Formula One - Off Season Discussion Thread!

Oct 27, 2017
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Which Ferrari got in trouble for, at least in Australia. They need the money though.
That's 1 GP out of 21 and it's still under investigation, Mission logos haven't been banned yet in Australia. I think PM is happy with how their campaign is doing since the first reveal.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Switzerland
but it's not about promoting their product....says their website, lol if anyone believes that
The Mission Winnow logo was designed by Italian architect and designer Fabio Novembre. It is based on the concept of an arrow moving forward. It encapsulates the principle of continuous innovation and improvement and change. As Fabio Novembre puts it, “It is an arrow, a vector, a symbol of science and change, a spectacular symbol that can distinguish fiction from reality.” The design is not intended in any way to reflect our brands or products, and we will not use our partners to advertise our products. In fact, since 2007, we have voluntarily removed all tobacco branding from the cars, bikes, drivers’ and riders’ uniforms and racetrack signage, even in countries where such branding was or is permitted.​
The whole list of FAQs is like snake oil salesman speak.
PMI is actually really investing heavily in research outside of the tobacco industry and pursuing health care related innovation (using the tobacco plant).
The mission winnow is part of that.

I've been in touch with one of their heads in Switzerland and they want to transition away from the tobacco industry as they believe it will become less and less profitable in the coming years.
So.. Yes, marketing, yes capitalism, but in the end, no, its not bullshit.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The major difference between Rich and Rokit is that the trail of Rokit leads back to a (known) billionaire (DeJoria). Storey supposedly made money managing athletes, which I know can be lucrative, but that lucrative?
 
Oct 31, 2017
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Essentially the same as 2018, which is fine because it is a great livery. However it's going to difficult to discern between Renault and Haas. I'm surprised they didn't add more yellow to the side profile.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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McLaren at 33/1 is really tempting here given that the Alonso-effect made that car appear a lot better than it was last season. 9th fastest overall. Just depends on what Williams can do with Kubica, I guess.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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McLaren at 33/1 is really tempting here given that the Alonso-effect made that car appear a lot better than it was last season. 9th fastest overall. Just depends on what Williams can do with Kubica, I guess.
There are very worring rumors for Williams. According to some reports they are struggling to complete the car and they could miss first day of testing.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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There are very worring rumors for Williams. According to some reports they are struggling to complete the car and they could miss first day of testing.
That's really not that rare and no reason for panic, all the teams leave things as close as possible for the first test. Unless they miss testing time it's only an inconvenience.
 

Dan

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Oct 25, 2017
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So another reason why Toro Rosso didnt change their livery much - KTM (backed heavily by Red Bull) in MotoGP's satellite team Tech 3 just revealed their colours:



It's nice to see some parity between marketing in various formulae of Motorsport.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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The major difference between Rich and Rokit is that the trail of Rokit leads back to a (known) billionaire (DeJoria). Storey supposedly made money managing athletes, which I know can be lucrative, but that lucrative?
Rich has David Sullivan and David Gold involved in an unknown capacity.
 

Dan

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ugh, F1 TV Pro is supposed to go live here on the 18th and no sign on pricing yet (access is €26,99 annually).
Thats the archive price. The live TV package is closer to 150-200 euros.

EDIT: Beautiful livery by Mercedes. That is a testing livery by Red Bull. Expect them to go back to their normal powder matte livery come Melbourne
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Thats the archive price. The live TV package is closer to 150-200 euros.
Not sure where you're located, but I'm assuming the Pro package will be priced similarly in The Netherlands, to Germany and Belgium, which are both €64,99... anything above €100 is a hard nope.

That Red Bull, shame it's a just the launch livery, just like last year.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Damn that is a sexy Merc, somehow it gets better every year.

The Red Bull looks awesome, shame it won't stick around. That being said I do prefer their usual look.