direction you want to take this conversation, then please leave me out of it.
 

Hours Left

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Oct 26, 2017
18,401
This story was done with the intent of shaming him. Weaponizing someone's sexuality is not ok. If he's not out, then outing him is wrong, especially if its with the intent to publicly shame him.
They are shaming his virulently homophobic actions.

You don't go to Coachella and give a guy a public handjob and get to retain any sort mystique about your sexuality.

If he wants to be part of the gay community, and enjoy the benefits of the still hard fought, soul crushing work of combating prejudice, then he needs to step up and make painstaking amends for his past abhorrent actions. Then he can live out his porn fantasies.
 
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red13th

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Oct 25, 2017
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If he wants to be part of the gay community, and enjoy the still hard fought, soul crushing work of combating prejudice, then he needs to step up and make painstaking amends for his past abhorrent actions. Then he can live out his porn fantasies.

Emphasis on the painstaking. Dude was abhorrent, really hope he doesn't get a free pass just because he has a great body (edit: and is white).
 
Sep 14, 2018
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If you're not straight I think that's worse actually, but sure I'll let it go I'm not interested in attempted justifications of his actions while a lawmaker who acted against non straight people, goodbye.
 

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Emphasis on the painstaking. Dude was abhorrent, really hope he doesn't get a free pass just because he has a great body (edit: and is white).

I mean you see in those photos that it's already happening. The gay community can be one of , if not THE most, superficial community on the planet. A lot of terrible people are excused because " he's
so hot tho". It's deplorable and I'm infuriated at the men partying with him, though not the least bit shocked.
The guy who started this , James Duke Mason, is Belinda Carlisle's son and very active politically in the West Hollywood community/ the gay community in general, lovely individual. I'm glad it as him.
 

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How messed up of a person must you be to actively be against gay rights and be an openly gay person at the same time?
 

red13th

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I mean you see in those photos that it's already happening. The gay community can be one of , if not THE most, superficial community on the planet. A lot of terrible people are excused because " he's
so hot tho". It's deplorable and I'm infuriated at the men partying with him, though not the least bit shocked.
The guy who started this , James Duke Mason, is Belinda Carlisle's son and very active politically in the West Hollywood community/ the gay community in general, lovely individual. I'm glad it as him.

Yup. So unfortunate. Two of the guys in the shirtless photo were identified and are apparently vocal against Trump on social media, but get a Republican who's just as bad but is a hot white dude and then politics are no wedge issue.
 

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I don't really see how this is thread worthy honestly. Glad he's a former GOP congressman instead of current I guess but as someone who has gay family members who struggled very much with their sexuality imo this kind of straddles the line of making fun/outing someone with what impact really?

It also drags other people into this who I'm sure would rather not have anything to do with it, and like most people have no idea he's a former GOP congressman.
 

Titik

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Oct 25, 2017
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As Dan Savage already said, you can't really out someone who is making kisses with other guys in public. At Coachella.
 

Titik

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't really see how this is thread worthy honestly. Glad he's a former GOP congressman instead of current I guess but as someone who has gay family members who struggled very much with their sexuality imo this kind of straddles the line of making fun/outing someone with what impact really?

It also drags other people into this who I'm sure would rather not have anything to do with it, and like most people have no idea he's a former GOP congressman.
I'm fine with it since it is being done by members of the lgbt community. You don't attack our rights and think you can get away with and no one will notice. Now if it was a trashy straight mag like the enquirer or some such, then yeah. But this is being spotlighted by actual members of the community he used to attack. As a gay, they have my blessing.

The worse part is that this fucker hasn't apologized for it or has started working on rectifying his past sins to the community. He is literally using his white gay male privilege here because he probably thinks that because he is hot, that he can get away with it. Not today, Satan. Not today.