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excelsiorlef

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At 10pm last Thursday night, Jonny Gould took to the stage in the ballroom at London's Dorchester Hotel. "Welcome to the most un-PC event of the year," he roared.

The sports broadcaster was there to host a charity auction — the centrepiece of a secretive annual event, the Presidents Club Charity Dinner. The gathering's official purpose is to raise money for worthy causes such as Great Ormond Street Hospital, the world-renowned children's hospital in London's Bloomsbury district. Auction items included lunch with Boris Johnson, the British foreign secretary, and afternoon tea with Bank of England governor Mark Carney.

But this is a charity fundraiser like no other. It is for men only. A black tie evening, Thursday's event was attended by 360 figures from British business, politics and finance and the entertainment included 130 specially hired hostesses. All of the women were told to wear skimpy black outfits with matching underwear and high heels. At an after-party many hostesses — some of them students earning extra cash — were groped, sexually harassed and propositioned.

The event has been a mainstay of London's social calendar for 33 years, yet the activities have remained largely unreported — unusual, perhaps, for a fundraiser of its scale. The questions raised about the event have been thrown into sharp relief by the current business climate, when bastions of sexual harassment and the institutionalised objectification of women are being torn down.

The Financial Times last week sent two people undercover to work as hostesses on the night. Reporters also gained access to the dining hall and surrounding bars. Over the course of six hours, many of the hostesses were subjected to groping, lewd comments and repeated requests to join diners in bedrooms elsewhere in the Dorchester. Hostesses reported men repeatedly putting hands up their skirts; one said an attendee had exposed his penis to her during the evening.
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But the auction offers a hint of the evening's seedier side. Lots included a night at Soho's Windmill strip club and a course of plastic surgery with the invitation to: "Add spice to your wife." The accompanying brochure included a full-page warning that no attendees or staff should be sexually harassed. The glossy auction catalogue distributed to attendees during the evening included multiple images of Marilyn Monroe dressed in revealing, tight dresses.

The nature of the occasion was hinted at when the hostesses were hired. The task of finding women for the dinner is entrusted to Caroline Dandridge, founder of Artista, an agency specialising in hosts and hostesses for what it claims to be some of the "UK's most prestigious occasions". At their initial interviews, women were warned by Ms Dandridge that the men in attendance might be "annoying" or try to get the hostesses "pissed". One hostess was advised to lie to her boyfriend about the fact it was a male-only event. "Tell him it's a charity dinner," she was told. "It's a Marmite job. Some girls love it, and for other girls it's the worst job of their life and they will never do it again . . . You just have to put up with the annoying men and if you can do that it's fine," Ms Dandridge told the hostess.

Two days before the event, Ms Dandridge told prospective hostesses by email that their phones would be "safely locked away" for the evening and that boyfriends and girlfriends were not welcome at the venue. The uniform requirements also became more detailed: all hostesses should bring "BLACK sexy shoes", black underwear, and do their hair and make-up as they would to go to a "smart sexy place". Dresses and belts would be supplied on the day. For those who met the three specific selection criteria ("tall, thin and pretty") a job paying £150, plus £25 for a taxi home, began at 4pm.

The backgrounds of the dozen or more hostesses met by reporters were varied: many were students, hoping to launch careers as lawyers or marketing executives; others juggled part-time jobs as actresses, dancers or models and did occasional hostessing work to make ends meet. Upon arrival at the Dorchester, the first task given to the hostesses was to sign a five-page non-disclosure agreement about the event. Hostesses were not given a chance to read its contents, or take a copy with them after signing.

At first, hostesses were assembled in the Dorchester's Orchard Room, where a team of hair and make-up artists prepped women for the evening ahead. During the pre-event preparations, some of the women new to hostess work sought advice from those with more experience. The feedback was mixed. A number of the hostesses seemed excited about the evening ahead. It was a fun night, they said, especially as — unlike most hostessing assignments — you could drink on the job. One experienced hostess acknowledged that a portion of the men were likely to be "arseholes", but said others were "hilarious". "It really depends on the luck of the draw," she added. Others were more apprehensive. One woman who had last worked at the event five years ago sighed to herself: "I can't believe I'm here again."

Towards 7pm, during a staff buffet dinner, Ms Dandridge entered wearing a smart black suit and gave a briefing; she said if any of the men became "too annoying", the hostesses should contact her. Hostess uniforms were distributed — short tight black dresses, black high heels and a thick black belt resembling a corset. Once dressed, the hostesses were offered a glass of white wine during the final countdown to their entrance into the ballroom.

As the 8pm start time approached, all of the hostesses were told to form two lines in height order, tallest women first, ready to parade across the stage as music began to boom across the venue: "Power", by British girl band Little Mix. Entering in twos from opposite sides on to a stage positioned at the front of the ballroom, hostesses presented themselves to the men before walking towards their allocated tables alongside dinner guests. This continued until all 130 women were spread across the room.

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A number of men stood with the hostesses while waiting for smoked salmon starters to arrive. Others remained seated and yet insisted on holding the hands of their hostesses. It was unclear why men, seated at their tables with hostesses standing close by, felt the need to hold the hands of the women, but numerous hostesses discussed instances of it through the night. For some, this was a prelude to pulling the women into their laps.

Meanwhile champagne, whisky and vodka were served. On stage, entertainers came and went. It was soon after a troupe of burlesque dancers — dressed like furry-hatted Coldstream Guards, but with star-shaped stickers hiding nipples — that one 19-year-old hostess, recounted a conversation with a guest nearing his seventies: who had asked her, directly, whether she was a prostitute. She was not. "I've never done this before, and I'm never doing it again," she said later. "It's f***ing scary."

According to the accounts of multiple women working that night, groping and similar abuse was seen across many of the tables in the room. Another woman, 28, with experience of hostess work, observing the braying men around her said this was significantly different to previous black tie jobs. At other events, men occasionally would try to flirt with her, she said, but she had never felt uncomfortable or, indeed, frightened. She reported being repeatedly fondled on her bottom, hips, stomach and legs. One guest lunged at her to kiss her. Another invited her upstairs to his room. Meanwhile, Artista had an enforcement team, made up of suited women and men, who would tour the ballroom, prodding less active hostesses to interact with dinner guests.

Outside the women's toilets a monitoring system was in place: women who spent too long were called out and led back to the ballroom. A security guard at the door was on hand, keeping time.

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According to the 28-year-old hostess, while men danced and drank with a set of women on one side of the room, a line of younger women were left seated on a banquette at the back of the room, seemingly dazed. "They looked shocked and frightened, exhausted by what had happened," she said.


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By midnight, one society figure who the FT has not yet been able to contact was confronting at least one hostess directly. "You look far too sober," he told her. Filling her glass with champagne, he grabbed her by the waist, pulled her in against his stomach and declared: "I want you to down that glass, rip off your knickers and dance on that table."

https://www.ft.com/content/075d679e-0033-11e8-9650-9c0ad2d7c5b5


More reading: https://www.ft.com/content/c6c8d488-0060-11e8-9650-9c0ad2d7c5b5

But as that unusual legal note on harassment suggests, there appears to be a seamier side to a Presidents Club night out. "A boob job for the missus — ten grand to get me started," bellowed broadcaster Jonny Gould, the man in charge of whipping up the crowd into a bidding frenzy. His introduction to lot 8 was typical — a course of plastic surgery donated by 111 Harley Street clinic, whose founder, Dr Yannis Alexandrides, was on the guest list.

"Close your eyes and you're sleeping with the most beautiful woman in the world," Mr Gould added, before bringing one of the hostesses hired by agency Artista up on to the stage as a living advertisement and watching as she pointed out the various parts of her anatomy that had been "done" at the clinic.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-and-sexually-harassed-at-london-charity-gala

Miller said: "British business need to take a long hard look at itself. How seriously is business taking equality at work if they are still using men only events for entertainment?

"If business leaders are simply paying lip service to equality issues then perhaps it's time the government gives the Equality Act some real teeth?"

Labour MP Jess Phillips, a leading campaigner in efforts to tackle a culture of sexism and harassment, said: "This is horrendous example of rich men acting with disgusting entitlement.

"It cannot just be me calling it out, let's hear from the establishment, the Conservatives, business, that this is disgusting and not in their name."

The deputy leader of the Liberal Democrats, Jo Swinson, said the report was "simply stomach-churning".

She said: "More than 300 rich businessmen were perfectly happy to attend such an event, which shows the rotten, sexist culture still alive and kicking in parts of the business community. Time's up on this crap."

Sophie Walker, leader of the Women's Equality party said: "Men from across political, business, and entertainment worlds are implicated in this grotesque circus of sleazy rich men pawing at young women and buying crude 'lots' in the name of charity.

"Those who are worried that women's confrontation of sexual harassment has gone too far and turned into a 'witch hunt', look no further."

Conservative MP Anna Soubry said: "I should imagine the charities will be appalled that their good name has been sullied in this way.

"It was never acceptable but it's 2018 for goodness sake and I thought – hoped – we'd moved on to being a more civilised decent society. Well we need to."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ad-groping-harassment/?utm_term=.51d486ac3717

Each year, for 33 years, "The President's Club Charitable Trust" has organized a fundraising dinner at London's exclusive Dorchester Hotel to benefit "worthy children's causes."

The attendees last Thursday, as in the past, were an elite from Britain's business, finance, fashion, entertainment and political establishment, an "esteemed" group if ever there was one, as the club's website says — esteemed to the man because it was, indeed, a "men only" event.

Men only, except for 130 "hostesses" hired to cater to the needs of the roughly 360 attendees.

Among the hostesses this year, however, were two who were not men, a female journalist from the Financial Times named Madison Marriage and a woman working with her who went undercover to report on the event. They applied for hostess jobs and got them.
 

Dan Thunder

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Was reading that earlier and what an awful event it sounds like. Sadly it's all too common for male only events to focus around machismo and 'alpha male' behaviour, which generally just means entitlement and male privilege.

Let's be honest though, despite the column inches today it'll be exactly the same next year.

As Amalthea touched on, anything that stops people acting with any kind of decorum around others is still decried as 'political correctness gone made'.
 

SmokingBun

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You know, you watch stuff like this in the movies and there's a fat mob boss or something and you think, "LoL, so unrealistic and ridiculous."
But it seems like that stuff is less gross and exaggerated than the real stuff. Shameful.

Whenever I see stories like this, I ask myself, "Would my mother disapprove?"
Yes, yes she would. That's a question these so called "men" should ask themselves
 

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Hahaha, I saw my local MP (Nadhim Zahawi) was at this but left early, it was all over the local facebook page people taking shots at him.

Fucking scummy as hell that this happens in 2018.
 
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excelsiorlef

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The parade of denials that anyone knew it was happening at the end of the main article btw is absolutely hilarious.
 

Lidl

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You know, you watch stuff like this in the movies and there's a fat mob boss or something and you think, "LoL, so unrealistic and ridiculous."
But it seems like that stuff is less gross and exaggerated than the real stuff. Shameful.

Whenever I see stories like this, I ask myself, "Would my mother disapprove?"
Yes, yes she would. That's a question these so called "men" should ask themselves
Sadly not every mother would disapprove.

I'm glad the FT revealed this and not some general news source. Maybe this will help to bring about change in those circles.
 

Donos

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Should give out pins with "SkirtsUp!"

Like another poster said, you see this in movies and think if something like this could be real...
 

liquidtmd

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Upon arrival at the Dorchester, the first task given to the hostesses was to sign a five-page non-disclosure agreement about the event. Hostesses were not given a chance to read its contents, or take a copy with them after signing.

This pisses me off more than anything.

Look - there will always be men looking for these nights. There will often be women actually ok and open to earning money this way. If the women go into it fully aware of the expectation, risks and still agree - then fine ultimately, if disappointing.

But exposing women not comfortable and limiting them in ways like not even showing them what they have signed upto - fuck that shit.

I have more respect for strip bars than classy 'events' like this. At least they call a spade a spade and equally your average low rent strip bar probably has more protections in place for women than the charade of these
 
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SmokingBun

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The task of finding women for the dinner is entrusted to Caroline Dandridge, founder of Artista, an agency specialising in hosts and hostesses for what it claims to be some of the "UK's most prestigious occasions".

Working against your gender's best interests huh? They should have denied the request
It's like a slave auction organized by black folks

This pisses me off more than anything.

Look - there will always be men looking for these nights. There will often be women actually ok and open to earning money this way. If the women go into it fully aware of the expectation, risks and still agree - then fine ultimately, if disappointing.

But exposing women not comfortable and limiting them in ways like not even showing them what they have signed upto - fuck that shit.

I have more respect for strip bars than classy 'events' like this. At least they call a spade a spade

Kinda wish they wouldn't beat around they bush right?
Hell I would have designate girls based on what their role is. The girls who want the groping experience can dress in blue, the girls who just want to serve drinks can be in white, the girls willing to go into a bathroom/bedroom for a private moment can wear black.

There! Have your sleaze but have it out in the open and make it official.
Some guy steps beyond these boundaries, he gets the grand prize of getting kicked out
 

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the systemic nature of the harassment is quite something

For a piece of corporate literature accompanying a black-tie charity event, it was an unusual waiver. "The Presidents Club shall accept no responsibility and shall not be held liable for any actions of its members, staff or event attendees that amount to harassment."

Upon arrival at the Dorchester, the first task given to the hostesses was to sign a five-page non-disclosure agreement about the event. Hostesses were not given a chance to read its contents, or take a copy with them after signing.
 

nelsonroyale

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Out of the goodness of their bleeding hearts! This is a charity event of the 'piss down' variety.

Oh, that wanker Philip Green was there? He needs to be put in a cage at least.
 

liquidtmd

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There! Have your sleaze but have it out in the open and make it official.
Some guy steps beyond these boundaries, he gets the grand prize of getting kicked out

That's why it's a crime that the NDA's, which the girls don't even get to read, is a sin as it somehow implies any behaviour is allowed even ones that step into abuse.

I wasn't saying either strip bars or this are 'ok'. Just at least if you're going to have hostesses whose primary function is to be the T&A, don't maskerade and say it's anything other than a strip bar (where people automatically have their expectations put in check and again, strip bars tend to have security that has full instructions of what to do with dickheads who step out and threaten the girls)
 

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This is revolting. I recently dated someone who fell into the hostess/booth babe umbrella, and her stories exactly paralleled this. Yes, we all know that sex sells. But whenever sex is part and parcel of the sale in question, even if it's simply charity or (as with my ex) providing information about products, some men behave in a disgusting fashion.

I agree with the above poster: I've never been to a strip club and legitimately have no interest in ever going, but at least the social norms at such places are clearly established. There's no good, legitimate reason to hire women solely for T&A purposes at a charity event or for anything else. Yes, anyone with common sense probably "knew what was going to happen," but that absolutely doesn't excuse it. The fact that such behavior is commonplace makes it even worse...

This is a 33 year tradition? Burn it all down.
 

Zellia

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The most horrible thing about all of this is how completely unsurprised I am at it. Now that it's exposed though, time to put it to bed.
 

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Yeah I posted this in the UK politics thread yesterday as a few mps went. Lol at David Walliams saying he didn't see anything going on
 
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Working against your gender's best interests huh? They should have denied the request
It's like a slave auction organized by black folks



Kinda wish they wouldn't beat around they bush right?
Hell I would have designate girls based on what their role is. The girls who want the groping experience can dress in blue, the girls who just want to serve drinks can be in white, the girls willing to go into a bathroom/bedroom for a private moment can wear black.

There! Have your sleaze but have it out in the open and make it official.
Some guy steps beyond these boundaries, he gets the grand prize of getting kicked out
Funny you should mention this as it happened at a German event back in 2007;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13454160

"One of the biggest insurance companies in the world held a party for salesmen where they were rewarded with the services of prostitutes."

"Munich Re is the world's biggest re-insurer - in other words, the company acts as an insurance company for other insurance companies."

"A German business newspaper said the prostitutes had worn colour-coded arm-bands designating their availability, and the women had their arms stamped after each service rendered."

Sickening behaviour at a supposed professional event, and we can see not much has changed since apparently.
 

Cronen

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BBC are now reporting that the Presidents Club will close following the allegations.
 

Jeronimo

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I thought this was about men willingly attending an exclusive men-only event to be groped by other men.

Instead it's much worse, I've seen better behavior in strip clubs.
 

mutantmagnet

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Basically the dam is breaking. This is obviously something that has gone on for awhile. It will be interesting to see how quickly this toxic environment changes.

I wonder if they'll change tactics by disclosing in advance employees would be subjected to this behavior.
 

Rayne

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This pisses me off more than anything.

Look - there will always be men looking for these nights. There will often be women actually ok and open to earning money this way. If the women go into it fully aware of the expectation, risks and still agree - then fine ultimately, if disappointing.

But exposing women not comfortable and limiting them in ways like not even showing them what they have signed upto - fuck that shit.

I have more respect for strip bars than classy 'events' like this. At least they call a spade a spade and equally your average low rent strip bar probably has more protections in place for women than the charade of these

Yeah if it was on the up and up then it's kind of eehhh but everyone's adults and that's their business.

But this kind of pulling the rug under people's legs shit? Nah.
 
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You know, you watch stuff like this in the movies and there's a fat mob boss or something and you think, "LoL, so unrealistic and ridiculous."
But it seems like that stuff is less gross and exaggerated than the real stuff. Shameful.

Whenever I see stories like this, I ask myself, "Would my mother disapprove?"
Yes, yes she would. That's a question these so called "men" should ask themselves

These men would molest their own mother.
 

Tsuyu

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These men do not believe they have to play by the same moral conduct as everywhere else. They think with their wealth and power, it's completely acceptable to act in these manner.