Fox News’ Charles Krauthammer says he is losing his cancer battle [UP: Passed Away]
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Saw that he passed away, exceptionally sorry for pain that brought him to his final moments. Cancer is a wretched end, no one should experience it, full stop. You have no idea what it does to the body of an individual and you have no concept of what it does to those surrounding that person until you experience it.. As I said before, I know this shit first hand, I wouldn't want anyone to experience it.
I'm glad this thread is finally given the same moderation as others. ERA has seemingly had a very straight forth policy on these types of threads. While I don't agree with Krauthammer's views or his political philosophy, I think there is a time/place for it. That time/place isn't in a thread discussing their terminal illness/death.
I wish his family/friends the best.
I'm glad this thread is finally given the same moderation as others. ERA has seemingly had a very straight forth policy on these types of threads. While I don't agree with Krauthammer's views or his political philosophy, I think there is a time/place for it. That time/place isn't in a thread discussing their terminal illness/death.
I wish his family/friends the best.
That wasn't what you asked. You asked if the entire institution was racist. Their staff can be replaced, and culture is likely to shift their outlook due to natural staff changes and an influx of younger folks. There is also a false equivalence between editors and racist contributors here. Consider the modern stance of "both sides" media. Krauthammer moved to what is effectively state run media and complained that the left had nothing but race to run on, despite having an ugly history of disparaging black people himself. Dog whistles for days.
I know you want to get into technicalities, but this is clear cut. You can't refer to a race of people as sub human drones and have it removed from your record. Your best argument is that someone let it get published in the first place.
People calling out others for "both sides" rhetoric is pretty dumb.
totalbiscuit was a genuine piece of shit but multiple mods laid down the law in his thread, saying that it was for well wishes and nothing more.
In my first post in this thread I said that a person's actions should not be glossed over in their death. That shouldn't extend to tapdancing on their grave but it's been made clear that there is a double standard and I think it's fair for people to be a little frustrated or confused by that.
totalbiscuit was a genuine piece of shit but multiple mods laid down the law in his thread, saying that it was for well wishes and nothing more.
In my first post in this thread I said that a person's actions should not be glossed over in their death. That shouldn't extend to tapdancing on their grave but it's been made clear that there is a double standard and I think it's fair for people to be a little frustrated or confused by that.
Could you explain the schism? The people getting banned certainly were not criticizing him for left wing stances. Do you mean gaming celeb vs media personality?
I agree and I think ERA needs to do better. Pick one. My views are pretty straight forward, I don't think disease/death threads are the time to walk on someones grave.
Part of getting into heaven is to "love thy neighbour". That means everybody.
.youre reaching. these institutions are respected for their long standing dedication to journalistic standards. To say that the New York Times, Washington Post, USA Today, Time, San Diego Union-Tribune didnt fact check is ridiculous.
Then heaven is gonna be really fucking lonely bro. You can name drop anyone of notoriety and you'll find beyond troublesome views, issues, etc.
So everyone and not just people whose view you agree with? Were doing this tone-policing in the XXXTentacion murder thread?
Well one day, Trump, his administration & the rest of the conservatives from congress will all have to answer to God (including evangelists that have worshiped Trump).
And I would certainly not want to be one of them.
Hi again. I don't think it is tone policing, my views have been stated on this issue a few times. Shall I say it again? I don't think disease/death threads are the place to dance on someones grave.
Your edit was made after I posted (or during) so I did not notice your scientific data argument. He literally referred to black people as biologically inferior. If you want me to explain to you how many studies have had racist tendencies then I don't know what to tell you. You initially argued to show us where he had argued in favor of eugenics. Do you believe that there were not flawed studies that people used to support eugenics? What do you think being called biologically inferior is based on "data" is, exactly?
It's nice to want things. But i don't believe in any of that. These people will just take what they want, enjoy life as much as they can at the expense of the masses and we'll all end up in the same dirt.
That's the sum of it. If i'm wrong, well that will be an experience.
EDIT: I didn't mean to be a dick to your beliefs but that's how it reads, isn't it? Apologies.
Oh so you can actually see my posts. What idiotic point are you attempting to make here?
How about you simply state your point, my profile isn't hidden, check away.
Irony.
Don't say anything mean don't say anything mean don't say anything mean...
No need to apologize, you haven't been a dick at all.
Everyone has their opinions.
So why weren't you in that thread tone-policing the folks talking about what he had done?
You're right. Carry on ArrogantBastard.
I had zero idea who he was, I didn't feel compelled to comment, surely you get that right? Its a discussion board, you don't comment on ever thread.
I have heard of Krauthammer and I have a personal connection with cancer. Why are you being so antagonistic?
See now this is just gas lighting. You are being exceptionally disingenuous.
The edit wasnt ment to trick you just clarification. I think my point is that the first thing you critisized Krauthammer for was his position for crack babies. It turnes out the scientific evidence that he used was similar to that used by a number of world class publications so unless you consider them all racist the most likely answer is that he based his opinion on the same "scientific data" as other well respected journalist of the time
So every white ass racist republican becomes a saint when they die? No wonder they run the country. And apparently there's never time for it, because in life people don't care/don't act against this people, and in death they are sanctified.
But hey, who cares about black people suffering, gay people suffering, women? They are just class b humans, right?
And for some posters here, somehow pointing out the shit this guy said is "dancing on their grave". Lol.
That would make some sort of sense to me if he did not go on to lambast the left for rightly addressing race inequality as a platform, on Fox News no less. If you make an error that egregious you should spend the rest of your life making up for it as a media personality or outlet, in my opinion. Nothing leads you to calling another race genetically inferior beyond racism. Nothing.
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But hey, who cares about black people suffering, gay people suffering, women? They are just class b humans, right?
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Im gonna need a quote that he was pro black,gay women suffering?
But hey, who cares about black people suffering, gay people suffering, women? They are just class b humans, right?
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Im gonna need a quote that he was pro black,gay women suffering?
youre moving the goal post, You specifically mentioned that he was responsible for the crack baby narrative. Lets start with that.
Edit: I already mentioned that prestigious institutions such as the NY Times used what was considered at the time concrete scientific studies to make the same argument
... Krauthammer penned an article citing some god awful study claiming that black crack babies made them an inferior race by birth. If your argument is that he did not write that study, but only supported it, then that falls within what I called "initial supporter."
You requested:
"So im kind of looking for quotes where he is for eugenics"
You have argued that he used scientific data to argue that a race is inferior. We have come full circle and I am done with you.
Clearly, that is what I said, they become a saint.
Help me out, on ERA, when someone has a life-threatening disease and/or they are dying. Is that or is it not the time to run their life thru the gauntlet? I was under the impression that it wasn't. I say this because I thought I understood that disease/death touches more than that individual. Does it mean you have to comment on every thread about someone dying, no of course not. I just don't get it, why do you need to roll into a thread so badly to dump on someone when they are dying. Why is that?
No
Why not? He's dead, all of us who are alive have to live with the bullshit he propagated. What better time to start dispelling it when they can't spew bullshit anymore? Okay, you don't have to advocate death to do that, but it shouldn't be swept under the rug.
I didn't intend on making that many posts before I ran into someone sympathetic with... that, to be fair. You can judge what I have said based on the discussion here.
Bad people aren’t well liked
Someone who tries to legitimize anti-black racism will not have a lot of fans among normal people
If people speaking ill of the dead when they went out of their way to harm a multitude of people while alive is unpleasant, then stay out of the thread or petition moderation to have the threads themselves banned
Someone who tries to legitimize anti-black racism will not have a lot of fans among normal people
If people speaking ill of the dead when they went out of their way to harm a multitude of people while alive is unpleasant, then stay out of the thread or petition moderation to have the threads themselves banned
Is it dumping on him just mentioning the stuff he stood for while he was alive?
Did i say i'm happy about this situation? No.
I just hate that we tend to give a pass to people just because they are suffering without realizing the amount of suffering they directly or indirectly promoted or cause while they were healthy, sentient and proud. I see depression, assaults, violence, death, racism, homophobia around me and i can't feel sorry for those who've intellectually helped to develop these thoughts on a nation, and on the world. Cancer can happen to anyone on earth, and that's an awful ending to anyone. However, maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't try to live causing suffering to others just because you are privileged enough to do so. And this goes to any figure that promotes this stuff.
No? I'm sorry, please point out my history of anti-black racism. Go ahead. That post was beyond flagrant.
I think the site needs to take a stand on it. There is a double standard that is occurring.