I expect "Mods" on a UWP title to be similar to the Bethesda Creation Club shit Vs Real Fallout/Skyrim mods
See, the great thing about W32 is that you don't need to wait for someone else to add officially sanctioned support for mods. You can just go right ahead and modify that executable yourself.
It's not like Nexus but it isn't as restricted as Creation Club either, it's like Steam Workshop. According to job listings, developers can easily enable "Xbox Live mod support for any Windows 10 and/or Xbox One game they publish".Oh congrats. They want to support one of the fundamental parts of PC gaming.
I bet it's something around like creation club stuff. Nothing like Nexus.
I am talking about the stupid comments about the shill talk. You know maybe he honestly likes uwp. He can. Doesnt make him a shill right away. Its stupid.He's talking about the store it self there, in the tweets in this thread, he walks about UWP, the api.
It's not like Nexus but it isn't as restricted as Creation Club either, it's like Steam Workshop. According to job listings, developers can easily enable "Xbox Live mod support for any Windows 10 and/or Xbox One game they publish".
It's not going to happen overnight, but Win32 is going away and there is nothing you can do about it. Windows 10 S already set this in motion, most people emailing and Wording on their laptops or whatever will just be ignorant towards the issue and won't get the free Win32 unlock - which is there to ensure MS looks like the good guys here. Then app devs will have to make UWP to reach everybody again. Games will probably take a while longer but it's happening anyway.
Childish behaviour. There are other ways to disagree.
Maybe but it doesn't make it any less true you sanctimonious tool.
Maybe but it doesn't make it any less true you sanctimonious tool.
It's not going to happen overnight, but Win32 is going away and there is nothing you can do about it. Windows 10 S already set this in motion, most people emailing and Wording on their laptops or whatever will just be ignorant towards the issue and won't get the free Win32 unlock - which is there to ensure MS looks like the good guys here. Then app devs will have to make UWP to reach everybody again. Games will probably take a while longer but it's happening anyway.
Nah he thinks the Store sucks.It only took half a day for him to go from "UWP is half-decent" to "UWP is better than Win32."
That makes it the worst part.Nah he thinks the Store sucks.
He likes UWP, tho.
There is a big difference.
That makes it the worst part.
The primary reason the windows store sucks is UWP. All the other bullshit broken stuff in the store is secondary.
This would be a tough sell for me because it exists on GOG, but if it weren't I'd gladly purchase it on the windows store primarily because I refuse to touch Steam.
You won't have to worry that as it will be shut down by late 2018/early 2019.
Wait so he likes windows store but dislikes UWP?
You sound upset.
Wait so he likes windows store but dislikes UWP?
He is still half wrong.
You seem upset.
Does it bother you that the MS Store is growing?
of course I am. it's the worst thing that could happen to PC gamingYou sound upset.
Does it bother you that the MS Store is growing?
No. As i said he dislikes the store, but likes UWP
I talked about your statement. The opposite is true.
The Store has issues, but UWP is not one of them.
Certainly not the main.
It does some things better than Win32UWP is still not feature parity with Win32 and by design will never be (it also never preventing the one thing it was supposed to, hacking)
It will always be inferior. I don't give a shit about an app being able to seamlessly switch monitors lmao
It does some things better than Win32
It does some things worse than Win32
It does some things just different than Win32
Maybe that is your stance but 99% of the world does not give a shit if an app is UWP or Win32.
They just want it to work well for what it is supposed to do.
And that is the reason why the Windows 10 Store has issues and UWP is not the reason for those.
But maybe i missed all those complaints about Sea of Thieves being not a Win32 application and that being the big issue.
Mods...
UWP can support mods.
Many people play old games because of BC.
Windows 10 will be the last OS until some major shift in computing happens. So why wouldn't you be able to play those games in 5 or 10 years? Or even 15.
Most people play new games. They don't care about old games and mods.
If that what determines for you being inferior or not, fine. But as i saidy most people don't give a fuck about that stuff.
But they do if you can't download a game properly. If you have login problems or if a store is missing a good search function and other basic features.
That are the complains and rightfully so.
UWP is something positive.
Thats the one thing you notice about people who support UWP they don't game on the PC they just support the XBOX brand.Can only do developer supported mods. DSFix wouldn't exist in Dark Souls UWP.
What backwards compatibility on PC lol? And can you prove to me that Windows 10 is going to be the "last" OS for 15 years? What happens if that changes? I don't have to worry about that now if people can make fixes for existing titles.
"Most people play new games." What an absolutely anti-consumer statement to make. Again, I don't have to worry about this shit with UWP.
You have literally 0 proof of any of this shit and it's all conjecture. Right now, UWP is absolutely an inferior way to package applications and the current roadmap does not show it getting any sort of parity with Win32. You're shitting on a large part of what makes PC gaming great with some of the weakest arguments I've ever seen. This is probably one of the most embarrassing posts I've seen defending UWP, good lord.
I'm honestly questioning if you even game on PC with some of the shit you say.
Thats the one thing you notice about people who support UWP they don't game on the PC they just support the XBOX brand.
PC gaming is freedom and option, UWP is the epitome of the opposite.
A lot of angry posts about UWP lol
Who's disrespecting you? Microsoft owns Windows and if you don't like it move to Linux, wtf is the fuss about.
I am more curious about what publishers think about UWP. I am willing to bet they'll start pushing it if it means more control of their IP. The walled garden has been very successful for Apple and Google with their apps you bet Microsoft is jumping on that same bandwagon. You'll see Windows becoming just another walled garden. It will happen and you won't stop it.
I don't give a shit about what publishers think lol, I'm a consumer. This is bad for me as a CONSUMER. Also lol if you think UWP gives people any more "control" over their IP. Again, what proof is there of that? What does that statement even mean in this context?
And yea I'd love to go to Linux but it's super disingenuous to just wave off people's complaints by saying "hurr durr go somewhere else"
It's not going to happen overnight, but Win32 is going away and there is nothing you can do about it. Windows 10 S already set this in motion, most people emailing and Wording on their laptops or whatever will just be ignorant towards the issue and won't get the free Win32 unlock - which is there to ensure MS looks like the good guys here. Then app devs will have to make UWP to reach everybody again. Games will probably take a while longer but it's happening anyway.
Who's disrespecting you? Microsoft owns Windows and if you don't like it move to Linux, wtf is the fuss about.
If publishers like UWP and decide that it gives them some protection, even if it's false protection, they'll start using it and may opt to use it exclusively. You better bet your ass that's what MS is hoping for.
But no one is forcing you to buy it on the windows store or am I missing something here? LolJez is such a shill. I'm going to check out frostpunk soon. Dig the aesthetic. But I'd rather boil my eyelids and eat them that buy it on the windows 10 store.
Hurr Durr seriously go somewhere else if you want freedom. I am not joking when say Windows will be a closed platform. And before you get even more pissy I am not advocating uwp, I just see the writing on the wall.
You should care what publishers think because it will give you insight as to where this is heading. You can continue to be pissed and have your head stuck in the sand or take a look around at today's landscape. If publishers like UWP and decide that it gives them some protection, even if it's false protection, they'll start using it and may opt to use it exclusively. You better bet your ass that's what MS is hoping for.
Still waiting on a single advantage UWP has for the PC customer
What a mature response.
All you've come into this thread to do is shit on people with serious concerns which is both sad and hilarious.
Well duh, the only store that sells uwp right now has extra protection for mods, that doesn't mean uwp can't.He was super quick to respond the first time, been waiting a little while for a follow up though.
But maybe i missed all those complaints about Sea of Thieves being not a Win32 application and that being the big issue.
I like uwp apps because uwp has a lower chance to negatively affect the whole PC system. The uwp version of iTunes, for example, is for that reason, far superior than the win32 version. And many are more than happy to replace the app with the store version.
I think it'll interesting to see the consensus on this site after mod support had roll out to uwp. The dislike of the platform will at that point be a philosophical one.
Hurr Durr seriously go somewhere else if you want freedom. I am not joking when say Windows will be a closed platform. And before you get even more pissy I am not advocating uwp, I just see the writing on the wall.
You should care what publishers think because it will give you insight as to where this is heading. You can continue to be pissed and have your head stuck in the sand or take a look around at today's landscape. If publishers like UWP and decide that it gives them some protection, even if it's false protection, they'll start using it and may opt to use it exclusively. You better bet your ass that's what MS is hoping for.
UWP was not made to prevent cheating lol.UWP is still not feature parity with Win32 and by design will never be (it also never preventing the one thing it was supposed to, cheating)
It will always be inferior. I don't give a shit about an app being able to seamlessly switch monitors lmao
Are you being serious? You really don't know anything about what UWP actually is if you can't think of a single advantage it brings.Still waiting on a single advantage UWP has for the PC customer