If that's your only take away from my post which you edited out the rest, then you too, missed my point. Congrats!I wish public education would put more effort into teaching probability theory.
This post exemplifies why we need more education on nutrition, because otherwise such a comment wouldn't be made with an understanding of how fiber plays a significant role (which is in fruit - not fruit juices) in decreasing the absorption rate of sugar.Veganism is linked to lower bone density and higher risk of fractures....
Literally everything any diet, food, drink, lifestyle will be linked to some risk. Its about being sensible and making balanced choices.
Ultimately if fruit juice raises your cancer risk then so does fruit. And higher sugar vegetables. Eating an orange means ingesting the same amount of sugar as drinking one squeezed.
This post exemplifies why we need more education on nutrition, because otherwise such a comment wouldn't be made with an understanding of how fiber plays a significant role (which is in fruit - not fruit juices) in decreasing the absorption rate of sugar.
....except for the fact that juice (especially pasteurized juice which in the process of heating out the contaminants also destroys all of the vitamins/minerals within) doesn't contain anywhere near the same quantity of those essentials as a piece of fruit of would. Not to mention the satiation factors of fiber which means you will be fuller eating two apples rather than ingesting the juice from two. Not to mention also, pending on if the person is living a largely lethargic lifestyle, the delayed effect fiber has on the absorption of sugar means that you give your body the chance to burn it off in the TCA cycle rather than have it flow in your bloodstream and feed tumorous cells.Yes - it decreases the absorption rate which is important for diabetics and why they are told to eat whole fruit rather than drink juice or at worst drink fresh juice with pulp if they absolutely have to - but it does not decrease the total amount of sugar absorbed.
So if you drink juice of one orange or eat an orange you get the same amount of sugar regardless. Yes it is absorbed at different rates. But the link does not necessarily have anything to do with the blood sugar response.
Secondly my point still stands - if drinking juice raises your risk of cancer then so does eating fruit. It may be that studies will show that one raises the risk more - but the risk will still be raised by any sugar consumption. Juice is not a magic thing. Its simply sugar, water, vitamins, minerals and natural compounds...that's it. The same things you get in fruit and veg.
Do you live in Pittsburgh
This is juice, not fruit
It's the sugar, everything with sugar is killing you. There's no spinning with calories in calories out bullshit. Stop consuming sugar and you'll feel way better.
....except for the fact that juice (especially pasteurized juice which in the process of heating out the contaminants also destroys all of the vitamins/minerals within) doesn't contain anywhere near the same quantity of those essentials as a piece of fruit of would. Not to mention the satiation factors of fiber which means you will be fuller eating two apples rather than ingesting the juice from two. Not to mention also, pending on if the person is living a largely lethargic lifestyle, the delayed effect fiber has on the absorption of sugar means that you give your body the chance to burn it off in the TCA cycle rather than have it flow in your bloodstream and feed tumorous cells.
So yeah, I also stand by my point I don't follow your conclusion eating fruit causes you to be at risk of developing cancer.
There is a baseline risk of getting a number of different cancers, this risk varies by a number of factors (for example age).
How many oranges you need to squeeze to get a glass of juice? That's your answer.Firstly you are arguing about a link between unhealthy lifestyles, high blood sugar and implicit weight gain as being a cancer risk - which we know it is.
But this particular study says there is a direct link between consumption of sugary drinks and cancer. Irrespective of weight.
What that means is that the issue is sugar. And whilst eating fruit is better for you that drinking juice IF (and its a big IF) there is a link between natural sugars and cancer then it won't matter whether you eat or drink the fruit (other than as you say you likely consume less by eating).
My point was simply that in moderation juice is fine. As is fruit. As is everything. In moderation and within a lifestyle balance.
How many oranges you need to squeeze to get a glass of juice? That's your answer.
Assuming "100% fruit juice" is made with actual fruit, then yes, it's fruit. When you turn fruit into juice, it doesn't somehow add new cancer-causing compounds. If it's the sugar, the sugar is in fruit as well -- it's just easier to get more of the sugar, by volume, in juice form.
No, you are doing a false equivalence. One orange != 1 glass of juice. 8oz requires to squeeze about 5 oranges, if the moderate dosage is of 2 orange a day, then with just one glass you are over the range.
Death tends to prevent the development of cancer in 99% of the cases.
so too much sugar at once is the problemAssuming "100% fruit juice" is made with actual fruit, then yes, it's fruit. When you turn fruit into juice, it doesn't somehow add new cancer-causing compounds. If it's the sugar, the sugar is in fruit as well -- it's just easier to get more of the sugar, by volume, in juice form.
I think that's generally been the theory but it's still the subject of active research.
TouchĆ© my friend I didn't even put that togetherš