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Fortnite lost its #1 most played spot on the xbox store it had since summer 2018. Gears 5 ends the run
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It has an entire two extra years of development time then any other mainline halo game (barring the first one). I'm cautiously optimistic that the game is going to be one for the books.
Not to mention 343 has gotten the MP down with Halo 5, and they had a good direction for the campaign in Halo 4. Couple that with more open traditional Halo levels, and I can see Infinite breaking records.
I don't agree and I am not alone in this that they dropped the ball hard on Halo 5 MP. I actively dislike it compared to the older games. it's also why I am unsure of halo infinite.
Take a look at the top games in US. The top 16 (I stopped counting) are all multiplayer games. Yes Gears has a campaign that people are playing, but even more people are playing it for the MP.
I know that plenty of people didn't like the direction of Halo 5's MP, but it was nowhere near as badly received as Halo 4 and even to an extent Reach.
I can see 343 messing with some of the abilities (but please don't remove thruster), but the core of Halo 5 MP is very solid imo.
It was as badly recieved as Halo 4, The thing is none of 343's games have lived up to previous halo's before they took over. Halo Infinite is basically the big chance they have but there's no guarentee it's going to be a huge hit.
The main difference I see from gears to halo anymore is gears 4 was still a pretty good foundation which gears 5 took, Halo 5 to me is a poor foundation that halo infinite has, heck one of the most fundamental parts of the game the aiming is something that has turned me off of the game and I hope it's better in infinite I just won't know till i play it.
Sure, but that's the differential it has over Apex. Any amount of people downloading it and kicking around the campaign for a couple hours will help.
Consumers aren't rational.
I can only look at my own behviour, and while it doesn't directly translate, when i was torrenting music i spent way more on actual cds. 'Free' access increased my appetite. A similar thing happened when i was into steam sales. The more games i had access to, the more i wanted to buy but only up to a point. Now i have a music sub and i have access to all the music, so no need to buy anything more.
Since gamepass doesn't give access to all the games like spotify, i can see it acting as an appetite enhancer, and causing people to actually spend more on games. Not the games on the service of course, I am just talking overall spend.
No doubt and Fortnite will likely continue as number 1 for the remainder of this gen which is what makes this feat impressive.
If anything, I can see NBA2k or Borderlands being #1. There were various times that 2k19 was the #2 most played game
Uh, I was also around for the Halo 4 and Halo 5 launch. Halo 5 had no where near as bad a reception multiplayer wise. It was also consistently populated for years after launch and you can still actively find matches.
It doesn't mean it's a good multiplayer game. you can still find matches in pretty much every halo game.
Halo 5 has the best multiplayer of the series, I'd argue it's still the best arena shooter in its field.
It barely misses the mark and has tainted the series for a lot of people because of the poor launch.
I absolutely disagree, it has the worst multuplayer in the series and has hurt the series more than any other game in the franchise, it's made me extremely wary of halo infinite and the halo franchise in general. I don't have faith in 343 because of it. The worst part is that I enjoyed halo 5 in the beta but they changed the aiming and killed it for me after that.
Just as many would disagree with you. Halo 5 is a decisive game in the franchise.
I disagree. I think it hit the mark quite well and a lot of people would agree.
In general, not every consumer buys games like we do. There are maybe 2-3 purchase a year for the vast majority.
Gamepass is a lower entry point they puts all these games in people's hands and sets up significantly longer tails on games for DLC.
Most games only make money in the first month of life. Gamepass games have really long tails that can be monetized and the communities can last longer.
I've never played a Monster Hunter game before. Was bored and downloaded the base game on game pass two weeks ago because I didn't want to play what I had.
I enjoyed it and bought iceborne. Without GP, they would never have gotten that sale from me because i would never give it a shot.
No, but it does mean that it was widely received as a good halo game. It didn't have nearly as much criticism as Halo 4 and it's MP is "known" for being good.
Also, you're moving the goalposts. I'm not arguing whether it was a good MP game or not. I said that it didn't have as poor of a reception as Halo 4. And that's true.
Halo 5 had a bad launch?
I'm not gona argue with your opinion or tastes, for me I love it. I played some quite recently in ranked and it still holds up like nothing else for me personally.
I mean now yes I can see that, but launch basically went the same way as Halo 4 in my eyes and the game needed to be patched a bunch and content needed to be put out just so it was at least enjoyable to play. The two halo games 343 has made so far were just like destiny and needed to sit a year or two before they got good.
I.... Don't remember this at all. Yes BTB wasn't there at launch and released a few months later, but Arena and Warzone were great at launch.
I do hope though that this time around BTB doesn't take a backstage to any of the other modes. It's easily my favourite mode to play.
I get what you're saying, though we'll have to agree to disagree on the matter haha. I really enjoyed Halo 5's MP at launch, and the updates only made it better.
As bad as 4 was and 5 (although I felt 343i found their footing more with 5, it's just that wack ass story and Locke that ruined it), no Halo game has been as bad as Reach.
Reach was so bad and it damaged the IP to the point where 4 & 5 (to a lesser extent) were still paying for its sins.
I don't believe that at all, Reach never did damage to the halo franchise that 5 has done, 5 turned so many people that I know off of halo because of how bad it was.
This. Gamepass represents RECURRING revenue which is more advantageous than single sales. Ignore xbox live gold. Gamepass at $10 a month over the course of a year is $120. So $120 a year per person or two games a year. So one person on game pass for 5 years averages them the same revenue as someone who buys ten games. That's worth more than single sales.
That's wrong. Halo 5 gets a lot of credit for being the most balanced Arena shooter on consoles this gen. It had vocal opposition due to sprint but the game is perfectly balanced. Most people that I friended on Halo 5 early on still play the game. Halo 4 was a poor imitation of COD. Almost nobody lists it as their favorite multiplayer or thought it held up great. Halo 5 has a passionate community and the multiplayer was also well received by reviewers who rightly thought the campaign was a train wreck.
Why do I need to source something that is common sense? These kind of trial subscriptions aren't some kind of new-fangled invention which we have no understanding of. Someone willing to pay £1 to try something for a month or £2 for two months is relatively unlikely to spend £10.99/mo long term thereafter. Some will, but most will not. It doesn't make it a bad ploy from Microsoft's point of view by any means, as they get a bit of money from people that would likely have ignored Gears 5 entirely otherwise, and some will stick, but based on the long history of these kind of deals, and based anecdotally on the people I know, most people will not stick with it. I wouldn't be remotely surprised if Microsoft were content with turning 20% or less of their triallists into long term subscribers.
I mean, you're not the first person trying to push this narrative of there being loads of haters in here, but just reading through the first few pages it doesn't actually hold any water at all. The vast majority of posts in here are positive about Gears and Game Pass and most of them are overwhelmingly so. The debates in this thread are primarily between those who think that Game Pass is a unicorn and people who don't.
It worked on me, as someone who wasn't sure about a monthly sub now I can't imagine not having gamepass, it's a great service
You got any links? would love to read up on what other sites are saying. :)
Firstly, common sense should tell you that there's a reason why these type of deals are very popular and prevalent.
It worked for Apple Music. It'll work for Apple TV+. It works for Amazon Kindle Unlimited. Works for Audible.
Actually, going by anecdotal evidence, the general impression here on Era is that Gamepass is a pretty solid deal, and the service has lots of great games, with excellent titles added monthly. While - from reading what you usually post - I have no doubt that several of your acquaintances will not renew, I'm certain that retention figures for folks trialing out the subscription will be quite good and not the 'small minority' you allege.
Because, frankly, most People aren't gonna play just Gears 5 for that $2. They'll see Metro, FH4, DMC 5, KI and many other titles. And they'll keep on playing.
Even people that don't stay now, getting someone in the door is the first step to getting them to try it again in the future.
Next another game comes out and it's normal price, the yygo 'that's a good deal, I had a good time last time, I'll do it again' and they do.
Next another game comes out and it's normal price, the yygo 'that's a good deal, I had a good time last time, I'll do it again' and they do.
I mean to be fair, Fortnite is also F2P. They both have very low barrier for entry.
I never said it wouldn't work.
Never judge anything anecdotally based on ERA, but yes, Game Pass is a very good deal, especially while Microsoft are discounting it significantly.
That's a bit further than I'd go, but yes, it has a good selection of games and they are consistently adding more.
I don't think "quite good" and a "small minority" are opposites. If 20% (which is a small minority by any definition) of the triallists subscribe long term, that would be great. As I've said repeatedly, Game Pass is a good venture, I like it, and am optimistic about its future. It still obeys the laws of economic gravity.
You are living in some bizarro world. Reach absolutely damaged Halo and then 4 killed it. Mcc gave us a glimmer of hope but it was broken. I had no excitement for 5 and neither did my group who gave up on Halo but it actually was alright. Equal starts, better launch maps than the previous two games, a pretty good weapon sandbox that actually made Ar starts not ass.
And no, I'm not in love with the abilities but they were handled better than Reach and 4 for the most part. My main complaint is the aiming is terrible for whatever reason.
I believe they can make Infinite great. I just hope we see/play it soon.
Has this been mentioned? Gears 5 ultimate edition has disappeared from the most played list and now there's only the standard edition at #8.
Presumably it was never intended for them to be treated separately, but it's now temporarily undercounted. I'd imagine it will boost a bit higher the next time things update.
This guy knows.
In the UK right now it is:
Borderlands 3
Fortnite
GTA V
Minecraft
Fifa 19
Doubt it will in the US, CoD and RDR2 didnt stop Fortnite. Gears had Gamepass, Borderlands doesn't.
Edit: Looks like Im wrong just checked the US numbers lol. I knew Borderlands was big but not THAT big.
Lots of people of underestimate Borderlands. Maybe Fortnite is just losing some steam(temporarily) too.
I do think Fortnite must be losing steam, as games like CoD and RDR2 were both massive and didn't topple it, while we just had two games in a row that did. Not to diminish Gears 5's and BL3's accomplishments, but I do think Fortnite fatigue is at play.
I was banned over my comment.
So let me just say I own an Xbox One X (and a Switch, and a Pro), and am currently enjoying Horde in Gears 5. I am not a fanboy.