Fortnite Player FaZe Jarvis Banned After Using Aimbot, Says He Didn't Know He Could Be Banned For Life For Using It

Oct 31, 2017
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I really don’t believe the ban is too extensive and Epic is well within their right to ban him for this long. Playing a game in a multiplayer space isn’t a right, it’s a privilege, and that privilege and all the rules you must abide are clearly written out in the TOS. 17 or 15 or younger doesn’t matter, you don’t use cheating software and not know you’re cheating. Sucks for him that he lost his mode of income but he played a risky game and lost his job opportunity for it. This is equivalent to any job any 17 year old (or any person working in general) takes and abuses though. I do agree with the punishment though, if these companies don’t use it as a deterrent. cheating will never get better in online games.
 

InRainbows

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There is no need to defend him.

watch the videos in the first post. You wont defend him after you do.

Developers are very crystal clear about cheating. Don’t fucking do it.

......like I said before, if you believe he is in possession of aimbot and hasn’t once used it for personal gain you are giving this kid the benefit of doubt. Don’t. The act of making videos using an exploit makes cheaters seem normal and give the creators of aimbot credit. He absolutely shouldn’t do that and devs know this.

the way he explains how to use aimbot to get around their methods of checking is enough
 
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Z-Beat

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Another fantastic 'YouTube Apology' video to add to the long list of 'YouTube Apology' videos.
It's weird that this is such a thing


1) Ban him for a extensive period of time (not lifetime)
2) Society will judge him after the ban is lifted
3) If caught cheating again, ban for life
The responses given by people who got banned from Overwatch after being caught cheating make me feel like this wouldn't work.


 

TsuWave

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at 17 I had a decent grasp of right or wrong, cheating/not cheating.

he'll be aiight
 

Hyun Sai

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It's funny how 17 is considered old enough or not depending of whatever suits us.

Kid (lol) will be fine, it's not like he is going to jail or is losing the revenue stream necessary to his survival. Good luck on his journey to self enlightment.
 

nofriendo

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As usual, complete lack of empathy from some people here. So I take it none of you ever cheated or copied for an exam/project when you were 17 ? Now imagine something so stupid banned you for life from a possible career or job.

I sure did a lot of dumb shit when I was 17.

For the record I think a lifetime ban for aimbots is over the top regardless of what age you are.
 

Rezae

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Really have zero sympathy for him, and don’t understand how some people are rationalizing or defending. Yeah 17 can be a young and dumb learning period, but I’ve seen enough games get ruined by cheaters, and it doesn’t matter if they’re 17, 12, or 40 - the end result is the same and there really should be zero tolerance, especially if broadcasting it and normalizing it.
 

Raide

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As usual, complete lack of empathy from some people here. So I take it none of you ever cheated or copied for an exam/project when you were 17 ? Now imagine something so stupid banned you for life from a possible career or job.

I sure did a lot of dumb shit when I was 17.

For the record I think a lifetime ban for aimbots is over the top regardless of what age you are.
The fact he was profiting from his time while cheating is probably the reason why people are coming down hard on him. Some kid cheats at some game would never hit the headlines. Some kid cheats at Fortnite while raking in loads of cash for basically doing nothing is where the issue lies.
 

Hyun Sai

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As usual, complete lack of empathy from some people here. So I take it none of you ever cheated or copied for an exam/project when you were 17 ? Now imagine something so stupid banned you for life from a possible career or job.

I sure did a lot of dumb shit when I was 17.

For the record I think a lifetime ban for aimbots is over the top regardless of what age you are.
You realize the equivalent of what he did is basically teaching others to cheat and getting away with it on a mass media and making money from it ? The equivalent of that in your real life situation is even more severe, as for "only" cheating you can be expelled and suffer this :

"If you're expelled or dismissed from high school or college, it makes it more difficult to get into colleges and find work. College and job applications often ask if you were ever fired or expelled, and they may also require proof of your academic history. If you want to pursue a degree after being dismissed or expelled, you'll have to start over. You may also have to take classes at a community college to reestablish your academic integrity before larger colleges will accept you."

What he got is entirely fair considering what he's done.
 

Siggy-P

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This is the guy who was posting videos of himself using a mouse and keyboard hack on COD Mobile. Guy was always a cheat.
 

n00bs7ay3r

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Sad, but forgive my ignorance, why can’t he just make a new account?
Because word would get back to Epic and they would ban that account too.

It doesn't matter. The amount of sympathy he is garnering from his fanbase leads me to believe that Epic will end up reversing the decision and he will be back to making money soon.
 

Nepenthe

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I will never sympathize with anyone being banned from an FPS game for using an aimbot.
 

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As usual, complete lack of empathy from some people here. So I take it none of you ever cheated or copied for an exam/project when you were 17 ?
No, I didn't, because by that time I actually had a sense of morality.

Iesus Xristos, how many of you are so utterly devoid of moral fiber that you'll defend this? He knew the rules, he cheated, he got caught. No sympy. This isn't some injustice being perpetrated against him by the system.
 

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As usual, complete lack of empathy from some people here. So I take it none of you ever cheated or copied for an exam/project when you were 17 ? Now imagine something so stupid banned you for life from a possible career or job.

I sure did a lot of dumb shit when I was 17.

For the record I think a lifetime ban for aimbots is over the top regardless of what age you are.
The 17 year old is not the victim. He’s just facing consequences for what he did. The actual victims are the ones who had their games ruined by his aim toting and the aimbotting done by other players who saw his video. Their games were ruined and their time was wasted.

No, I never cheated or copied an exam/project in school. I took that shit seriously. Never stole from work either - this is basic shit.

Did I do stupid shit when I was around that age? Yes - I got banned from life from this website called Gaia Online because I had my browser automatically refresh pages to generate currency. It was against the rules and I knew it. I got permabanned anyway. Lost some valuable pixels in doing so. It was a deserved ban. I certainly didn’t feign innocence and go crying in public about it.

The aimbotter is not a victim. He’s learning consequences for his actions.
 

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Also he claims that he had no idea that he would get banned for cheating but if that is the case why did he take multiple precautions such as:

1. Playing on an alt account
2. Playing a few games legit on his alt account so as to not be instantly detected
3. Playing on his SPARE PC

He knew what he was doing was wrong and he did it anyway. Epic rightfully responded with a ban.
 

Onebadlion

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Dude just advertised the existence and effectiveness of aim-bots to his large following, many of whom may not have known they existed until now. Its right that Epic clamped down hard and demonstrated they won't tolerate cheating. That shit puts decent people off from playing the game.
 

astro

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The kid reportedly earned millions and lives at home with quite a wealthy family.

He's going to be fine.
 

Dizzy Ukulele

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Yet there are other "pro" streamer still closet hacking.. Competitive FPS gaming is disgusting.
The main thing I took from the original video is when he says the hack shows on his screen but not the stream and then claimed to not know why. I don’t know much about hacking but I could take a wild stab at why that would be.
 

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Damn, eh? Just like that.

Ah well, kid's probably going to find he has so much more time for other things now.
 

Raijinto

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He's absolutely old enough to know what he was doing was wrong. The punishment is not excessive either- arguing about mitigating circumstances and such is counterproductive in fighting against cheats- handing out temporary bans will not be strong enough to act as a deterrent. To be fair this probably won't either, but at least it shows a zero tolerance.
 

JustinH

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Tournament fans lurking in Fortnite threads right now:

This post makes me really happy for some reason lol.
As usual, complete lack of empathy from some people here. So I take it none of you ever cheated or copied for an exam/project when you were 17 ?
Wow.
No. Like seriously, no.

I can't help but not feel too bad for him. It's just a game. He can't play one game. As for it's his "career." I mean he's only 17.
I just see this as a lesson for the guy. You live with the consequences for the choices you make, and not being able to play a game is pretty light in the grand scheme of things (IMO).
 

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Within the first two minutes of the video that got him banned he clearly acknowledges aimbot = ban multiple times.

He knew.
I got the impression what he’s whining about is that he did not know the ban would be for a lifetime. That being said I really don’t feel sorry for him. Personally I think cheats like that totally deserve a lifetime ban. Especially as he was blatantly doing it and even showing it off.
 

nofriendo

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This post makes me really happy for some reason lol.

Wow.
No. Like seriously, no.

I can't help but not feel too bad for him. It's just a game. He can't play one game. As for it's his "career." I mean he's only 17.
I just see this as a lesson for the guy. You live with the consequences for the choices you make, and not being able to play a game is pretty light in the grand scheme of things (IMO).
There are plenty of people out there who do what he is doing as a job or career. Listen I am by no means saying he is the victim here. He did wrong and should get a ban. Lifetime ban and internet pile on though.....
 

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No, I didn't, because by that time I actually had a sense of morality.

Iesus Xristos, how many of you are so utterly devoid of moral fiber that you'll defend this? He knew the rules, he cheated, he got caught. No sympy. This isn't some injustice being perpetrated against him by the system.
Agreed. Fuck him. Plus, he openly admitted he would do it. This guy is a complete moron, 17 or not. I hope they uphold the lifetime ban. Its what he deserves.
 

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There are plenty of people out there who do what he is doing as a job or career. Listen I am by no means saying he is the victim here. He did wrong and should get a ban. Lifetime ban and internet pile on though.....
The reason he is getting the internet pile on is because he chose to make a video about it. He could have quietly accepted the consequence of his actions and moved on to making content using other games. Instead he tried to make an "apology" video that is little more than a thinly veiled attempt to garner public sympathy and induce public outcry against Epic in order to get his ban reversed so he can restore his revenue stream. Unfortunately I think his strategy will probably work and his ban will probably get reversed.
 

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I don't care if he can't play a game, I'm referring to the way this is spreading accross the internet like crazy.
Fair enough. But he has made himself a name on the internet and well, the internet loves discussing stuff they hear about. It is the nature of the beast. It’s going to happen. One of the dangers of being internet famous. Or really being famous at all (even before the internet really but the internet has given more people ability to voice their opinions on stories they hear about other people).
 

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As usual, complete lack of empathy from some people here. So I take it none of you ever cheated or copied for an exam/project when you were 17 ? Now imagine something so stupid banned you for life from a possible career or job.

I sure did a lot of dumb shit when I was 17.

For the record I think a lifetime ban for aimbots is over the top regardless of what age you are.
lol, get out of here with this nonsense.

kid was a pro, it’s the perfect punishment for using an aim it. No redemption, you’re done here kid.
 

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I just looked up his birthday. He turns 18 next Monday. Are people going to continue to beat the “he’s just a kid” drum? He learned a harsh life lesson just prior to entering adulthood. He’s not ending up in prison and he’s not going to have anything in his life ruined because of this. His streaming career will suffer, but this is what happens when you kill your golden goose. He’s still going to be hitting the reset button on his career ahead of 99.9% of his peers.
 

Jsee80

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He claims he just loves Fortnite so much and wishes he can "just play again" while he made an alt account to bypass a ban he knew would happen.

This guy can play Fortnite just fine with another alt AND cheat all he wants, the game is free. He is "crying" because he cant link his Youtube account with his new alt and continue making money with youtube videos.

"Apology" video doesnt even acknowledge the people that had the game spoiled for them while he cackles with his friend. Its all about him.
 

Tigress

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There are plenty of people out there who do what he is doing as a job or career. Listen I am by no means saying he is the victim here. He did wrong and should get a ban. Lifetime ban and internet pile on though.....
The lifetime ban is not overly harsh. He cheated. He even went out of his way (not even using an exploit but an outright hack) to cheat. Sure, you say it’s just a game... and I’ll point out the same thing, it’s just a game that he can’t play anymore. It’s not like they gave him a huge fine or put him in jail or tortured him. They removed his ability to play a game. Whether he made money at it is immaterial.... all that means is he should have had more motivation to be careful not to mess up his money maker. Not that epic should go lighter on him than they would on some one else just cause he made money off it.
 

InRainbows

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There are plenty of people out there who do what he is doing as a job or career. Listen I am by no means saying he is the victim here. He did wrong and should get a ban. Lifetime ban and internet pile on though.....
Deserves full ban because he is a cheater. Quit trying to say people who think he needs a full ban don’t have empathy. This isn’t cancer this isn’t Alzheimer’s it’s a fucking 17 year old millionaire cheater.

here are a couple good quotes


Dude just advertised the existence and effectiveness of aim-bots to his large following, many of whom may not have known they existed until now. Its right that Epic clamped down hard and demonstrated they won't tolerate cheating. That shit puts decent people off from playing the game.
Also he claims that he had no idea that he would get banned for cheating but if that is the case why did he take multiple precautions such as:

1. Playing on an alt account
2. Playing a few games legit on his alt account so as to not be instantly detected
3. Playing on his SPARE PC

He knew what he was doing was wrong and he did it anyway. Epic rightfully responded with a ban.
You realize the equivalent of what he did is basically teaching others to cheat and getting away with it on a mass media and making money from it ? The equivalent of that in your real life situation is even more severe, as for "only" cheating you can be expelled and suffer this :

"If you're expelled or dismissed from high school or college, it makes it more difficult to get into colleges and find work. College and job applications often ask if you were ever fired or expelled, and they may also require proof of your academic history. If you want to pursue a degree after being dismissed or expelled, you'll have to start over. You may also have to take classes at a community college to reestablish your academic integrity before larger colleges will accept you."

What he got is entirely fair considering what he's done.