SAG thing? No background checks? If not and this was something deliberately added to a contract it's way worse.
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Fox pulls scene from 'The Predator' after director casts his pedophile friend in minor role
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"Our studio was not aware of Mr. Striegel's background when he was hired,"
Some smart people over there
Some smart people over there
Well, as far as I know, they did.
I've worked on a lot of tv shows and movies. They don't ask about any jail time you have done or if you are a sex offender (except productions of kids shows, that is.)
Fox is taking action from a PR perspective because it became public.
But they don't care if the prop guy is a registered sex offender (they won't even ask)
Not everyone believes in second chances for certain crimes. Munn's reaction is one of that many would have in this situation. So I don't think it's unreasonable that if you're going to have someone working opposite of a convicted sex offender that you'd actually tell them beforehand to make sure that they weren't going to take issue with it.
I feel like people in Hollywood, despite progress from #metoo, can get blacklisted really easily if they're seen as trying to stir the pot.
I dunno... These posts raise good points:
Gamers saw her as an outsider because she was a woman, then they saw her as a traitor when she became a movie star.
Gamers are trash.
Your employer changes with each production company. And no, most of them do not check about criminal histories.
As I said earlier, the only ones that do are Disney, and I think Nickelodeon, and only when the show is teen/kid oriented. And only then for the sex offender charge, they don't care about other felonies.
Legal and ethical up and ups are different, but you're right. I wasn't very clear with my post. It only seems fair to inform your actors, esp when your movie has (had?) at least one child actor.
indeed, being honest and open about it early would of been the best approach
I'd have mixed feelings about any person that convicted of a horrible crime working with me but it's like at some point society either has to just throw them under the bus or let them make a living.
I love Shane Black but there's a scene in The Nice Guys that I found really unsettling and this development is making me feel really weird about it all over again.
The scene at the house party where the 10/12 year old daughter talks to some 'party girls' while a porno plays in the background.
I felt somewhat surprised, since he seemed like a nice guy. Given the nature of the job, though, he was out of there without his feet touching the ground.
Yes but how funny will it be when they cast Christopher Plummer as Weasel and act like nothing's wrong!
DP: Jeez man, you look like shit!
CP as Weasel: Stress of the job man!
Don't give second chances to predators, that just creates more victims.
I always wondered why Black didn't do too much after Lethal Weapon hit big until Iron Man 3, but I'm starting to think it was more than just drugs n parties and more he would just go rogue on stuff
Can imagine Munn was 2000% not stoked about finding that out
Can imagine Munn was 2000% not stoked about finding that out
Boo hoo some dude couldn't appear on the big screen. Can you hear it? Yes! That's the smallest violin in the world playing!
For someone who actively sought to rape little girls he got off easy. Once you're convicted, it's only fair if people don't want to act in a movie with you.
Also the fact that this got out gives me an indicator that Fox is probably not gonna bother working with Black again and they took Munn's side
User Banned (Permanent): Justifying pedophilia, comparing pedophiles to homosexuals.
I really don't get the Witch Hunt in the States against pedophiles. If they serve their punishment and are being prevented to work with children and aren't allowed near schools, then that's enough. Being placed on a public watch list and prevented from doing ANY work is insane. It was a scene with an adult woman. Let them have a chance in society.
I'm not saying pedophilic behaviour is fine, but people who suffer from it can't help it, it's an attraction. Just like you ca force a gay man to stop fancying other men. Pedophiles shouldn't be exiled from society, they need to be HELPED by society so they can have a life and kids aren't hurt in the meantime. Stop acting like they are not human or will also rape a mature woman out of nowhere.
I'm not saying pedophilic behaviour is fine, but people who suffer from it can't help it, it's an attraction. Just like you ca force a gay man to stop fancying other men. Pedophiles shouldn't be exiled from society, they need to be HELPED by society so they can have a life and kids aren't hurt in the meantime. Stop acting like they are not human or will also rape a mature woman out of nowhere.
That's fair.
Only if the production involves kids/teens (and only because the production might be held liable if something bad happened)
But, I don't think adult actors or crew or anyone should have the right to know everyone's legal histories.
And I don't agree with the Shane Black hate going on here...he wasn't obligated to tell anyone which employees have felonies. It's really not the policy. If it was a production that screened everyone for hire, sure. But it wasn't.
Welcome to my shit list, Shane. It's always growing.
Awful garbage shit right here. They aren't human, they're vile and don't deserve redemption. Also, a big "go fuck yourself" for comparing pedophilia to homosexuality. Easily one of the worst posts I have ever seen on here.
I'd be surprised since you don't expect to learn that about a person. However, it's really none of my business.
Does he have to inform all future employers about his criminal past? I don't know how it works over there. If not I don't see why he or anybody who knows about his past should have to inform anybody.
Hey. Maybe don't compare pedophila and homosexuality together. It's a bad look.
Surprised so many here are missing the context of a convicted sex offender playing a character who harrasses a woman.
Just because we are saying the pedophiles shouldn't get a job in movies doesnt mean they shouldn't get jobs. Do you people arguing this also believe wife beaters deserve a shot in the nfl?
Nah. Black shouldn't have tried sneaking this one through. Lots of people don't want to work around sex offenders. Especially ones that solicit from minors. What if there were kids around that set,
This is exactly why they have to register. So people know where they live and can make informed decisions from there.
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no one is saying they can't work jobs when they're out of prison. context matters
Holy fucking shit this post
We have a pedo defense force apparently
We certainly can't compare it to heterosexual attraction now can we?
Yes, yes he did and it was amazingly stupid.
I doubt the person cares, and even if he did, the damage is done.
The peadophile in question was not complelled to try and prey on that 14 year old girl. It's not just an uncontrollable attraction at all, he actively tried to rape a kid.
Fuck him.
And don't compare this to LGBT. It's not the same. FFS.
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and not just any kid
it was a relative of his. a 14 year old girl he met at a family gathering. he also groped her multiple times
You can't see why a list of people grooming and luring teenage girls into an illegal and completely sick relationship should exist? This isn't stealing a candy bar from a store, it takes a truly dangerous mind to pursue something like that, to be willing to seek after and manipulate and molest a *child*.