Found a Mini DV tape hidden in the insulation in our basement [Up: Camcorder is WORKING, and PREMIERED] (Up The Band are Possibly KKK Sympathizers?)

What's on the tape?

  • Homemade Porno made by previous owners

  • Homemade Porno made by the teenage-to-20 something children of previous owners

  • Something illegal

  • Something innocuous

  • Don't Watch it, it's an invasion of privacy/not worth the potential grossness


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Fushichou187

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Nov 1, 2017
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So now we are all investigating some random tape and figuring out who some people are based on a tape with zero context on the pretext that they might have been KKK supporters back many years ago…?

What’s the end goal of this? Besides trying to mess with real people’s lives who might or might not have changed since their younger rock and days (assuming they actually were a racist bunch rather than edgelords).
I was absolutely an edgelord POS when I was a teen yet somehow I never once had an instance of rocking white supremacist iconography, nor did anyone I hung out with.

I absolutely acted and said pretty garbage and intolerant things however, and if video surfaced of 17yr old me acting that way well.. then that’s fine and fair game. It’d be mortifying, but I did do that shit. It’s also 1000% not the adult I became nor the values I continue to live my life by, so it would be equally easy to own it and say “yeah. 17 year old me was a garbage human being with some abhorrent views of X people.” Apologize for it, and move on. My job would not be in jeopardy. My life would not be ruined.

so... if it turns out that one or all of the band members get discovered, it seems like it would be VERY easy for them to say “yeah, I thought the symbol was cool when I was 16. I’m 32 now and obviously I’m embarrassed by how stupid I was then.”, and then if they’re truly someone who doesn’t align with that symbol, it seems like a pretty easy thing to prove.

But if any of those people in that video still adhere to a worldview that holds white supremacist iconography in high regard in 2021, that person absolutely deserves to have their life shattered.
 

Tochtli79

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Jun 27, 2019
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I hope the next twist is one of these kids making an Era account to explain this was years ago when they were idiot teenagers and all 3 are now active supporters of anti-racism organisations.
 

HiLife

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Oct 25, 2017
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So were these guys KKK sympathizers? The symbol in the upper left here looks like it could be the Blood Drop Cross:


Kind of hard to tell... this was the clearest picture of it I could get. There's a few seconds of a close-up earlier in the video but it's all blocky and hard to make out any additional detail.

I'm still trying to figure out what that graffiti logo says. I know there was some speculation earlier that it might be Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, but I dunno if that really fits their Metallica and maybe-KKK vibe.
Wholesome vibes have left the chat. The diabetic racists are here.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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So now we are all investigating some random tape and figuring out who some people are based on a tape with zero context on the pretext that they might have been KKK supporters back many years ago…?

What’s the end goal of this? Besides trying to mess with real people’s lives who might or might not have changed since their younger rock and days (assuming they actually were a racist bunch rather than edgelords).
Yeah we really should close this thread.
 

HylianSeven

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Oct 25, 2017
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Holy hell that's a twist I did not expect.

Attempting to out Nazis based on a shitty quality DV tape with a few seconds of footage is probably not a good idea though. Could easily mistake identity going purely off of this and possibly ruin an innocent person's life.
 
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AlteredBeast

AlteredBeast

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Oct 27, 2017
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Alright, folks.

Here's my idea moving forward:

1. Keep any and all tasteful photoshops coming. I have laughed long and hard about many of these excellent shops! I will be doing a contest for the best one with a gift card prize, stay tuned for that.

2. Let's put the kibosh on any further speculating about intentions and meanings behind the band's name, kkk connections, and obviously sleuthing anything about the actual people. Not worth it, folks! Don't ruin what has been a magical experience for all.

3. I'm getting the tape digitized next week and have pulled the property records for my house. I'm fairly certain I'll be able to locate the former owners or their son(s?). Once I do, and with clearer knowledge about the lyrics and songs they were singing, I'll just ask questions if they are willing to answer them. I'll be totally disarming in my normal way, so I see no reason why they wouldn't talk to me lol, unless they really are a part of some hate group or another.

I'll report back if I make connection with any of the former owners, and once I have the tape digitized, what the name of the band was if I can tell more clearly.

If anyone has any questions they would want me to theoretically ask, put them in here and I will take note of the best ones.
 

xero93

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Oct 25, 2017
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2. Let's put the kibosh on any further speculating about intentions and meanings behind the band's name, kkk connections, and obviously sleuthing anything about the actual people. Not worth it, folks! Don't ruin what has been a magical experience for all.
Agreed, was uncomfortable with how some people seemed to were giddy at the idea of doxxing these dumb kids. No guarantee they still prescribe to these beliefs, and whether they still do or don't, you can't trust everyone here to be tact about it

3. I'm getting the tape digitized next week and have pulled the property records for my house. I'm fairly certain I'll be able to locate the former owners or their son(s?). Once I do, and with clearer knowledge about the lyrics and songs they were singing, I'll just ask questions if they are willing to answer them. I'll be totally disarming in my normal way, so I see no reason why they wouldn't talk to me lol, unless they really are a part of some hate group or another.
Be careful with this though, it's very likely that kids in hate groups are in them because their parents are too. And they know where you live. Assuming they are KKK, they clearly wouldn't be rational people.
 

Sirhc

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Oct 27, 2017
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I would love for the digitizing to come back and not be anything hateful, if so and you somehow get in touch with them we might need to crowdfund a reunion concert.
 
May 26, 2018
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I mean, once you find out whose tape it is, maybe better just to say “hey I found your time capsule or whatever, would you like me to mail it to you?”

Like... don’t make it weird? Or weirder. This is already plenty weird. There seems nothing really left to do in this thread, and more like personal business now. I wouldn’t even digitize it. That’s for them to do.
 

Depths

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Oct 25, 2017
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Gotta say if someone called me about some recording I was in almost 20 years ago and started questioning me about things in the video it would be pretty weird. Not that I have vids of me with KKK/Nazi stuff it's just a weird idea.
 

Tappin Brews

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, I think its time to shit or get off the pot. Either we dox these KKK kids (which has been posted we shouldn't) or we don't. I think this is done. There is no investigating further without it going to far.
 

Sirhc

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah, I think its time to shit or get off the pot. Either we dox these KKK kids (which has been posted we shouldn't) or we don't. I think this is done. There is no investigating further without it going to far.
I mean...we can totally check out/enjoy their performance without doxxing people, it's not hard to not be shit.
 

Ashodin

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Oct 25, 2017
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Durham, NC
Alright, folks.

Here's my idea moving forward:

1. Keep any and all tasteful photoshops coming. I have laughed long and hard about many of these excellent shops! I will be doing a contest for the best one with a gift card prize, stay tuned for that.

2. Let's put the kibosh on any further speculating about intentions and meanings behind the band's name, kkk connections, and obviously sleuthing anything about the actual people. Not worth it, folks! Don't ruin what has been a magical experience for all.

3. I'm getting the tape digitized next week and have pulled the property records for my house. I'm fairly certain I'll be able to locate the former owners or their son(s?). Once I do, and with clearer knowledge about the lyrics and songs they were singing, I'll just ask questions if they are willing to answer them. I'll be totally disarming in my normal way, so I see no reason why they wouldn't talk to me lol, unless they really are a part of some hate group or another.

I'll report back if I make connection with any of the former owners, and once I have the tape digitized, what the name of the band was if I can tell more clearly.

If anyone has any questions they would want me to theoretically ask, put them in here and I will take note of the best ones.
Good follow up. I can't wait to see where this DV Tape Saga goes
 
May 26, 2018
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I mean...ee can totally check out/enjoy their performance without doxxing people, it's not hard to not be shit.
Honestly even that feels weird at this point. These are minors in the footage.

He’s made the discovery, it doesn’t seem illegal material, so it’s over. Get the tape to them or their family, that’s all I can consider ATM if I were AlteredBeast.
 

RedMercury

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Dec 24, 2017
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Welp, if that's how it is that's how it is, hope they don't turn out to be Nazis. If they were, I hope they changed and had consequences for what they did but the reality is most of them usually don't ever have to answer for it in any significant way. It's possible the Nazi symbol was hung up by their parents too, it's not like the kids own the house, maybe they are using music to rebel against those dumb beliefs
 

FormatCompatible

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Oct 25, 2017
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2. Let's put the kibosh on any further speculating about intentions and meanings behind the band's name, kkk connections, and obviously sleuthing anything about the actual people. Not worth it, folks! Don't ruin what has been a magical experience for all.
Agreed. Regardless of what I might think of someone that uses a hate symbol, we really, really should not be going around looking for the actual identity of these people and ending up doxxing them. Let them be.
 

Depths

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Oct 25, 2017
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"Hey man, I found this Mini DV tape in our house with footage of you and your friends doing a song 20 years ago and then I got it digitized. Also noticed there's like a KKK cross thing in there. What's that all about? Oh also a message board with 1000's of people on it is following this."
 
May 26, 2018
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"Hey man, I found this Mini DV tape in our house with footage of you and your friends doing a song 20 years ago and then I got it digitized. Also noticed there's like a KKK cross thing in there. What's that all about? Oh also a message board with 1000's of people on it is following this."
Yeah, don’t go any further than “looked like from around this time so I’m checking records to find the owner, this yours? It is? Cool. Would you like it shipped?”

And that’s it. Internet mystery phase done. By all rights this thread really shouldn’t go further. Probably now for us to let it go and for AlteredBeast to do what feels right.

Just my feelings.
 

TRCK

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Oct 25, 2017
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What did I miss?


EDIT: WTF, it went from like 10 to 100 real fast when I was sleeping.
 

Sirhc

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Oct 27, 2017
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Really. When it's obvious what the band name is and (presumably) it's found online. It just ends there?
I mean...yeah? It's really easy to just not look more into it. The images are out there already, cats out of the bag if people want to be assholes about it, doesn't mean we need to be those assholes.
 

Tappin Brews

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Oct 25, 2017
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I mean...yeah? It's really easy to just not look more into it. The images are out there already, cats out of the bag if people want to be assholes about it, doesn't mean we need to be those assholes.
And if they ARE (or were) a clearly white supremacist band people would be assholes for calling them out? Imagine if they were a nazi band and one of them was now in a position of power? Is this not a valid thing to address, one way or another? Shit or get off the pot. The mod's have, in my opinion, indicated it's time we get off the pot (which I think I'm ok with).
 

RedMercury

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Dec 24, 2017
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And if they ARE (or were) a clearly white supremacist band people would be assholes for calling them out? Imagine if they were a nazi band and one of them was now in a position of power? Is this not a valid thing to address, one way or another? Shit or get off the pot. The mod's have, in my opinion, indicated it's time we get off the pot (which I think I'm ok with).
Nah you are totally right, there is no let bygones be bygones when it comes to Nazi shit, it's absolutely valid so no worries there. I think people would just like some more confirmation either way, like the example I presented was what if that nazi symbol was something hung up by one of the parents and the kids didn't believe that stuff, that's a plausible thing. If it did come out this was some sort of WS band I don't think people would be like "eh it is what it is" or whatever
 
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