Same here. I'm really curious to find out what that's all about, like if that guy just decided to make clothes out of someone or if it's an important part of the lore and there's a significant reason he is wearing someone like a robe.
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Here's hoping that the valkyrie lady is a boss and not just an NPC. I've grown to like her design quite a bit lol
This is super dope, thanks for sharing!
Edit: I'd totally buy and wear that jacket Sekiro is wearing (minus the fur)
^ phantom butterfly looking great too!!
Im curious: what is it that makes you want to fight cool looking enemies over befriending them? I too love the design but I dont really mind if I fight her or if she's just an NPC.
Is it because bosses get more of a spotlight? is it because you get to interact with them in a more interesting way than just talking? Is it because you get to see them animate more?...?
I love the designs for many of their npcs like the sculptor or ludleth but I've never felt this way. Did you also want to fight them? Or maybe not these specific ones because they dont look like actual fighters that'd stand a chance whereas the valkyrie does...?? Help me understand
Also considering it's the main piece of artwork they used to represent the core theme of "ambition of mankind" I'd say it must be pretty important 👀
I've been thinking for a while that it seems we'll encounter various notable kingdoms in the game. This is as opposed to ds1-2-3 where you'd have one main kingdom (anorlondo/drangleic/lothric) that's the focus of the game and then smaller surrounding factions.
The reason why I think that's the case is because we see some very distinct design elements in the characters that might be used to represent different armies(?)
Additionally, this would fit nicely with both GRRMs style and with the original leak that talked about the player visiting different kingdoms.
Interesting how its not the first time someone mention this exact thing (or maybe it was u with another avatar :P I'll keep your name in mind for the future)
Im curious: what is it that makes you want to fight cool looking enemies over befriending them? I too love the design but I dont really mind if I fight her or if she's just an NPC.
Is it because bosses get more of a spotlight? is it because you get to interact with them in a more interesting way than just talking? Is it because you get to see them animate more?...?
I love the designs for many of their npcs like the sculptor or ludleth but I've never felt this way. Did you also want to fight them? Or maybe not these specific ones because they dont look like actual fighters that'd stand a chance whereas the valkyrie does...?? Help me understand
I mean considering how it's one of the most unique aspects of the designs I'd expect it to have some significant lore reason. I cant think of any case where From does a really out there design just for the shake of doing it without any story behind.
Also considering it's the main piece of artwork they used to represent the core theme of "ambition of mankind" I'd say it must be pretty important 👀
I've been thinking for a while that it seems we'll encounter various notable kingdoms in the game. This is as opposed to ds1-2-3 where you'd have one main kingdom (anorlondo/drangleic/lothric) that's the focus of the game and then smaller surrounding factions.
The reason why I think that's the case is because we see some very distinct design elements in the characters that might be used to represent different armies(?)
- we have two characters with long red hair
- multiple knights with winged helmets (its not only the valkyrie but also the fallen warriors by the side of the giant)
- the spear knight having a fish motifs. The giant being stabbed by multiple spears so they are common in the army of the other knight
Additionally, this would fit nicely with both GRRMs style and with the original leak that talked about the player visiting different kingdoms.
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Play both really. Start with 1 then go for 2. In 1 you only play as Raiko but in 2 there are multiple characters to choose. In both there are destructible environments and they both contain that from soft lore fare.
That all actually sounds very plausible and I think would make for some good sidequests
All of the above, actually. There's also the musical aspect as well. Bosses with cool designs also tend to get good boss themes, imo. There's also the fact that we usually fight the figures shown in From's cinematics, so it could be a similar situation here. Also, all this kingdom talk does remind of demons souls, even though we don't really fight most of the leaders of their respective lands
Mate , you clearly have no idea of which kind of desperation level we have reached 😂 I speak for myself , but I am sure I am not the only one here in this kind of state. We are people who refresh this page 10 times per day , who rewatched the same trailer in loop and have read your posts 20 - 30 times to grab any single hint and to put a smile on our face to think what are we going to experience one day.
So just be sure that any wall of text related to Elden Ring you gift us is something of value for us , no matter if it is not written as a poetry . Be sure I will read it as the most passionate book I ever read in my life as I have done with your previous posts ;)
Anyway take your time , I am already happy that you have not discarded completely the idea and you are working on it !
OMG MAY 3 ELDEN RING SHADOW DROP CONFIRMED
Btw, it's always a bless to see Omni come here and drop some tidbits here and there, even with real life duties which are overwhelming him. Thank you a lot, bud.
At the same time... I know it's unpleasant to say this now and there, but the "game is still in active development and a lot of things aren't finalized" part and the complete absence of gameplay/screenshots/artworks as of today lends me to think there is still a lot to wait. At this point a 2021 release is almost certain, imho.
Well , I believe games like souls are in active development and things are not finalized even 2-3 months before release, so that means nothing in my opinion. Game of course is not releasing this spring so it is obvious that it is still in active development. I think there is a chance of release date in October / November 2020 . If next trailer is released at the Xbox event in april / may they will have 6 months of full marketing campaign.
Im willing to wait if its Next Gen only
Im ready for the leap and have plenty to play in the meantime
Im ready for the leap and have plenty to play in the meantime
Omni
How guarded are the details regarding potential Multiplayer
Are they considering changing things up or doing what they have done in the past?
How guarded are the details regarding potential Multiplayer
Are they considering changing things up or doing what they have done in the past?
MP is in but truth be told I'm not really an MP player so I haven't really bothered to concern myself with the specifics of it.
Co Op is so fun tho!!!
Glad to hear its at least in and Ill have excited for details even if they just do the same ol password matckmaking
Been replaying DS3 with friends and forgot how much of a blast the game is during co op
I really enjoy random invasions and trolling others but I never did a co-op run until recently, when I played through bb with a friend
One thing that needs to be changed is that the summoned goes back to their world once the boss is defeated. Its a bit annoying that you have to summon for every other encounter
Yeah would love to see Co Op iterated on
We worked around its many limitations in DS3 of which there are several. Many zones don't allow summoning at all, some zones only let you summon one ally without dried fingers, etc...
I get that Co-Op served specific design purposes and they did do several quality of life updates for DS3 and BB that made things a lot easier but I am with you
Seeing it iterated further would be awesome
I just had the image of a group of co-op players going through the game without having to disband, getting ambushed by a group of invaders in a forest.
I'm jonesing for some multiplayer deets!
I'm jonesing for some multiplayer deets!
Still cant figure out what this was about
Maybe its related to speedrunning? with a fully open world, speeedruns are bound to be crazier than what we are used to
maybe the part about putting up silly videos has to do with the way the new AI interacts with the player?
Or maybe im just reading too much into it
(Lurker coming out the shadows....) My thirst has been quenched. Thanks, Omni. Just know you made my day a bit better.
Where do we even begin!
People do so many hilarious things in these games
Still waiting for any cryptic combat info, if it is forthcoming.
Im hoping to see in ER:
. Character skills progression; something like Sekiro where you could get various special abilities that are yours and not tied to any particular equipment.
. A better risk/reward system for counters and removing backstabs altogether.
. A better magic system and better magic all around.
Im hoping to see in ER:
. Character skills progression; something like Sekiro where you could get various special abilities that are yours and not tied to any particular equipment.
. A better risk/reward system for counters and removing backstabs altogether.
. A better magic system and better magic all around.
The only Souls games where I finished my replay playthroughs were Bloodborne and Dark Souls 1. The platinum trophy held me over in Bloodborne and the shock of losing my save file after finishing Dark Souls 1 made me rush through the entire game again right after beating Gwynn for the first time (not fighting him the second time).
I don't want to count how many abandoned characters I've accumulated across all of the Souls games...
That's why I love coop so much! I must've played through Dark Souls 3 the most simply because of my friends wanting someone to accompany them on their journey. I couldn't care less about PVP but I hope Elden Ring coop will offer me an incentive to replay the game again and again (...as long as any of my friends will follow through on the whole game)
I don't want to count how many abandoned characters I've accumulated across all of the Souls games...
That's why I love coop so much! I must've played through Dark Souls 3 the most simply because of my friends wanting someone to accompany them on their journey. I couldn't care less about PVP but I hope Elden Ring coop will offer me an incentive to replay the game again and again (...as long as any of my friends will follow through on the whole game)
I know they won't use Sekiro as a template for traversal, but I really hope there are tangible improvements to it, and I mean that apart from the horse. I don't need even a jump button (which would be nice anyway) but some sort of vault/climb/context jumping button for pre planned platforming and verticality at small scale rather than just stairs stairs falls elevators stairs.
And I think the combat and traversal will both reflect the higher/new fantasy in that regard; faster and flashier gameplay but even still with armor and huge as fuck weapons, maybe if your stats allow it. Less weighty and (even less) realistic maybe but after Sekiro's animations who cares, this is a different world, new and less constricted, they can do whatever that looks cool and makes sense in its lore. Maybe not swimming in armor or probably at all, as that would be too much, and probably still subject to stats for fat rolling or poise.
And retaining some of the mechanics of Sekiro's stealth to substitute the backstab would be cool too, what with roaming enemies and varied approaches to a same place and strategies and all. This has to be a thing. Would be cool with new magics too maybe for partial invisibility and dealing with crit chances or something like DnD hold person that needs a stealthy long cast.
Ahhh I was supposed to not come by this thread until new info lol.
Btw thanks for confirming a couple things Omni like day and night and some kind of weather and that last gameplay related post overall. Just knowing that each area can look different depending on circumstances is good to hear, even if it's just aesthetic. For me these games are more and more about atmosphere as that makes exploration more engaging. I just hope loot stays the same as souls because exploring for the sake of getting whatever I can get from monsters too becomes old very fast (please don't be Diablolike, one Nioh is enough).
Oh and also how I wish they left stamina based combat behind. I really hope they find/invent some other system to keep you from mindlessly attacking this time, as Sekiro did with parry and posture. At least and linking back to my first/second paragraph, make the stamina system more forgiving and add something new on top of it. I know it will mostly be souls again but I think it deserves (and we) some spin on it.
And I think the combat and traversal will both reflect the higher/new fantasy in that regard; faster and flashier gameplay but even still with armor and huge as fuck weapons, maybe if your stats allow it. Less weighty and (even less) realistic maybe but after Sekiro's animations who cares, this is a different world, new and less constricted, they can do whatever that looks cool and makes sense in its lore. Maybe not swimming in armor or probably at all, as that would be too much, and probably still subject to stats for fat rolling or poise.
And retaining some of the mechanics of Sekiro's stealth to substitute the backstab would be cool too, what with roaming enemies and varied approaches to a same place and strategies and all. This has to be a thing. Would be cool with new magics too maybe for partial invisibility and dealing with crit chances or something like DnD hold person that needs a stealthy long cast.
Ahhh I was supposed to not come by this thread until new info lol.
Btw thanks for confirming a couple things Omni like day and night and some kind of weather and that last gameplay related post overall. Just knowing that each area can look different depending on circumstances is good to hear, even if it's just aesthetic. For me these games are more and more about atmosphere as that makes exploration more engaging. I just hope loot stays the same as souls because exploring for the sake of getting whatever I can get from monsters too becomes old very fast (please don't be Diablolike, one Nioh is enough).
Oh and also how I wish they left stamina based combat behind. I really hope they find/invent some other system to keep you from mindlessly attacking this time, as Sekiro did with parry and posture. At least and linking back to my first/second paragraph, make the stamina system more forgiving and add something new on top of it. I know it will mostly be souls again but I think it deserves (and we) some spin on it.
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Never played nioh but I've looked into it and i really like the way they dealt with stamina
Basically you are still limited by it, but with some good timing you can perform a combination of moves that will give you back the stamina you just used.
i think its great because it adds an extra layer of complexity that rewards the more skilled players with unlimited stamina while also making the moment to moment combat more interesting, as you now need to keep track on another element on top of your enemy.
The game expects you to use it so it doesnt break or turn into easy mode when you master it but it's also not forced so new players dont need to focus on it if they still need to improve on the basics of combat
In a way its similar to bloodborne's recovery system. Risk/reward is involved but you have a change of gaining some health (in this case stamina) back
In no way I want From to copy another game's system. I just used it as an example of other already existing systems that make use of stamina but its not as rigid as souls
Oh ok, makes sense. Yet, Nioh is still purely stamina based and you get often very limited by it on bosses, and it ends up being a management game of attaching and recovering as fast as possible so you have to endure less time. For Elden Ring what I'd like is precisely the opposite of complicating the stamina mechanics anyway, even if it trivializes the combat on first examination.
I think From could, and should, find the next big thing for a simple yet deep and technical combat system. Well they already did with Sekiro (I like that game too much) but that doesn't exactly translate to a medieval fantasy rpg.
Anyway I'm sure the game will end up the same (as souls) in this regard.
Found this piece of art on ArtStation and it fed my imagination a bit, the artist named it ''Don't worry mom i'll find dad!''.
I don't know, just though this boy would be a cool NPC for Elden Ring, traveling with his pet in search of his father, and maybe at the end of his questline you would get the Moonlight Greatsword. And it made me think of another thing... are we going to have other types of friendly/inoffensive animals/creatures just chilling on the world? Or will it be just our mount/horse? Anyways, it's amazing how there's a bunch of amazing art out there and how they can spark the imagination and make me day dream about the possibilities of Elden Ring's world.
I don't know, just though this boy would be a cool NPC for Elden Ring, traveling with his pet in search of his father, and maybe at the end of his questline you would get the Moonlight Greatsword. And it made me think of another thing... are we going to have other types of friendly/inoffensive animals/creatures just chilling on the world? Or will it be just our mount/horse? Anyways, it's amazing how there's a bunch of amazing art out there and how they can spark the imagination and make me day dream about the possibilities of Elden Ring's world.
...yes? This is a bit of an odd question. The past games are already at the point of "big corridors" for the map. So if it was just a direct continuation of that design then I don't think From would bother adding mounts if they didn't feel that they were either necessary or at the very least, added something meaningful. But I don't personally know of many (if any) games like the ones you're reffering to so I'm not really sure by what you're definition of "vast enough" is. But beyond just point A to B traversal a mount will be valuable in quickly avoiding or escaping danger.
But there will be open sections as well as more "corridor-like sections" like past games.
great game, my favourite of the series, but the Monumental really had the worst acting ever - the actual definition of phoned in
reminds me of Patrick Stewart in Castlevania, he was really poor in that
Omni do you think this new game is really bigger in scope compared to their others or just a bit larger in map ? I mean , are we going to expect a game that takes the usual 20/30 hours to complete or are we talking of a 50 / 100 hours game ?
Even if you said ER open world has nothing to do with games like skyrim or The witcher 3 , do you think the scope of this game is similar to them or is " just " a larger Dark souls?
I hope for this game to be THE next fantasy masterpiece like it was Skyrim and TW3 after it . Maybe I am just exaggerating ;)
Yes indeed
Its a shame the new lance mcdonald vid isnt that substantial if you already knew about the cut voice lines from the minister (which were datamined back in 2018)
its basically a restored npc (which is still a TON of work but not that interesting as I already knew what he had to say)
I wish they'd dig deeper into the cut ds3 area named God's Grave. I thought he wasnt doing a video on it because there wasnt that much to it but considering how little new content we got in this video i'd be happy if they just released some footage of the mesh collision of that area
I...wouldnt count on it?
From usually has players very grounded when compared to the rest of the world. Giving the players some kind of undead horse (or any other mount that's very out there) is taking a step in the power fantasy aspect of things, which From doesnt really do.
They dont want you to feel like an unique hero but as just another lowly knight
I guess they'd give you weird mounts if these were as common as something like hollowing is in dark souls...but I dont really see that happening
Its silly to expect something on the scale of tw3 or skyrim but also this is clearly bigger than past titles
I mean it has already been confirmed by them in interviews but its also clear in the omnipost that this is a way more ambitious project
Take into account the developement time also. We know ER started full dev in early 2017 but the game already existed in some capacity in 2016 as part of the "3 games deal". There's a big chance this releases in 2021 after close to 5 years of developement.
darksiders 2, some areas of the mmo terra, and most of the anime style eastern mmos.
Twilight princess, had a lot of fields connected by corridors. those field themselves were not that vast either as you would come in contact with their edges a lot.
games like dragons dogma, nier tomatos, and SOTC for example feel large enough as you dont really come in contact with the edges of the map, or at least you dont really feel it.
basically, do these vast open field miyazaki talked about, feel vast and open or can you constantly see that obvious "ground elevation or whatever else" that signals the end of the map.
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I don't have an estimate for playtime but ultimately for any game your playtime is going to depend on your skill level and how much content you decide to engage with which is really the best I answer I can give you. I can't compare it to W3 or Skyrim as a lot of time spent in those games is spent in instances of many hours of dialogue and or cutscenes, of which there is obviously comparatively very little in From games.
You're comparing apples to oranges. They may all be medieval ARPG games but they're constructed so differently that there's nothing worthwhile to be gleamed from comparing them.
And in general questions like this I can't really give a satisfying answer. Youre just going to have to be patient and let From talk about it themselves. I'm not a marketing guy and I'm not sitting at home with a book full of every exact final detail of the game (nor is anyone else as the game is unfinished and as Lance's videos have shown, lots of things are changing throughout development all the time).
Well, I had already made the comparison to SOTC if that matters.
I was thinking of more "earthly" creatures that aren't horses (so, nothing supernatural or magical, just fictional animals seeing as this is a new universe), but yeah, you have a good point, the player is usually as normal as it gets in comparison to enemies and the locales.
I've been exhausted of medieval fantasy for the longest, but honestly? I'm so incredibly ready for this, especially with how unique and horror-oriented From can get. My recent reread of Berserk might have something to do with it, as well as speedruns of Dark Souls I've been watching lately.
I'm already imagining long fields of grass leading to a meticulously designed castle and man.
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