From "Birth of a Nation" to "Black Panther": This is why they mad

Oct 31, 2017
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I often muse that if I did a TED talk it would be on the power of mass media and how "it's just a movie" purposefully ignores that ability of mass media to communicate ideas and mis/inform and influence large groups of people. Chances are, if you're american, you watched Bill Nye the Science Guy as a kid; it taught science to us a kids in a fun way that everyone enjoyed watching. It was such a powerful piece of programming to get us to learn, much like Sesame Street for even younger children.

Now time for some film history. 1915's epic "The Birth of a Nation" is the father of modern film techniques. The film innovated the language of cinema in many ways. The Flashback was invented with this film. It was the first film with an original score created specifically for the movie. It was the first film to use hundreds of extras for scenes. First to use nighttime photography. The Close up and how it's used relative to other camera shots such as long shots was codified with this film. It's a significant film in so many ways. Really, the first epic action film, without question.

The thing about this benchmark film, is the story. The KKK are the heroes and black people are not really depicted as people. The ranks of the KKK soared thanks to the film, audiences took it to heart. It was most certainly not "just a movie" to the millions that joined the brutal terrorist organization. It's message was clear, to them.



Now here we are in 2018. Marvel's Black Panther is going to release to audiences around the country tomorrow and people of all ages and backgrounds are excited for what's already become a historically and most likely esthetically significant film, but some people aren't excited and claim "it's just a film" or "it's not the first black superhero" and the only reason I can think these people are so invested in downplaying the significance of Black Panther is in it's downright revolutionary depictions of black people.

Black Panther has a mostly black cast but with a huge blockbuster budget, which is unheard of before now. Black Panther features African characters as the primary protagonists and heroes. The writer/director is a black man. This film is the latest in a collection of films that have been telling a overarching narrative, so it'll be harder to ignore than if this wasn't a Marvel Studios production; millions will watch this film that otherwise wouldn't have if it wasn't a Marvel Superhero.



Eh, this is basically a first draft of the "what if?" I did a TED Talk that speaks to the power of media. I just wanted to inform non-film students of the history of the art form and it's power to communicate.

Before all these assholes started losing their minds that people are excited for this important film, the counterpoint to Birth of a Nation propelling KKK membership is when another superhero, Superman fought the KKK on his radio program which dwindled the membership of the terrorist group.

Basically, mass media and especially film are some of the most potent tools to educate or influence. So at least don't be that asshole saying "it's just a movie", especially when said movie communicates a message much greater than the movie itself

 
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Mammoth Jones

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Was just saying the same shit in a different thread. Word. Movies are a society's imagination. It's nice to be imagined as something other than subservient or a buffoon. If this makes you uncomfortable perhaps you should be asking yourself why instead of just reacting on your guts.

People bitched and said "every year another slave movie, ugh" now Black Panther too much? Fragility indeed.
 

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I never watch movies in theaters, but I'm itching to see this. It just feels important to me. Will definitely wear a dashiki.
Same. The only movies I've seen in theaters the last few years have been the Star Wars releases. Bought a ticket to see this on Friday, though! Feels dumb to say this about a Marvel super hero movie, but it definitely feels like an important moment in American history.
 
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...always there to make sure the main character finds their way.
Ugh, Finn literally proved to be Rey's lightsaber carrier, too. Fuck the black guy having his own hero's journey. Man, I can't wait until Friday.


thanks, I kinda rushed through it but hope the point was sufficiently made. I just can't stop thinking of the deep contrasts between the films and their historical significance
 

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the only reason I can think these people are so invested in downplaying the significance of Black Panther is it's stark contrast to the first action film Birth of a Nation
I agree with your post, but i was confused by that sentence. Could you say it in a different way, maybe? I ask because i don’t think the majority of folks downplaying BP have seen / heard of Birth of a Nation.
 

Creatchee

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I agree with your post, but i was confused by that sentence. Could you say it in a different way, maybe? I ask because i don’t think the majority of folks downplaying BP have seen / heard of Birth of a Nation.
I'm in the same boat as you. I don't think that hateful people need to contrast Black Panther to Birth of a Nation as an action movie in order to get their jimmies russled. The mere fact that a Black-directed big budget blockbuster with a mostly Black cast that is presented as royalty and high society and (above all) the main hero instead of in a negative, supporting, or troped to hell capacity is enough to russle them up to an alarming level.
 

MilkBeard

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Great post, and I agree. Movies like this are not "just movies." They represent something for people and influence them.
And I'm excited to see Black Panther.

Ugh, Finn literally proved to be Rey's lightsaber carrier, too. Fuck the black guy having his own hero's journey. Man, I can't wait until Friday.
Yeah, I was also disappointed with how they handled Finn.
 

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I think Gay Marriage would never be legal if it wasn't for the influence of media. It matters.

The social issues tackled by Marvel back in the day seem more impressive now to me than ever. And now look how far it's got?

It's a big deal man.