1. ggx2ac

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    More from the Financial Times link: https://www.ft.com/content/25f9a068-c898-11e8-ba8f-ee390057b8c9?list=intlhomepage

    Rumours:
    eSports
    Could be similar to PS4:
     
  2. Lowrys

    Lowrys
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    Hopefully it'll have a much better CPU.
     
  3. z0m3le

    z0m3le
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    Yep day after Microsoft's next gen cloud platform is announced for streaming games, we are going to see these platforms next E3.
    AMD platform, single pool of Memory and likely the same API.
     
  4. Putty

    Putty
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    Fundamental in that it'l have a cpu, gpu and memory? Sure.
     
  5. erlim

    erlim
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    I am not enthused by what Sony has been doing in the marketplace from the middle of this generation on, and the last time they acted so arrogant and launched a system, it was pretty rough. I can’t imagine their current strong anti-consumer philosophy is going to allow for a truly must-own piece of hardware for next-gen. But I can’t say I’m surprised they are planning bringing new hardware to the market.
     
  6. Heckler456

    Heckler456
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    Anti-consumer philosophy in what way?
     
  7. Redfox088

    Redfox088
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    Let’s go!!!!
     
  8. Redfox088

    Redfox088
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    My man, ima need you to elaborate.
     
  9. I can't wait to hear Mark Cerny's sweet heavenly voice describing the tech.
     
  10. Pein

    Pein
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    Whatchu talking about?
     
  11. Crayon

    Crayon
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    It's bait, guys.
     
  12. Jawbreaker

    Jawbreaker
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    What are you on about?
     
  13. gundamkyoukai

    gundamkyoukai
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    Can't wait to see what they up to .
    Being just like PS4 tech wise is great other than crap cpu .
     
  14. erlim

    erlim
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    Staunch anti-crossplay philosophy until overwhelming media pressure, horrible policy on BC and inciteful and tone deaf responses to genuine consumer demand, horrid infrastructure, customer service, and design for the PlayStation store and online purchases in general, lack of 4K Blu-ray on even high-end releases on the system, etc, etc.
     
  15. Vishmarx

    Vishmarx
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    Day 1 if it has full BC.
     
  16. II JumPeR I

    II JumPeR I
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    He is probably talking about some of the terrible marketing deals and 1 year timed exclusive games garbage. Which is something i full agree with.
     
  17. Kirblar

    Kirblar
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    It's gonna be the PS4 Pro Pro and that should be a-ok with everyone.
     
  18. gundamkyoukai

    gundamkyoukai
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    Half of that is not anti-consumer unless anti-consumer means i don't like what they doing lol.
     
  19. wapplew

    wapplew
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    Not me.
     
  20. This arrogant meme is tiring and mostly baseles outside of random things that affect most companies.
     
  21. Heckler456

    Heckler456
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    That's a whole lot of hyperbole to attempt to make a couple of big nothing situations sound like the worst thing in the world.

    How is not offering 4K blu ray anti-consumer? Their infrastructure is hardly "horrid". "Inciteful and tone deaf responses to genuine consumer demand"? What does that even mean? And you can't dredge up something as an example of anti-consumerism, and them wave away the fact that they're currently working to change that. Not to mention that the media pressure was hardly overwhelming. More like whelming.

    How is that anti-consumer? Do you understand that Sony isn't responsible for every consumer on the market? In fact, you could say those marketing deals are pro-consumer, as long as you're a consumer of Sony products.
     
  22. Renna Hazel

    Renna Hazel
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    The term anti-consumer is used way too much around here.
     
  23. Retroarnold

    Retroarnold
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    We knew the PS5 was a cert. I'm still saying 2020, but it's exciting to get to a stage where the rumors are hitting. Hoping for full BC with PS4 software.

    Some of those are just pure business choices and others, such as the design of the Playsation store, are personal preference. None however would be classed as anti-consumer in any way.
     
  24. Noppie

    Noppie
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    I am very shook by this. Shook.
     
  25. Pein

    Pein
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    Microsoft does the same thing. It’s been a thing for a long ass time.

    It’s business, they want people to buy that game whatever it maybe on their system.
     
  26. xxracerxx

    xxracerxx
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    Era has created a monopoly on using the term.
     
  27. Joco

    Joco
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    I really hope the PS5 is just a more powerful PS4.

    Anything more on this "streaming tablet"? First I've heard of it.
     
  28. Knowing his post history, probably the latter.

    Not surprising that PS5 will be x86 based, but the news about eSports does feel interesting. They aren’t really active on that field, correct me if I’m wrong
     
  29. It was always going to be an iteration going forward. There is no way they can keep doing generational leaps and keep the price down.

    I am happy that architecturally wise it is going to be similar to PS4 as that will enable 'easy' backwards compatibility and true 4K30 if not 60fps.
     
  30. erlim

    erlim
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    I would not call Sony’s attitude to consumers wanting BC or crossplay to be genuinely thoughtful, well reasoned, or fair in light of what Microsoft is doing.
     
  31. Animagne

    Animagne
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    BC is good on Xbox because their engineers are competent and they lost at the start of this generation badly, so they put all their efforts in somewhat catching up. I don't think it would have been this generous otherwise. Nintendo is still worse than Sony on most of these issues.
     
  32. pixelation

    pixelation
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    lol anti-consumer you say?... i'll bite, how?
     
  33. everyer

    everyer
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    As a ps4 player..I feel very satisfied this gen.

    What you said indicates you are never a ps4 player. At least from all the words "anti-consumer, arrogant..."

    Why hating Sony so much? Because you don't own the console, and all the benefits are hurting you? Maybe. Or because you don't want see how Sony changes because you wish it keeps being "anti-consumer, arrogant"?
     
  34. Khaos Prime

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    BC here we come.
     
  35. Microsoft hasn't even sold half the consoles so crossplay means nothing to Sony. I agree about bc Sony is piss poor.
     
  36. xxracerxx

    xxracerxx
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    MS had to do something to turn the ship around after the start of this generation, that is why they poured a lot into BC. I would expect the PS5 to have at the very least PS4 BC, and possibly PS1 and 2.
     
  37. Qvoth

    Qvoth
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    really don't care about cloud game streaming shit, hope sony doesn't spend too many resources on that
     
  38. erlim

    erlim
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    Not being able to carry over digital purchases or use an accumulated software library from 1995 onwards is pretty anti consumer if you ask me. Having your personal purchases and account disabled in Fortnight for any amount of time seems pretty anti consumer. Return policy and customer service compared to direct competitors is not really a business decision.
     
  39. You can’t be serious.
     
  40. Yes, BC is terrible right now - however that will change with GaaS and digital purchases carrying forward to PS5 now.

    They’ve already caved in on crossplay. What more do you want?
     
  41. Kasey

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    Getting into esports is interesting but doubtful considering their past failures and single player specialization across first party.

    That is unless they plan to simply moneyhat games like Street Fighter again and go for marketing rights on every competitive game they can get.
     
  42. Theswweet

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    The hardware just isn't out there to make a siginificant leap from PS4 Pro/XB1X GPU performance for the same price. If the rumors about Navi targeting Vega 64 performance on a $250 chip has any merit than maybe we might see an SoC with a Ryzen based CPU with that GPU (or the Vega 56 equivalent silicon), but the most RAM I see this time around is 16GB.

    I don't think it's unreasonable to say that the biggest jump in power next gen will be with the CPU. We'll probably be able to hit native 4K on games that are currently checkerboard rendered, but anything beyond that is wishful thinking. We really have hit diminishing returns.
     
  43. jsnepo

    jsnepo
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    It's a mistake not to call it Playstation 5.
     
  44. Blue

    Blue
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    Well this thread got rather badly derailed already. :(

    The confirmation of new hardware was expected, but it is exciting that they are beginning to talk about it.
     
  45. Ingueferroque

    Ingueferroque
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    Of course they are, it will be revealed next E3 and launched next holiday.

    I always believed.
     
  46. nbnt

    nbnt
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    Really? Always thought they'd stop after the PS4.
     
  47. Toriko

    Toriko
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    He/She is a fanboy/console warrior. No point in asking
     
  48. Jack Orion

    Jack Orion
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    He’s literally just a system warrior, why even engage?
     
  49. gundamkyoukai

    gundamkyoukai
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    Well they got GTS but that not big .
    Still they might make a big push with people they hired for GG .
     
  50. henhowc

    henhowc
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    Nothing burger. Dumb if they announce this early imo. PS4 has barely dipped. 2020 release at the earliest.