Ubi + EA along with MS have said the opposite, recurring model provides greater returns over a longer period. Also the discounted rate isn't the default rate. This is an outdated way if thinking.
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Fortnite lost its #1 most played spot on the xbox store it had since summer 2018. Gears 5 ends the run
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Did nobody tell this guy it's a 56 gig demo?
Good to see the dollar new sub trolling is still going strong. Forza Horizon 4 hit what 12 million new 1 dollar subs? Now Gears is hitting millions of 1 dollar subs. Sea of thieves had like 6 million one dollar subs at some point.
Nah. Getting more players to play your games is better in the long run for a game then the initial sales.
The problem isn't the skill ceiling, a high skill ceiling is a good thing and encourages longevity in the player base.
The issue is accessibility and the skill floor.
They've tried to address that with arcade though
Especially since all xbox game studio titles are cross buy win 10 store. So anyone with game pass ultimate owns both xbox and pc and would have zero reason to double dip on pc lol.
Those NPD positions and numbers weren't confusing for any of us. Sea if Thieves for instance, it being the most successful Rare game released. Available during a period of free Gamepass subs. This is data, by all means scoff at it as much as you want but the fact remains, MS have linked the uptick to Gamepass which has been proven so far, you've not been able to provide a strong reason to doubt it.
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Hard to pinpoint if it's indeed a worldwide success with only these countries, still waiting for the confirmation on how it's doing on the north pole, Antarctica, Vatican, and other big gaming markets like these to confirm whether it's a success or not.
My favorite Gears campaign by far. Will probably sink into MP more than other Gears in the past. Amazing game.
With Borderlands 3 releasing? I think that's unlikely. I also feel that Game Pass did a lot of the heavy work here.
lol, did you forget Gamepass exists? You'll be looking forward to September's NPD I take it?
Yeah, I guess BL3 is multiplat. That usually is enough to put it over the top.
Yeah that's not how it works when it comes to installing and writing it to the harddrive, that becomes the limiting time factor lol.
Are you a troll bot?!?!
Honestly I'm shocked apex didn't the first month it came out. Shit was huge but I guess fortnite was the bigger fish, that is until "A GODDAMN LEVIATHAN" came along.
That is a weird reaction. I think Gears 5 is going to sell extremely well.
No, I didn't forget Game Pass exists. Yes, I'm looking forward to September's NPD results.
"Just shows how shit games in the Xbox store are"
"Microtransactions are fundamental to Xbox games, just look at Forza 7 and Sea of Thieves."
"Steam players show a starkly different picture."
"Oh Microsoft must be losing so much money for mindshare."
"I count in those stats because I downloaded as a GPU test, won't ever play."
"I fear for the future of game design with the GamePass model."
This thread is a fucking dumpster fire. All because Xbox has a successful franchise.
"Microtransactions are fundamental to Xbox games, just look at Forza 7 and Sea of Thieves."
"Steam players show a starkly different picture."
"Oh Microsoft must be losing so much money for mindshare."
"I count in those stats because I downloaded as a GPU test, won't ever play."
"I fear for the future of game design with the GamePass model."
This thread is a fucking dumpster fire. All because Xbox has a successful franchise.
^such truth in this. Yet, people still look for ways to bring in a negative mindset on why something is successful.
you said download. you do know that you can just press download and it installs it by itself? what's even your point?
I'm so glad Gears 5 is seeing success, especially with the pivot to a female lead for the campaign. I'm dying to play it but won't have time until I simmer down from Apex Season 2, MHW Iceborne, Astral Chain, and Borderlands 3. Way too much good shit out right now, and I feel bad for making Gears 5 wait considering how good it looks.
And you said 50 sec, it may download at high speeds but you cannot play it until it is written to the harddrive and installed. So no matter how fast your internet you are gonna be waiting a good long while to install a 56 gig DEMO on a console. Unsterstand now? Lol
they all remind me of
alt right snowflakes who demand to be heard
What they have said is not contradictory to what I have said. All they are saying is that a subscription is often more valuable than a sale. That is not the same as saying that a download via subscription is more valuable than a game sale. The point being that Microsoft will make more money from:
Two million people play Gears, all of them buying it at retail
than
Two million people play Gears, all of them downloading it via GamePass
As for why: Long term subscribers to GP are there for the range of games, and so the value of a specific game is going to be a fraction of the cost of GP. Short term subscribers to GP (who subscribe for a specific game) are paying far less than they would pay at retail. In the case of Gears, where there are likely to be a higher than normal number of short term subscribers paying a massively discounted amount, all of this is even more true.
It's great that many millions are playing Gears. What you can't easily do is compare it with a game that isn't available on Game Pass. The notion that Microsoft is making as much or more money out of the person who spent £1 to play Gears 5 for a month than the person that spend £40 to own Gears 5 is completely ridiculous.
Because people can't let Microsoft have one victory. As if it will set off negative chain of events they are trying to prevent.
Apex had no marketing hype build-up. That game was announced and then released the same day. On top of that, not everyone was excited about it due to it not being a traditional Titanfall game.
But ya know...when you say there's a bunch of concern trolling going on...people want to say otherwise. ;)
I was trying to tell people TC planned for a certain amount of Ultimate players and got completely overwhelmed. It was a great sign even if it meant live was perpetually on fire for 3 days.
NBA2K20 has that wrapped up but it should be top 3 I would imagine.
I'm not sure why you think 'value ' means retail money. Microsoft clearly favors MUAs now as a sign of health of their gaming endeavors.
For example... Do you know for sure that selling a million physical copies matters more to MS than getting 2 million Gamepass subscribers?
Sure, you get more money up front, but you can bet there are forward projections and forecasts at MS estimating revenue from each Gamepass subscription.
Nah. More like
1. Borderlands
2. NBA 2k20
3. Madden
4. FIFA
5. Gears
It could've gotten to 3 without gamepass. But those sales aren't as important as attracting new users
I'm happy for them but it's basically close to being free so the real numbers will be in a few weeks when we can see if the game has legs to retain those players who are only playing at the moment cause they had $2 to spare.
Digital sales get boosted from Game Pass. Retail for Xbox is just a small slice now.
And it'll be in the top 3. Madden will be in its third month, and I think FIFA gets outsold.
FIFA doesn't do those sorts of numbers in the US and Madden has been out since July. I do wonder if Zelda might make a surprise showing.
Jesus,
people are predictably downplaying this but anyone who closely follows the store rankings understands what a massive deal this is.
I'm curious to see the actual sales numbers outside of gamepass as this would be a good indicator of how many folks are actually playing through gamepass.
Wow, congrats to Rod and the team! Special shout out to Xbox's marketing team as well. I never doubted, you.
The game is fantastic and happy to see it paired with Gamepass for what is likely an impressive player count
I imagine this game is going to convert a ton of people who signed up for the GPU promotions into actual subscribers. If MS strategy is to bridge the launch of their tent pole titles with smaller releases sprinkled throughout the year, they're going to grow their subscription base exponentially by keeping a lot of these new subscribers. The Outer Worlds, Ori 2, Minecraft Dungeons, Wasteland 3, Psychonaughts 3, Bleeding Edge, Gears Tactics and the AoE games are all launching day and date into the service leading up to Halo Infinite's launch.
The game is fantastic and happy to see it paired with Gamepass for what is likely an impressive player count
I imagine this game is going to convert a ton of people who signed up for the GPU promotions into actual subscribers. If MS strategy is to bridge the launch of their tent pole titles with smaller releases sprinkled throughout the year, they're going to grow their subscription base exponentially by keeping a lot of these new subscribers. The Outer Worlds, Ori 2, Minecraft Dungeons, Wasteland 3, Psychonaughts 3, Bleeding Edge, Gears Tactics and the AoE games are all launching day and date into the service leading up to Halo Infinite's launch.