I mean...someone who helped build a white supremacy empire, is certainly someone I have no problem calling a snake oil salesman.It's this one.
He claims he converted 150... but because of Darryl Davis I'd need long term receipts on his converts
Another white supremacist apologist who's bad with analogies. He'd fit in nicely over here for a few weeks.![]()
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Yes he just compared being a racist neonazi teen to being a black kid with weed.
Add it to the list, along with lone wolf and mentally ill.
Yet, by his own admission. He was the leader of the most violent skinhead group in the U.S. Funny that.![]()
He has to make sure people know he was a less violent skinhead than those other skinheads.
Hell, our president is trying to normalize killing your own citizens as "mistakes".
His entire AMA is full of contradictions.Yet, by his own admission. He was the leader of the most violent skinhead group in the U.S. Funny that.
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He has to make sure people know he was a less violent skinhead than those other skinheads.
My name is Christian Picciolini. I am a former member of America's first neo-Nazi skinhead gang (Chicago Area Skinheads). I was recruited in 1987 when I was 14 years old and stayed in the movement for eight years, until I was 22 in 1996. I held a leadership position in the Hammerskin Nation, America's most violent skinhead group. I stockpiled weapons hoping to overthrow the US government, and I was asked to meet with Muammar Gaddafi to form an alliance.
They're just whoopsies. That's in the past, you need to move on.Hell, our president is trying to normalize killing your own citizens as "mistakes".
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no he was in the PR and marketing department of the hammerskin nation. they wore suits and ties.
Like the BNP over here in the U.K.no he was in the PR and marketing department of the hammerskin nation. they wore suits and ties.
Because he wasn't really a Nazi, just confused.
Sounds downright zany. Guess I better pay to read about it!
No, I'm saying that we have moderates in here telling us to use words and empathy to convince white supremacists to give up their hatred and bigotry. Yet they themselves are unwilling to change their minds on a single point of contentionAre you implying that the second group is willing to change their minds on even a single point of contention? 'cause I'm not seeing that at all. I'm seeing more budging on the other side, tbh.
caping in other threads. this one got too real. can't be too overtly white supremacist.
I'm glad that some are catching on to his BS.
The LEADER of a nazi group.I'm glad that some are catching on to his BS.
But.
This entire AMA is just going to reinforce to people:
1) It's okay to hate as long as you don't call yourself a Nazi or join any particular group.
2) Your hatred is justified.
As for the post where he literally says he wasn't a Nazi, in an AMA dedicated to talking about how he was in a Nazi group....
Appeared to whom ? The only people who were arguing that, were the same ones pulling both sides bullshit. The rest of us saw through this cunts's lies.Thanks for the screencaps, excel. At first glance he appeared to be running a decent organization. But there sure are tons of holes in his story, in addition to his inane platitudes and excuses.
Edit: wow @ the last one ^ JFC
Wasn't raised racist, just had his bike stolen once by some black kids.
The smiley face really shows how sincere he is
Damn right we did. We won't get any apologies as well cause there is no compassion for us.The only people who were arguing that, were the same ones pulling both sides bullshit. The rest of us saw through this cunts's lies.
The kind of person who becomes a skinhead over a stolen bike is the same kind of person who ignores your message and stops being an ally because they don't like your tone.Wasn't raised racist, just had his bike stolen once by some black kids.
Again, I honestly wonder how many skinheads are born this way. It reminds me of the article I read where a mom watched her son become a Nazi and she didn't do jack shit about it because "he's my baby".
Those other Nazi groups CERTAINLY killed people. His Nazi group PROBABLY killed people!![]()
He has to make sure people know he was a less violent skinhead than those other skinheads.
It's every fucking thread. Now that excelsiorlef has provided receipts they'll run off to other threads to start their both sides won't someone think of the racists crap all over again.This reminds me of the Peterson thread in that there were a lot of wafflers in the first few pages and gradually as people actually look into his words he becomes less and less defensible.
Many people, including Colin Kaepernick, the Obama administration, and various non-profits.Appeared to whom ? The only people who were arguing that, were the same ones pulling both sides bullshit. The rest of us saw through this cunts's lies.
I stand by it. It’s embarrasing. And gross generalizations are just that... gross. Embarrassing. Take a good look at yourself first.You posted in that completely off-base, shitty thread called "White people should..." "Minorities shouldn't have to" saying you agree with an OP that was, at its core, ignorant and making a point based on something that doesn't exist.
So forgive me if I'm not confident about your ability to question people's age. You're welcome to go back to that thread and read my two posts to see why you, and the original poster, have no idea what you're talking about; maybe chill on coming into other threads talking about other people's posts being "fucking embarrassing" big guy.
We won't. And the next time we'll be told (again) to mind our tone from everyone, including management.Damn right we did. We won't get any apologies as well cause there is no compassion for us.
I was clearly referring to people in this thread.Many people, including Colin Kaepernick, the Obama administration, and various non-profits.
Fuck this dude, and fuck any of you caping for him, slapping him on the back, and suggested he is doing so much good that he doesn't deserve punishment.
Must be fun to be white, just say whatever you want, consistently contradict yourself and people will argue that you're a goddamn hero.I think this dude has twisted some insane logic knots to be where he is now.
I am going to erm....doubt that.I mean it's possible his org is good I dunno... but it's clear to me even if it is that he should not be seen as someone to emulate or "learn from"
I hardly saw any empathy or respect towards the opinions of those folks. I did see people say that they were Nazi-sympathizers, though.No, I'm saying that we have moderates in here telling us to use words and empathy to convince white supremacists to give up their hatred and bigotry. Yet they themselves are unwilling to change their minds on a single point of contention
Many people, including Colin Kaepernick, the Obama administration, and various non-profits.
It's fascinating read the difference between the co-foundersAngela King is a Co-Founder and the Programs Director of Life After Hate. King is an ex-white supremacist who struggled to forgive herself after living years as a neo-nazi.[9] King was raised in Southern Florida by parents she describes as racist and homophobic. King joined hate groups in her early teens after being bullied throughout school and dealing with tensions at home. She found people welcomed her aggressive and violent tendencies. After eight years of being involved with extremist groups, she was imprisoned. In 1988, she was involved of a robbery of an adult video store. After fleeing to Chicago, IL, she was arrested in and brought back to Florida to the Federal Detention Center in Miami and sentenced in 1999 for five years. [9] King was transferred from the detention center, to a county jail, on the terms she would give up information on her former gang members. During her sentence, King met a Jamaican woman who was also imprisoned, who changed her mind about white supremacy. King was released in 2001, determined to begin a new life. After finding a blog entitled, "Life After Hate", she helped co-foundthe organization Life After Hate with blog creator Christian Picciolini. King alongside Picciolini joined with Antony McAleer, Frankie Meeink, Sammy Rangel,& Arno Michaelis to make a non-profit outreach group.[9][10] Today she is committed to help former neo-Nazis and extremists transition from a life of hate.
Christian Picciolini is a Co-Founder of Life After Hate, and prominent member in the ex-extremist community. Originally a Chicago native, Picciolini grew up in Blue Island, Illinois.[11] [12] Picciolini was first introduced to Neo-nazi groups at the age of 14.[13] The idea of being involved with a big movement appealed to him, and Picciolini later recalled how becoming a skinhead gave him an identity and purpose. Seven years later, at the age of 22, he began to question his beliefs and membership.[11] After his wife and children left him and began interacting with people in the groups supremacists hated, he decided to change his life.[11][12][13] By 2009, he co-founded Life After Hate with the mission of helping former neo-Nazis like himself.
Alright.You claim it would be worse without MLK, whats the difference?
Sorry for insulting you by pointing out something you just did. What buzzwords are you talking about? What makes you think that my arguments are to the credit of Christian Piccolini? They're my own and they're how I've felt ever since I heard about the studies that show that conservatives double down when they feel threatened. I haven't praised him once and I doubt I ever will, I'm just glad he's able to expose more about how the neo nazis recruit and operate. His viewpoints don't affect that. I'm eagerly awaiting the day when you can respond to me even a single time without misattributing something to me. You're really proving my point here about focusing on everything other than the actual arguments.Thats just insulting. And stop the buzzwords, that leads nowhere
And I need you to see excelsiorlef s screencaps so you understand you're caping for the WRONG guy here. He's not even doing what you claim is the solution. like AT ALL.
Ill give you a response once I finish reading, but youre way off about this.