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Akira86 said:
digital op did you find some heart shaped herb? did you become the black panther and not tell us lmao? you're taking on all comers. it's impressive.
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I can only dream of possessing a heart shaped herb Bruh lol

NoName999 said:
Yes

In this case in addition to the ex-nazi capers, there's also:

The white journalists who venture to Trump county to await the "pivot" when these specimen realize that Trump conned them. Apparently white people in Trump county are just simply so stupid that we must study them like they're unintelligent animals with no agency of their own.

The white socialists who think who thinks minority rights should be thrown in the back burner so they can get their sweet socialism. Then they can focus on solving bigotry... eventually... honest. Apparently white people really love socialism but seeing a brown person wanting to be treated like a human scares them to running back into cutthroat capitalism. I guess GROWN ASS white adults become scared little children if a minority so much as scoffs.

The white moderate who's more concerned about someone on a forum screaming "fuck you" than the children being ripped away from their parents and thrown in a concentration camp. Apparently s/he has such fragile hearing, a swear word is enough to make their ears bleed but not the sound of children crying in despair

The white resetera members that are over 18 who still fear their parent's wrath if they call them out on their racism. Apparently these white parents, who would dismissed or even disown their child if s/he ever calls them out on their bigoted behavior, truly and deeply loves their kid. I'm not gonna be as hard on this with minors, but good gravy, this is not healthy. My mother wouldn't even so much as think less of me when I called her out on her homophobic or anti-Muslim views.

The white savior who think they have the answers. Apparently they have all the answers and if people listened to them, racism would be solved. But don't expect them to act like an actual savior and ACTIVELY participate in combating racism. They don't have the time. Let the coloreds do that. They got better things to do like prostrate their superiority om a video game forum.

Like these are my biggest problems people like me, The Kree, and DigitalOP are pissed off about. Apparently, we can't hold white people, our fellow human beings, our fellow creatures with free will and intelligence, to an average standard of an adult human that we give to everyone else. They must always be coddled. They must always be placated. They must never be made uncomfortable. Like we can't joke that "Must be nice to have much lower chance of being shot by the police" without one fragile white person screaming "WEEE WEEE WEEEE!" Black people are being shot by the cops. Muslims fear wearing a headscarf in fear of being attacked. Legal immigrants are risked being deported.

And yet it always ALWAYS come back to at least one white person crying about his feelings. His discomfort. And it's getting annoying. Good on this ex-Nazi for leaving the club. His actions still harmed and quite possibly killed people and he should answer for that somehow.

I probably went off on a tangent. I don't really care.
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Thats a great way to lay it out.

Idde said:
Okay...now my head hurts...I'm guessing this is a sociological theory? I'll try to come up with a decent reply, thanks for responding :)

Could you elaborate on the first bolded as well? As well as the second?

I think what your going for is that it takes a lot of effort to show empathy for my point of view, doubly so given the circumstances of the aggrieved party?

I agree that it's fucking depressing. Especially given the uncertainty of the results, which should definitely happen. I'm going to bed now, tomorrow my replies should be more intelligent (hopefully).
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What I suggest for you to do is go on Youtube and watch every Tim Wise video you can.

This goes for everyone else. Watch Tim Wise on Youtube.

excelsiorlef said:
Bluntly this dude realized racism is bad


But his real sympathy lies with those who he used to be like

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NoName999 said:
So basically he's a white Darryl Davis who got away with possible murder.

Greeeeeeat. :|
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Yeah.... this isn't the guy to cape for. He's only looking to make a buck.

He's dead wrong about who needs love the most. That would be the victims he left in his destructive wake. Thats who needs love.


The thread caping for the wrong guy. Robert Byrd would probably be more in your lane. And even then Robert Byrd isn't perfect.... He still had flaws as a reformed KKK member and was against LGBT but he said this:

Byrd later called joining the KKK "the greatest mistake I ever made."[20] In 1997, he told an interviewer he would encourage young people to become involved in politics but also warned, "Be sure you avoid the Ku Klux Klan. Don't get that albatross around your neck. Once you've made that mistake, you inhibit your operations in the political arena."[21] In his last autobiography, Byrd explained that he was a KKK member because he "was sorely afflicted with tunnel vision—a jejune and immature outlook—seeing only what I wanted to see because I thought the Klan could provide an outlet for my talents and ambitions."[22] Byrd also said in 2005, "I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times ... and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."
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that at least starts to sound like someone who wants to reform, He criticized himself not his victims.
 
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Idde said:
Look man, I agree with pretty much everything you typed in your previous post. You (as in, black people) don't owe anyone anything. It's not up to you to extend the olive branch for the millionth time. White people should care more about the lives of black americans, and the inhumane shit you have had to put up with for the past two decades. And if they really cared white people should speak up against blatantly (or less blatanty) racist family members. So, just to reaffirm, I agree with you on most everything. Most everything.

So what I'm about to say now is not to take away from what you just wrote, but I'd like to tell my take on this. Not because it's about me, (I'm actually (almost) totally unimportant in this) but because I'm an example of a white person who thinks shit has to change, but who does get defensive when confronted with flagrant language about white people. I completely realize I shouldn't be, and you have every goddamn right to speak angrily but still...

I'm a Dutch guy, and we had the wonderful tradition of Sinterklaas with Black Pete. I can still recall the topics on NeoGAF why this had to change. I tried to explain time and time again what it meant for me, and that for me it wasn't racist. The posts that changed my view the most were actually the ones from the one or two black people who gave me the idea they actually tried to understand me. Did they owe me to listen to me? No. Was it up to them to change my mind? Again, no. Did it help me. Yeah. Definitely. I thought something like: "I'm doing my best to explain myself, and you're not bothering to read my post, but call me racist anyway? Than why the fuck should I listen to you?" And that sucks. Because I shouldn't be defensive, I should try to understand why it's so hurtful. That's way more important.

And my white hurt fragility is soooo fucking unimportant compared to all the shit poc have to go through. But for me it DID play a role. What you should do with this? I don't know. I'm ashamed of all the white people who voted for that orange asshole, I really can't fathom how or why they do that, and a lot of them probably can't be reasoned with. And it's not up to you to do it. White people should step up. But reading the story in the OP, and looking at myself, empathy did have some effect in those cases.
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I would just say that, while it is great that you listened and were willing to consider other views, it may also be worth considering that the correlation between your situation and an actual white supremacist/racist isn't anywhere near as close as it would need to be for your example to be as relevant as you feel. (which is obviously not a bad thing).

I don't know you personally, but I will take your post at face value, and so I will offer: maybe you listened and considered it because it seems you aren't actually interested in hating someone, considering them inferior and wanting them eliminated because of the color of their skin. As such, when people say the things they say about dealing with actual white supremacists and nazis and racists it's because they are dealing with a much different animal.
 
Akira86

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Idde said:
Okay...now my head hurts...I'm guessing this is a sociological theory? I'll try to come up with a decent reply, thanks for responding :)

Could you elaborate on the first bolded as well? As well as the second?

I think what your going for is that it takes a lot of effort to show empathy for my point of view, doubly so given the circumstances of the aggrieved party?

I agree that it's fucking depressing. Especially given the uncertainty of the results, which should definitely happen. I'm going to bed now, tomorrow my replies should be more intelligent (hopefully).
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the expected reactions meet resistance because of human emotional defenses, people get angry over a tradition based on racism and react that way, justifiably, people feel disgust but it's expressed silently, or people react in a neutral manner. people who try to engage on a logical level meet resistance of a different kind and that leads to another range of conflicts and costs. But the thing that moved you was someone else's empathy and vulnerability, and that asks a lot of someone who has already given a lot. Especially when it is you that should have honestly been less defensive.(you claim that people ignored your posts, but what if they had read them quote thoroughly, and understood your attachment to tradition and detachment from racist examples due to lack of exposure, and still held you to task?) So it took a reaction that is becoming less and less likely to unlock that in you, and you're just one person. And the potential is still untapped. Empathy is expensive and it has been wasted and ignored so often, and there's not enough of it to solve this thing.
 
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excelsiorlef said:
It's in the image I posted yeah

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/8umemf/i_am_christian_picciolini_a_former_white/e1ib95y/
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Thanks. I believe he has a point in that those who people believe may not deserve compassion can possibly benefit from it, but I also see that he believes that compassion and only compassion can change people. He speaks in other replies about he does not advocate for violence against hateful people, and that's pretty misguided. People have brought up Boogie in this thread and yeah, that's the same type of mentality Boogie has. He's at least saying they shouldn't be ignored, though.
 

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Elegant Weapon said:
I never said anything about any moderates. I’m not sure why you quoted me and didn’t address any of my points






Wow. He didn’t hesitate to take the obvious bait. What has BLM actually done to be labeled extremists on any level compared to white supremacists? And the lefts attack on free speech?

He even talked about dog whistles and fell right for them, really proping them up by trying to give credence to them
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What is your main point? That violence is an effective way to dissuade or stop domestic terrorism? We have nearly 50 years of evidence that says it isn't. I have no problem punching nazis who are out in public because they are assholes and it is fun to watch on youtube. But i don't think for a second it will stop the systemic issues that led to their current rise and empowerment. Just like i don't think drone strikes will stop terrorism overseas despite the fact it kills terrorists.
 
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Some real Edward Norton shit, It's good that he's trying to make amends somewhat, he tripped himself big time with the mentioning people "owing" attention and how his sympathy lay with people he knew, still more awareness the better.
 
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Carth said:
What is your main point? That violence is an effective way to dissuade or stop domestic terrorism? We have nearly 50 years of evidence that says it isn't. I have no problem punching nazis who are out in public because they are assholes and it is fun to watch on youtube. But i don't think for a second it will stop the systemic issues that led to their current rise and empowerment. Just like i don't think drone strikes will stop terrorism overseas.
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That there isn’t any actual significant amout of violence against Nazis to justify these concerns and this belief that this insignificant amount of violence against Nazis will make them sympathetic is ridiculous
 
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DigitalOp said:
Thank you for the receipts excelsiorlef

This guy isnt doing any work. He's making empty excuses.

I take back what I said about this guy. Fuck this guy.
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excelsiorlef said:




He wants everyone to be therapists for skinheads
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excelsiorlef said:


:|
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It makes you wonder if their is an ulterior motive and agenda. Almost like people are afraid of minorities and liberals getting more aggressive and assertive and deciding to fight back a little. Got to find ways to make us look bad for standing up for ourselves and getting us back to the status quo of everyone running all over us.
 
Dan-o

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oof.
I went into this thinking, "Oh! I've seen this guy before. This should be really interesting!"
and... umm...
Dude needs to re-evaluate a lot of that shit. Holy crap.
 
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excelsiorlef said:


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Thanks for posting all of these. I said in a previous post that there might be some value in him trying to engage with troubled white youth because he could maybe relate to them, but I was definitely wrong and it seems like he doesn't really have anything of value to say...or really anything to say at all.

We have seen what he has to offer (nothing) and now all that remains to be said is that he used to be a Nazi himself, and is currently a Nazi sympathizer.
 
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sph3re said:
I don't blame them, really. If your racial group was a target for the world's largest cult, you'd want to kick the crap out of them, too. You just can't give into the violence, that's the hard part.
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What a patronising statement.
excelsiorlef said:
The emotional weight that the oppressor class expects the oppressed class to carry is abhorrent
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It's because you're not understanding, my dear........
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No matter what white people do they will always be shown humanity.
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It's because they're all lone wolves who are mentally ill. You stupid darkie.
DigitalOp said:
I see its Round 2 today.

And on top of that the thread got WORSE.


Swarm of influx of posters who are just so UNDERSTANDING and PURE. They have all the answers yet too BITCHMADE to call out grandma for talking shit about Obama and black people during Thanksgiving.

You guys really make me sick. Going to come in here and try to tell us whats the right way to deal with White Supremacists and how to respond when our fucking crime is existing. Fucking existing. These motherfuckers bring that vile hatred to our door and all of sudden we have to be "bigger"

As if that route hasn't been tried for 100 years. As if that didn't get Martin a bullet to the head, Didnt get women smashed in the face as they marched for right. As if our kids didnt have their blood pour in the street for less.

Let me make this clear. You aren't progressives. You aren't good people. I have half a mind to say yall are probably racists yourselves if you can sympathize so much with someone who caused so much pain and feel that he doesn't have to pay his due for his crimes. Then try to flip the story on us as if we're perpetuating the shit.

Im not going to quote all of you back. Im not going to waste my fucking time. This goddamn board is fucking full of you who prefer order over the justice you claim to fight for. Alot of you seem to be magical POCs who can't seem to remember what you're actual ethnicity is until its convenient for your argument.

Im so tired of the bullshit you try to feed us. I so tired of your weak ass constitutions. Im tired of your holier than thou god complexes that you perceive make you better than everyone else.

Ill leave these few points just to show how fucking stupid you all sound.


1. Black people came here in chains and have been fucked with ever since. We literally have done nothing wrong yet have fought and struggled to survive. Thats why White Supremacists hate us. Because they cant get rid of us. So fuck you if you think you're owed shit from us.

2. When it comes to our community issues and the Muslim communities issues, we get the ball and chain and Law and Order. There is no COMPASSION. There is demonetization and condemnation from the wide public. From the media. We are condemned wholesale. So fuck you for trying to sell us that bullshit. We never get that shit in return. There's no fucking love coming our way,...

3. Just like Wrapped in Black 's incredible point, You all worship the founding fathers and how this country began in violence. You literally cheer in pride when it comes to American colonists who fought the British VIOLENTLY. But the minute you look at us, we gotta play the peace game. Now all of sudden we're perpetuating the hatred cycle that was brought to our door from jump street. Fuck you for being a hypocrite. I never heard shit about Americans perpetuating a war of hatred with the British. Never came up once in 20+ years on Earth.... wonder why?

4. Fuck you just because I know youll be mass reporting my post clutching your pearls but yet expect to change the hearts and minds of Nazis who say AND DO more vile shit than F Bombs.

5. I have a right to be angry. I have a right to angry at every single one of you who claim that dialogue is the answer but can't seem to check your racist ass family members in your own house. I hope I strike a nerve. I hope you realize how dumb you fucking sound trying to tell us what we have to do when Mom and Dad have been spouting bullshit in your home for years and you haven't done shit because you know they love you and you'd rather not rock the boat. FOH

6. I swear to god White People dont want to be accountable for shit. Never have been held accountable for shit. Someone responded to me how this is EVERYONEs problem.... fuck off a cliff. You can't be serious right now. America was built on the racism and genocide founded and created of White Colonists. This country hasn't done shit to right those wrongs, only exacerbate them. But its our problem now? Its ALWAYS some outside issue for you. Its the economy! Its anxiety! Its Ambien! Its not the person that you actually are!

Kiss my black ass. Own your actions. Own you fucking consequences. I swear to Jesus Christ himself that you want the freedom to act and not deal any of the consequence or results. Society has kissed your ass since Day 1. Thats how we got here. White people don't even want to own the Clown President and you're the ones who fucking voted for him. Jesus, get a grip. It drives us fucking nuts. A black kid shoplifts a few things and apparently it reflects issues that our community has with crime.

A white kid shoots up a fucking school and its because he was misunderstood and Lisa didnt say yes when asked for a date. Its fucking sickening.


Its fucking sickening what yall are doing here. But go ahead.... Clutch your fucking pearls and tell em that Im off the handle because Im tired of all your shit. Im just not afraid to call it out.
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Enzom21 said:
Do you feel the same way for all criminals or just nazis?
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Being a Nazi is just a different political opinion. Stop being so hateful.
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Reminder:
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Yeeeeeeah. I'm not going to treat people who tell me (and other minorities) To show compassion and meet people who deny our very existence half way, with kid gloves.

So that's going to be a big negatory from me for your reminder.
 
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This guy is making race relations worse not better. He's muddying the waters and making gullible moderates find sympathy with White Supremacists while simultaneously condemning the victims as if their involved in perpetuating his hatred.

He's getting paid to do this.

Fuck this guy.
 
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I can't believe some of the stuff being posted in here, sickening. Fuck this guy, once a nazi always a nazi.
 
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It’s obvious why he feels the way he does. He knows that if the necessary treatment of white supremacists had been used on him he wouldn’t be who he is.

He views himself as a victim and wants other people like him to have the same opportunity he did.


While minorities suffer.
 
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So this guy gets to profit from his crimes? And he got away with a bunch of shit and says he's redeemed somehow? Where's the justice for the folks his gang targeted?

Fuck this piece of shit and anyone who even wants to give him the time of day.
 
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excelsiorlef said:
My fav:



He basically says he wasn't really racist.
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YUP.

This quote right here.

"I was never a True Believer."
"What's a True Believer versus a fake one?"
"Oh, uh, True Believers don't exist."

excelsiorlef said:


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"He's a Nazi in personality but he's not a Nazi."

excelsiorlef said:


He wants everyone to be therapists for skinheads
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The problem with this is that stories of people actually able to be talked down from this stuff, while uplifting, are few and far between. Some of these people are just fucked up to begin with. You literally cannot spend the unfathomable amount of time it takes to heal someone and make even the slightest difference on a national or international level.

The takeaway here is that White Supremacists look for fucking idiots, because that's what this guy is. It's great that he sees the error of his ways, but he just comes off as a dude that has absolutely no critical thinking skills.
 

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Idde said:
Look man, I agree with pretty much everything you typed in your previous post. You (as in, black people) don't owe anyone anything. It's not up to you to extend the olive branch for the millionth time. White people should care more about the lives of black americans, and the inhumane shit you have had to put up with for the past two decades. And if they really cared white people should speak up against blatantly (or less blatanty) racist family members. So, just to reaffirm, I agree with you on most everything. Most everything.

So what I'm about to say now is not to take away from what you just wrote, but I'd like to tell my take on this. Not because it's about me, (I'm actually (almost) totally unimportant in this) but because I'm an example of a white person who thinks shit has to change, but who does get defensive when confronted with flagrant language about white people. I completely realize I shouldn't be, and you have every goddamn right to speak angrily but still...

I'm a Dutch guy, and we had the wonderful tradition of Sinterklaas with Black Pete. I can still recall the topics on NeoGAF why this had to change. I tried to explain time and time again what it meant for me, and that for me it wasn't racist. The posts that changed my view the most were actually the ones from the one or two black people who gave me the idea they actually tried to understand me. Did they owe me to listen to me? No. Was it up to them to change my mind? Again, no. Did it help me. Yeah. Definitely. I thought something like: "I'm doing my best to explain myself, and you're not bothering to read my post, but call me racist anyway? Than why the fuck should I listen to you?" And that sucks. Because I shouldn't be defensive, I should try to understand why it's so hurtful. That's way more important.

And my white hurt fragility is soooo fucking unimportant compared to all the shit poc have to go through. But for me it DID play a role. What you should do with this? I don't know. I'm ashamed of all the white people who voted for that orange asshole, I really can't fathom how or why they do that, and a lot of them probably can't be reasoned with. And it's not up to you to do it. White people should step up. But reading the story in the OP, and looking at myself, empathy did have some effect in those cases.
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I'm waiting to see if there's a real response to this before chiming in.

As a black man, I agree with pretty much most of what DigitalOP has said, but this post is essentially "a rational white person including themselves in our comments because they can empathize and rationalize what we are saying." (- to paraphrase what Digital said here, minus a word.) The main difference here being that it's a differing viewpoint to the conversation that wasn't just agreeing with what's already been said.

That and the obvious humor from a comment to the original quote above....
Idde said:
"I'm doing my best to explain myself, and you're not bothering to read my post, but call me racist anyway? Than why the fuck should I listen to you?" And that sucks. Because I shouldn't be defensive, I should try to understand why it's so hurtful. That's way more important.
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Followed by....

The Kree said:
Congratulations on realizing that blackface is a bad idea
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I think John Doe might have been right about something.

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This thread is a great lesson on irony.
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Yeah, screw this dude.

excelsiorlef said:
He wants everyone to be therapists for skinheads
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DigitalOp said:
This guy is making race relations worse not better. He's muddying the waters and making gullible moderates find sympathy with White Supremacists while simultaneously condemning the victims as if their involved in perpetuating his hatred.

He's getting paid to do this.

Fuck this guy.
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Yup. These dudes sound entitled as fuck.
 
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Freakzilla said:
It's the same mentality as "defeat Isis by bombing them"
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No it fucking isn’t and if you don’t understand why, you are beyond hope.

excelsiorlef said:


He needed to make it clear he's not a leftist lol.
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There it is again: “uncertainty.” Yeah, the financial anxiety and uncertainty is what’s making people do this. It’s not that this is what they believe and what they want to fight for. They just get tricked by Trump’s non vague racism into being racists and supremacists.
 

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DigitalOp said:
Do Not Ask Us To Come To The Table In Good Faith When America Has Expressed Its Ill Will For Centuries.
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I don't know why you're making so many things up about what I've said. I didn't say anything about what kind of citizens POC are or what rights POC have. I don't know why you're acting like I'm denying the racial injustice that's been going on for centuries when I've acknowledged it in every one of my responses. I don't know why you're still pretending I think you owe bigots something when I've explicitly pointed out that I don't. I don't know why you're willing to diminish MLK Jr's legacy of pushing progress forward just because you don't like the implication that his strategy had merit. I don't know why you're talking about doing things "in good faith" or acting like I've said it's your job to do any of this when I've deliberately specified the contrary.

I appreciate that you're passionate enough to write this series of speeches about injustice but you're directing this one at an imaginary person, and I'm getting tired of being constantly strawmanned or vilified for presupposed crimes of character. Out of all the things you just addressed, only one of them was one of my actual points, and that was that MLK Jr was good for civil rights, which you're absurdly unwilling to grant. The rest were arguments against positions I've either said nothing about or already made clear I agree with you on. You've completely neglected to engage with my actual argument, that effective tactics do not necessarily align with fair ones.

We have enough enemies already, don't we? Do we need to be inventing new ones out of every disagreement among each other? Do we need to make up a bunch of fake points and arguments so we can pat ourselves on the back for winning them instead of engaging any of the difficult problems? That isn't healthy behavior.

I'll try to lay this out as clearly as I can one final time. All the evidence on the topic that I am aware of points to the conclusions that 1 - some white supremacists have deconverted due to being shown compassion, and 2 - people are predisposed to conservative stances when they feel threatened and liberal ones when they don't. Neither of these points have anything at all to do with what anyone deserves or whose responsibility it is to do anything, neither of them advocate any blanket policy about what is most effective in every scenario, and I am not using either of them to suggest that the issue is settled and not worth further discussion about.

The one specific thing which I propose is that when we find ourselves familiar on an individual, personal scale with a person with a bigoted viewpoint, someone that isn't already very hostile to us, it would more likely be helpful to try reasoning with them in a nonthreatening manner than to make them feel threatened if the goal is to change their mind. You might not feel like doing that, and that's valid. You might have priorities other than changing their mind, and that's valid too. What isn't valid is the idea that nonthreatening reasoning is completely useless and has no place in the fight against bigotry. I want equality and in order to get there we need to at least be rational about which methods are effective for getting there. The evidence, while there's much less than I'd prefer, suggests that conversation is still the most useful legal way in some contexts to do it, which is why I don't like people aggressively discrediting it without reason. That's all.
 
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Shy said:


What a patronising statement.

It's because you're not understanding, my dear........

It's because they're all lone wolves who are mentally ill. You stupid darkie.



Being a Nazi is just a different political opinion. Stop being so hateful.

Yeeeeeeah. I'm not going to treat people who tell me (and other minorities) To show compassion and meet people who deny our very existence half way, with kid gloves.

So that's going to be a big negatory from me for your reminder.
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you're right. hopefully you're not punished for it.
 
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sph3re said:
What? Why?
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"I don't blame them, really. If your racial group was a target for the world's largest cult, you'd want to kick the crap out of them, too. You just can't give into the violence, that's the hard part."

So you politely tell us you understand. But we should turn the other cheek. Nope, nothing patronising about that.
Stop being so radical excelsiorlef. Can't you see he's trying to bring love, and all you're doing is bringing hate.
 
excelsiorlef

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There is quite literally nothing in this AMA of quality, it's platitudes and confirmations of things we already knew.

Maybe his organization does better work i dunno
 
Alucrid

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wouldn't peak normalization be the white supremacist who pretends to have changed their ways and espouses a false solution to changing the mind of white supremacists?

but this guy is probably just an entitled dumbass who's full of himself
 
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