It's sad but the switch being a success and getting good game really messes with a lot of gamers. I think the game looks good. I want to see more gameplay which we will. But nothing about it looks awful.
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Game informer: first Marvel Ultimate alliance 3 footage
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Looks like a PS2 game!
Looks like a mobile game!
Looks rough!
Yikes!
I hope it's early!
Is this really full price?
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Looks like a PS2 game!
Looks like a mobile game!
Looks rough!
Yikes!
I hope it's early!
Is this really full price?
Remember - Pre-Release footage is always indicative of the final product. Switch games will always look bad in comparison to games on more powerful hardware, the fact that it's a handheld is meaningless! Always specify if you don't care about using handheld mode and consistently mention that "You consider it a console" in order to make your argument as unassailable as possible! Never forget that Switch games look and run worse than PS3/360 games, because of course they do!
Pro-tip: This kind of trolling will forever be allowed to continually derail every Switch game thread ever, so keep it up!
Next Time - Defending Switch Games That Look Underwhelming For Dummies
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Wow! That Marc Sumerak!? So cool!
He's great at writing ensembles IMO or aka I like his Power Pack work :p
I hope Power Pack appears :)
And Gwenpool
How the game came to be and why it’s a permanent Nintendo exclusive
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The gameinformer cover article has the full story but
https://www.resetera.com/threads/ga...l-ultimate-alliance-3-the-black-order.115619/
Game wouldn't exist without Nintendo and they brought in team ninja
Yep it bodes we'll for a variety of pulls character wise
Not really understanding the complaints about the gameplay or visuals? Did any of y'all actually play the first two Ultimate Alliance or X-Men Legends games? This looks & plays exactly like they did. These games have always been mostly button-mashing, musou-esque, dungeon brawlers with the added cool factor of controlling the Marvel roster & accessing their ablities, doing combo attacks, dream team-ups, etc.
I mean, graphically it's pretty much the old games up rezzed and stylized, which is enough for me. Also, it looks like it runs amazingly well on the switch even with tons of effects and enemies on screen, that's the most important part visually to me.
That's not why people are saying it looks bad. It's pretty ugly. I'm sure there are some weird anti-switch people but it's gotta be a small group. This is a bland looking title and the fights mush together with weak effects.
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This actually looks much better than i thought it did during the previous two Nintendo Direct appearances. After EndGame i think I'm onboard for something Marvel and fun!
Did they say only 4 skills per character? I know there a a lot of characters but only the same 4 skills is a bummer. Or can you only equip 4 at a time?
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Seems to be four in total. However unlike previous games the extreme attack does not take up one of the four slots. Also you only start with one unlocked and unlock an additional one every ten levels. Also they are upgradable(and possibly have their own skill tree)
Put me in the camp that thinks this looks great. I prefer the cartoony, vibrant art style.
One thing is for sure, they are gonna LOOOVE playing this at E3 during treehouse segments.
One thing is for sure, they are gonna LOOOVE playing this at E3 during treehouse segments.
First Marvel Ultimate Alliance, 3 Screenshots
the second and third one are from MUA2
Wow, this game has ISO-8. Must have been in development for quite a while, because afaik the ISO-8 idea has been all but dropped from newer Marvel games
Damn, imagine how cool this could have looked if it wasn't exclusive to switch. Graphics are pretty laughable. Gameplay doesn't...look that impressive either?
I really loved Ultimate Alliance 1 back in the day. One of the best superhero games ever.
I really loved Ultimate Alliance 1 back in the day. One of the best superhero games ever.
Finally got the watch the video and holly hell. I love the heroic camera. It does kind of change the gameplay from a top down arpg like Xmen legends and MUA and makes it a little more third person action. But being able to do both is great. The graphics dont' bother me at all, but I'm still playing MUA and MUA2. Even the HD remaster have garbage level character models but it's super fun and that's what matters.
*Looks above your post* Sort of. Nowhere near as bad as that, of course, but it is always funny when the folk who complain about port begging go on to port beg themselves
If the game reviews good, I might actually buy it. Haven't played any of the previous games, but an ARPG in Marvel universe sounds like fun times. After all these Marvel movies in the past decade, I've grown fond of the characters, so more Marvel doesn't sound like a bad thing at all.
There's port begging - and then there's scratching your head wondering why a game in a series historically heavily multiplatform is all the sudden exclusive to not only the weakest console on the market (by far), but the one with the lowest install base as well.
A Marvel game at that.
Looking at that gameplay footage..it definitely doesn't seem like UA3 is hitting on the huge potential that the series had in any way, shape or form. Looks pretty low budget.
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It's all still port begging, buddy. The game, from what we've been told, essentially wouldn't exist with Nintendo. You might as well question why the latest Spider-Man game on the PS4 isn't multiplatform, seeing as it'd have done several million more on the XB1 and the PC. It's basically the same situation
It has nothing to do with the system having weaker hardware or the lowest install base atm. Those are all just to justify port begging. Not everything has to be on the big powerful consoles. It's perfectly okay
I take it that you don't remember any of the previous games because none of them were lookers or big budget affairs for their respective systems
You're not fooling anyone with "Copyright 2016 Marvel".First Marvel Ultimate Alliance, 3 Screenshots
Trolls will be trolls I guess.
People are willing to dismiss a game simply because it lacks the photorealistic art-style of the previous entires.
First Marvel Ultimate Alliance, 3 Screenshots
The last two are from MUA2.
So I guess all the people back in 2014 wondering why Rise of the Tomb Raider was gonna be exclusive to the Xbox One were "port begging" as well.
First Marvel Ultimate Alliance, 3 Screenshots
What do you gain from being like this? Honest question.
1) Day one for me.
2) But...some of these abilities look almost directly lifted from the Marvel Future Fight/Marvel Strike Force mobile games.
3) I hope this captures some of the joy that Marvel Heroes did on the PC. RIP.
2) But...some of these abilities look almost directly lifted from the Marvel Future Fight/Marvel Strike Force mobile games.
3) I hope this captures some of the joy that Marvel Heroes did on the PC. RIP.
I think it's a 3D Brawler with RPG stats. It's nothing like Dynasty Warriors.
As with previous exclusive titles, it seems like Nintendo footed a bill no one else wanted to pay for. Stop playing dumb. I'm also pretty sure you had no problems with Spider-man being a PS4 exclusive. Try to hide it all you want, it's just port begging thinly disguised as "scratching your head" over whatever excuse you want to make.
It's looking better than both previous games comined. Take off those rose tinted glasses. I loved them, but this looks leagues ahead of MUA1 and MUA2.
They'll take whatever outrage they can manufacture, even if this, realistically, looks better than previous games.
3 looks better than the first couple games. The more colorful, cel shaded style works better for this than an attempt at a realistic one.
Game looks pretty damn good.
Art style is fantastic. Hyper saturated, cartoonish, like all of the other best representations of Marvel characters in video games. Nothing represents those characters as well as these styles do, IMO. Animations are phenomenal for the most part, for the cutscenes especially. I think a few characters don't look as good as they could (Thor, Nebula), but some of the others are bang-on. I especially love the Kree and Ronan. It's really good that the characters stick out from the environment (maybe lack of shadows helps this?), because it does seem as chaotic as they described earlier. Might be too chaotic, so I understand why they're taking different steps to try and up the clarity. The power effects look really good though, especially Cap's "super."
I'm not very familiar with musou games but I'm assuming people are saying that they look like that because there are a lot of enemies on screen? This is a step up from MUA1 and MUA2 which felt like heroes were struggling to put the beat down on like 4 opponents. This ratio of heroes to minions in combat seems much better and way more of a challenge on higher difficulties. I feel like this will play very different when you ratchet the difficulty up relative to 1 and 2. In 1 and 2 you just couldn't get hit or the second or third might take you out. This one might give you more lee way but wither you down slowly.
I assume most are also put off by how paper-like the enemies are but this is also probably because it's an easy difficulty. MUA1 at least could be cruel on higher difficulties and I imagine this game will require a lot more precision and dodge rolling on hard. I think more enemies + stagger system will force players to take up more strategic roles than in MUA1/2, where it was basically just hit whoever is closest to you, boss or not. This time you might need dedicated ad clear, dedicated stagger, DPS, etc.
Gameplay seems more complex than ever for the franchise although I would have preferred swappable specials like the previous games. But I'll gladly take more characters instead of that. Alliance leveling is a great idea that more games with many playable characters should steal.
With combination attacks (I forget their actual name) confirmed as returning, which were by far the coolest part of MUA2, I have little concern about the gameplay at this point. The only thing I think is kind of whatever is the damage boost when everyone does their super at once. I think that encourages everyone dumping at once than strategically varying those attacks IMO. Hopefully some buff/debuff supers make it in to make things more interesting.
Otherwise, I dont really follow many of the gameplay complaints, as they sound like they're wanting for a completely different genre of game entirely. I'll give you the lack of swappable specials, but that doesn't seem to be what the discussion is revolving around.
Art style is fantastic. Hyper saturated, cartoonish, like all of the other best representations of Marvel characters in video games. Nothing represents those characters as well as these styles do, IMO. Animations are phenomenal for the most part, for the cutscenes especially. I think a few characters don't look as good as they could (Thor, Nebula), but some of the others are bang-on. I especially love the Kree and Ronan. It's really good that the characters stick out from the environment (maybe lack of shadows helps this?), because it does seem as chaotic as they described earlier. Might be too chaotic, so I understand why they're taking different steps to try and up the clarity. The power effects look really good though, especially Cap's "super."
I'm not very familiar with musou games but I'm assuming people are saying that they look like that because there are a lot of enemies on screen? This is a step up from MUA1 and MUA2 which felt like heroes were struggling to put the beat down on like 4 opponents. This ratio of heroes to minions in combat seems much better and way more of a challenge on higher difficulties. I feel like this will play very different when you ratchet the difficulty up relative to 1 and 2. In 1 and 2 you just couldn't get hit or the second or third might take you out. This one might give you more lee way but wither you down slowly.
I assume most are also put off by how paper-like the enemies are but this is also probably because it's an easy difficulty. MUA1 at least could be cruel on higher difficulties and I imagine this game will require a lot more precision and dodge rolling on hard. I think more enemies + stagger system will force players to take up more strategic roles than in MUA1/2, where it was basically just hit whoever is closest to you, boss or not. This time you might need dedicated ad clear, dedicated stagger, DPS, etc.
Gameplay seems more complex than ever for the franchise although I would have preferred swappable specials like the previous games. But I'll gladly take more characters instead of that. Alliance leveling is a great idea that more games with many playable characters should steal.
With combination attacks (I forget their actual name) confirmed as returning, which were by far the coolest part of MUA2, I have little concern about the gameplay at this point. The only thing I think is kind of whatever is the damage boost when everyone does their super at once. I think that encourages everyone dumping at once than strategically varying those attacks IMO. Hopefully some buff/debuff supers make it in to make things more interesting.
Otherwise, I dont really follow many of the gameplay complaints, as they sound like they're wanting for a completely different genre of game entirely. I'll give you the lack of swappable specials, but that doesn't seem to be what the discussion is revolving around.
Rise of the Tomb Raider would've existed with or without Microsoft making it a timed exclusive but, that being said, I won't deny, had it been a timed exclusive for Sony, I'm willing to bet it wouldn't have gotten anywhere the same amount of backlash
This situation is more comparable to Spider-Man than it is to Rise of the Tomb Raider
For real. Insomniac Spider-Man didn't get port begged and ridiculed for it's look like this game is getting. Spider-Man games were multiplat for years, but I don't see anyone making the argument that Insomniac Spider-Man should be multiplat based on tradition. 6th gen Spider-Man 2 was a gem of a game despite being a movie tie-in game.