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Are you reading my comment? I said the mod team has go to through a LOT of stuff everyday so they can't be everywhere. I'm not agreeing with the other poster.
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Fornite skin based off an artist's design (UPDATE: It was actually a fake stunt by the artist)
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This, and the worse thing about it is that they probably aren't gonna learn anything from this and soon they will do it again.
Another reason Jim Sterling's content is terrible. The fanboyism for him on Era is bizarre. All he does is get mad at shit
I watched the video. He was presenting it as an allegation that hadn't yet been proven/disproven and mentioned the stuff about DeviantArt letting you edit images without that edit showing up. He was leaning more towards believing the kid in the video but it was very clear that it was still a developing story. The main reason he took it down was probably what he said it was in his tweet: keeping the story in general from spreading further.
I stand by my statement that he was spreading hate and suspicion. Have you read his comments sections?
He needs to post a retraction video.
Suspicion maybe but hate? I don't see it, not in this case. He was being very calm and collected in that video.
You keep adding irrelevant shit to your posts after I've already quoted them so I'm gonna reply to this once more. The height of irony here is that you're doing the exact same thing you're accusing others of doing. That you can't see how you're just revealing your own hypocrisy by accusing Jim of spreading "hate and suspicion" based on the fact that he took the video down rather than its content, just shows how hollow your other posts in this thread were.
So again, did you watch the video or not? If you can't answer this simple question, don't bother replying.
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Just like Fortnite, except they can't do a Take the L dance on my dead body
Honestly I would take less issue with the way he handled this if he prefaced in his video that he would take it down if the accusations were false. Why else would he upload it if he wasn't betting on the story being true? If he knew that editing a video title wouldn't stop misinformation from spreading? Like everyone else in this thread he should have waited.
I don't belive there to be any nuance but if there was, he eliminated it by taking down the video.
Totally agree. Also, I completely read that in Bautista's voice which made it so much better.
I guess we'll see, won't we? Wake me up when racists aren't being en-masse deservingly shamed on Twitter, and I'll rub my eyes to see your world. For every story where people got it wrong, there are two stories of bullshit rightfully being called out, so it's hard to imagine the world you want becoming a reality, and I hope it never does. It would say more about the individuals downplaying those incidents and the positive impact they have to want them to disappear.
I get where you're coming from, I get when you look at it from a certain angle, how could anyone say "mob justice" is a good thing? I'll give you one reason: accountability. The way things have always been is racists or Republicans or whoever is shit, they get away with it, they have their little moments and they spew their bullshit and everyone moves on. Usually there is no recourse for that, because everyone has the right to say what they want, so what can happen to them? nothing, really. Enter Twitter. Now, people have the tools to finally be able to converge and fight back against that stuff. People need to watch what they say, because there are millions who are ready to call them out if they trip up. People are finally *accountable* to a degree they were not before. That, to me, and to the people who historically haven't had as much of a voice, is a good thing.
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I was wondering if Epic were to take legal action against him for ruining their image, is it possible to sue ?
I know it's not worth it but I'm just wondering. I'm not good with laws especially in US
I know it's not worth it but I'm just wondering. I'm not good with laws especially in US
You're aware of the content of this thread, just complete outrage over something that never happened, and you think people liking Sterling is bizarre?
Just wanted to say props to you for standing up for your friend's integrity in the face of Era's embarrassing mob mentality. Hopefully you've gotten some apologies from the folks who told you your friend was a thief.
Again, he was leaning towards it being true but he wasn't presenting it as fact and he did mention the DeviantArt edit situation. So yeah, there was definitely some nuance there but it's true that it would've been better for him to wait a bit longer for all the facts to come out.
Same. And this exact same situation will happen again. As it has happened like 5 times since the year started.
Retractions vs corrections are an ongoing discussion in journalism and since there are no universal legal or ethical standards it's really difficult to decide what to do. Even though I never had to do it for something on this scale, I've had colleagues around me having to deal with it. For someone like Jim who doesn't produce content in a traditional way, isn't working as a traditional journalist and doesn't really have a traditional platform but shares it between YouTube and Twitter, this is even more difficult. I don't know what I'd have done in his situation but ultimately, his video lost its journalistic value once it came out that it was all a hoax and he thought that keeping it up would only cause more damage. Especially once the (luckily still unknown?) freelance artist was starting to be pulled into the limelight, I tend to agree with him. Did he jump the gun? Yes. Sadly, you still produce content for your readership/audience and if they want to you to talk or write about a topic, you are more than often forced to heed the call. Seeing as many were out for blood, his take was extremely levelheaded.
My problem with this entire discussion around Jim Sterling's video is that a lot of people are accusing him of doing something he didn't do based on a video they didn't see. Which is an extremely idiotic thing to happen in this very thread.
Plus that just seems like an unfair standard standard for any kind of reporting? There have been many legal cases where all the facts don't come out for years. Are you just never supposed to talk about issues till then? How do you know when all the facts are presented? How do you know another twist won't come a week from now for a second time?
I understand that he wasn't presenting it as fact. I just don't understand, for precisely that reason, that he believed the accusations could also be false, to just delete the video later BECAUSE they were false.
I don't even get the reactions on the first couple of pages and I saw the thread before the update yesterday. Had there actually been plagiarizing, it is likely more often going to happen because one worker finds a drawing to plagiarize off of and then pushes their finished products to their bosses who says "Oh wow you did some great work on this one, good job!" and approves it to be integrated into the game (in this case it was a freelancer and not an employee). This is a much different situation than a dance move, widely known because of pop-culture, being included in a game (before you even get to who the original creator of the move is, is the work actually capable of gaining defensible copyright, etc.).
It's Fortnite. People have their knives out for this game, and anything their creators do currently.
It's a shame.
Precisely. I get the feeling that more people are concerned with Jim having to see consequences for making a video rather than setting the record straight. It was a minor fuckup on his part because of his style and tone, not the content.
Yes, his reviews were good but all he does is rant.
Era took a big L on this. Let's see if the apologies start coming in.
If this person got banned because of this thread, unban this man
Jim and Era love drama far too much lol, absolute embarrassment.
Buncha morons, how are some of these comments in Fortnite threads repeatedly allowed to stay up without any warning?
This reads like he still would have deleted the video if the story were true. Kind of seems like things played out unfortunately for him.
They clearly didn't as that post has no ban text.
They got banned for this: https://www.resetera.com/threads/fo...fake-stunt-by-the-artist.108775/post-19425904
Recommend sites where people would not have had an initial reaction?
Yes, it's a legitimate problem when it actually is a case of plagiarism and theft. I agree with you, and it does suck when there's apathy for when it happens with a company that people generally like--though the exact opposite happened in this thread and should be condemned as well. Defamation holds the same weight as plagiarism for me. They both fuck someone over pretty hard so I always approach things with skepticism until everything is on the table and I can make a decision on how I feel about the situation based on the truth.
I've reported far more antagonizing posts that were ignored by the mods, but whatever. If you feel strongly about it you can contact a mod captain and ask them to look into it.
Razor Mom - Not familiar with your name, and I only read first 3 pages then jumped to here.
You did come in with teeth showing, but at the same time, while not entirely justified, we're all human and I can understand your fierce loyalty prompting your reaction so no judgement here.
That being said, going by the thread-title change, you were fully redeemed, and fuck ya when you see something like "fierce loyalty" paying off as often times people are let down. I'm glad you were not. Way to vouch for your friend. I wasn't going to post in this thread, but ya, wanted to pass on my props to you.
You did come in with teeth showing, but at the same time, while not entirely justified, we're all human and I can understand your fierce loyalty prompting your reaction so no judgement here.
That being said, going by the thread-title change, you were fully redeemed, and fuck ya when you see something like "fierce loyalty" paying off as often times people are let down. I'm glad you were not. Way to vouch for your friend. I wasn't going to post in this thread, but ya, wanted to pass on my props to you.
User Banned (3 Days): Driving thread derailment and modwhining; making a hostile report
The issue is not "having an initial reaction". And all I'm saying is that Era is not going to change in this respects. Not without drastic moderation changes.
You can look at the poster history. Looks like the user was banned for the above comment.
Gonna agree there. Especially since the people who used that same kind of language towards Epic were not even handed a warning. (And sure, there's a difference between referring to another member directly or referring to a bigger, faceless entity but it still strikes me as odd.)
User Banned (3 Days): Driving thread derailment and modwhining
All I can think of is calling him a moron, but going by that a few others in the last couple of pages should be banned.
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